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Old 06-27-2011, 09:40 PM   #6281
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Old 06-27-2011, 09:41 PM   #6282
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Old 06-27-2011, 09:42 PM   #6283
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Y'know, these arguments were pretty irritating at first, but they've gone on for sooooooooooooooooooo long that it's actually kind of entertaining and funny to read through now.

Btw has there ever been a case of a film being released on home media with altered color correction ACCIDENTALLY?
It just seems odd for a Blu-ray to be mistakenly given altered colors, seeing as how long a process of mastering a film to Blu-ray is.

There have been replacements for glitches like on The Matrix films or Saving Private Ryan. But for films that had bad transfers like on Gladiator and Fifth Element, the studios have never stated that the transfers had technical issues, just that they were old(which is completely true).

I'm pretty sure that the FOTR transfer is not a mistake. Having a film mistakenly given a green tint is like Avatar accidentally mastered on Blu-ray in greyscale. Unfortunately for some, this is what it's intended look like. You can label it as a flawed master, but it's probably what Jackson wanted, and some of us actually prefer how it looks like now(I've always felt that the first LOTR film looked unaturally saturated and warm, personally. I actually recallibrated my tv because I thought something looked off)
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Old 06-27-2011, 09:43 PM   #6284
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Immature and uncalled for. Why even be here if you are gonna be like that?

Unbelievable and embarrassing.
I was under the impression that he was joking with me and being tongue-in-cheek. Did I misread that?

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Old 06-27-2011, 09:44 PM   #6285
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From the ZonaDVD comparison of the Spanish theatrical versus extended:

theatrical:


extended:


Yeah, I see it now... I was wrong all along...

Vastly improved.

W........T..........F?????????

This can't really be happening?... Can it?
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Old 06-27-2011, 09:44 PM   #6286
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Good to hear an official response, finally. Now everyone can go and buy the box set and enjoy the movies without getting the colorimeters out and measuring the RGB values of pixels, right?

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Old 06-27-2011, 09:46 PM   #6287
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Well here is the post that is going to make some people VERY happy

and others VERY unhappy

but here goes

Credit goes to Robert Harris over at HTF
http://www.hometheaterforum.com/foru...0#post_3826517



I hope this post puts some controversy to rest, but sadly I know it wont.
Hahaha. Is a robo response really all anyone is going to get? This is the same statement they issued before it was released. I wonder if Peter Jackson will comment.

Anyone, I just read the official High Def Digest review. Pretty much what I expected.
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Old 06-27-2011, 09:48 PM   #6288
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W........T..........F?????????

This can't really be happening?... Can it?
It is happening, and now it's been supposedly officially sanctioned by WB, so apparently your opinion doesn't matter anymore.
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Old 06-27-2011, 09:48 PM   #6289
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Good to hear an official response, finally. Now everyone can go and buy the box set and enjoy the movies without getting the colorimeters out and measuring the RGB values of pixels, right?
Listen,I will be measuring as many pixies as I feel like,elves on the other hand I will be weighing!

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Old 06-27-2011, 09:54 PM   #6290
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Posted in the UK thread but wanted to post here aswel as have been back and forth over the weeks reading both threads....

Lmao i have just watched my copy of FOTR EE. After reading these posts daily and thinking what would i make of it....

It looked fantastic Each time a scene came up i remembered seeing a screenshot of from these tint threads i smiled as it looked great.

Id easily give this a 4.0 /5 for video.

Comparing screenshots is one thing but when watching the film not one bit did i think, somthings wrong. Was awesome.

I watched on a 86" screen, epson tw5500 projector.

If this is the worse video of the three im in for a treat!
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Old 06-27-2011, 09:58 PM   #6291
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Has anybody had a chance to check out the pics I made and linked to in post# 6152?

I don't see how anyone could look at what I did to match the TE to the FE and think that was a deliberate artistic choice.

https://forum.blu-ray.com/blu-ray-mo...ml#post4890915

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Old 06-27-2011, 10:01 PM   #6292
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Hi all. To address all the messages I'm currently receiving: yes, I am trying to get a hold of the statement Mr. Harris received from Warner Home Video. So far, I'm still getting responses along the lines of "no official statement has been made," which is what I've heard for two weeks now. However, Warner has many departments, so it doesn't surprise me that some sources are still issuing outdated information. (Nor should that surprise anyone who's worked in a large company.)

I'll confirm things as soon as I can. Also, I'm not aware of a similar statement being issued before now, so please post a link to any such previous statement if it is simply an older statement being re-purposed by WHV. Thanks for your patience

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Old 06-27-2011, 10:01 PM   #6293
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Posted in the UK thread but wanted to post here aswel as have been back and forth over the weeks reading both threads....

Lmao i have just watched my copy of FOTR EE. After reading these posts daily and thinking what would i make of it....

It looked fantastic Each time a scene came up i remembered seeing a screenshot of from these tint threads i smiled as it looked great.

Id easily give this a 4.0 /5 for video.

Comparing screenshots is one thing but when watching the film not one bit did i think, somthings wrong. Was awesome.

I watched on a 86" screen, epson tw5500 projector.

If this is the worse video of the three im in for a treat!
How can we take your view of the fellowships picture quality seriously?,when you have actually seen it.

We would be far better basing our judgement on screenshots,internet videos and hysteria.
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Old 06-27-2011, 10:05 PM   #6294
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How can we take your view of the fellowships picture quality seriously?,when you have actually seen it.

We would be far better basing our judgement on screenshots,internet videos and hysteria.
I actually laughed reading this. I read it as serious till last bit.


One of the worse looking screenshots that had me worried is the one where pippin asks about second breakfasts as aragorn leads them through the wild.

Upon watching, just before this scene it is showing to be raining (never noticed before). The scene looked fine and the cyan push seemed to match the weather.

I really dont have any complaints worth writing.

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Old 06-27-2011, 10:06 PM   #6295
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Hi all. To address all the messages I'm currently receiving: yes, I am trying to get a hold of the statement Mr. Harris received from Warner Home Video. So far, I'm still getting responses along the lines of "no official statement has been made," which is what I've heard for two weeks now. However, Warner has many departments, so it doesn't surprise me that some sources are still issuing outdated information. (Nor should that surprise anyone who's worked in a large company.)

I'll confirm things as soon as I can. Also, I'm not aware of a similar statement being issued before now, so please post a link to any such previous statement if it is simply an older statement being re-purposed by WHV. Thanks for your patience
Thanks for being a true reporter and not giving up searching when another source makes a statement. We appreciate the effort you are putting into this matter, whether or not the final outcome will be agreeable with me.
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Old 06-27-2011, 10:06 PM   #6296
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My copy from Amazon arrived this afternoon (along with Sucker Punch and the steel book of Paul from Amazon UK). Nice end to a loooong day.
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Old 06-27-2011, 10:10 PM   #6297
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Good to hear an official response, finally. Now everyone can go and buy the box set and enjoy the movies without getting the colorimeters out and measuring the RGB values of pixels, right?
Please, once again, I understand that you and many others like you are happy enough with the transfer as it is (or as it appears to be according to the different screen caps and reviews, both good and bad), and you are perfectly entitled to this.

But this gross, mocking characterization of those of us who don't like it, be it Jackson-approved or not, leads nowhere and it's pretty uncalled for.

For whatever the reason, maybe because you have less trained eyes, or maybe simply because of a matter of taste, or a balance between your expectations and what you are getting, you don't see anything wrong with the transfer, maybe quite the opposite, it looks like a definitive improvement to you... but not to me and many others.

Picturing us like nitpickers who like to complain for the sake of it and watch films with colorimeters at hand is an unnecessary caricature, is offensive, and is unfair.

Can not we all limit to say "I like it", "I do not", and why?

(and please, when I say I may have better trained eyes is not any claim of superiority, I guess we will all agree that all of us are better than others in some departments, and worse than others in other departments; and believe me, when it comes to enjoying home cinema, it's more of a curse than a blessing, but, I insist once again, not because I keep looking for flaws, but because I perceive them easier than others, just like there will be others with much more accute senses than mine)

I have no problem with disagreements, even with extreme disagreements. But I do have problems when anybody mocks me instead of offering his contrary opinion, preferably supported with a reasonable, well-thought argument.

Is that ok? Did I made myself clear here?

Can we all get along from now on, without one side calling the other whiners, and the other side calling that side sold-outs?

Can we have an interesting exchange of opinions and, what's more, the arguments behind?


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Old 06-27-2011, 10:15 PM   #6298
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I posted a reply to Ken Brown's post with a quote and link to Digital Bits about sources.

My reply was posted and now seems to be gone. Did I violate anything or anyone?
Why don't you try again? Or direct us to a link within a webpage or something?
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Old 06-27-2011, 10:16 PM   #6299
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How can we take your view of the fellowships picture quality seriously?,when you have actually seen it.

We would be far better basing our judgement on screenshots,internet videos and hysteria.
Haha, you are true man of science
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Old 06-27-2011, 10:16 PM   #6300
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I will be getting mine when the store opens.
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