The Lord of the Rings: The Motion Picture Trilogy (Extended Edition) (2001-2003)

[Stinky-Dinkins]

Originally Posted by Clint Eastwood

So what was the final ruling of the green tint on this?

It's been proven to be there, the screenshots are accurate.
How much you do or don't notice it is completely down to your specific TV set and your own pair of eyes. It bothers some people, some people don't even notice it.
Peter Jackson never directly commented on it.

[Petra_Kalbrain]

Originally Posted by Clint Eastwood

So what was the final ruling of the green tint on this?

Originally Posted by Stinky-Dinkins

It's been proven to be there, the screenshots are accurate.
How much you do or don't notice it is completely down to your specific TV set and your own pair of eyes. It bothers some people, some people don't even notice it.
Peter Jackson never directly commented on it.

And, don't forget to list those people who DON'T HAVE the green tint at all!

It's not that I don't see it and it's there. My TV had absolutely no green tint to it without having touched the calibration before, during, or after. I have a window not 4 feet from my TV that I opened to make comparisons. The green of the trees and the blues of the skies outside matched the greens and blues of the FOTR to perfection.

The image was just a fraction of a pubic hair darker than I had previously experienced the film.

[Stinky-Dinkins]

Originally Posted by Petra_Kalbrain

And, don't forget to list those people who DON'T HAVE the green tint at all!

It's not that I don't see it and it's there. My TV had absolutely no green tint to it without having touched the calibration before, during, or after. I have a window not 4 feet from my TV that I opened to make comparisons. The green of the trees and the blues of the skies outside matched the greens and blues of the FOTR to perfection.

The image was just a fraction of a pubic hair darker than I had previously experienced the film.

It's on every disc. Every disc is identical, every disc has the same exact color timing.

Like I said, it's down to how you perceive it. Also like I said this has to do with your specific TV set and how your eyes perceive the image.

You don't have some magical disc that doesn't have the green bias. If you were to take a screen cap of Fellowship, it would be identical to all the rest. The green tint has been proven to exist time and time and time and time and time again, no one has ever produced a copy without it (because they're all identical.)

[frogmort]

Originally Posted by Stinky-Dinkins

It's on every disc. Every disc is identical, every disc has the same exact color timing.

Like I said, it's down to how you perceive it. Also like I said this has to do with your specific TV set and how your eyes perceive the image.

You don't have some magical disc that doesn't have the green bias. If you were to take a screen cap of Fellowship, it would be identical to all the rest. The green tint has been proven to exist time and time and time and time and time again, no one has ever produced a copy without it (because they're all identical.)

Unfortunately, you are absolutely correct. Most peoples eyes are all not the same, and intellectually, most people don't technically understand what a mild tint change incurs. They think everything turns green, instead of just causing a mild color shift. It is proven to be there, whether you notice it, or not.

[Snicket]

Originally Posted by Petra_Kalbrain

And, don't forget to list those people who DON'T HAVE the green tint at all!

It's not that I don't see it and it's there. My TV had absolutely no green tint to it without having touched the calibration before, during, or after. I have a window not 4 feet from my TV that I opened to make comparisons. The green of the trees and the blues of the skies outside matched the greens and blues of the FOTR to perfection.

The image was just a fraction of a pubic hair darker than I had previously experienced the film.

How in the world is that even close to an accurate color measurement?

Hint:

[Show spoiler]Its not.

[Cortiz]

Is this a Lord of the Rings thread or Star Wars??

[Petra_Kalbrain]

Originally Posted by Snicket

How in the world is that even close to an accurate color measurement?

Hint:

[Show spoiler]Its not.

Oh. So I'm guessing that real the real life image could not possibly be an accurate colour scheme upon which to expect a film to be based on? Skies are blue and most plant based life has a large green contingency within it's outward appearance. I'd say that real life is very much an accurate colour assessment tool for a film of this nature.

[nathan_393]

Originally Posted by Petra_Kalbrain

Oh. So I'm guessing that real the real life image could not possibly be an accurate colour scheme upon which to expect a film to be based on? Skies are blue and most plant based life has a large green contingency within it's outward appearance. I'd say that real life is very much an accurate colour assessment tool for a film of this nature.

Yes, but at the same time, because film captures colours differently than the human eye perceives them, it isn't quite. When it comes to film, you have to base colour values on RGB - especially in the digital age.

The fact is that FOTR has a green push to it - is it super-noticeable? I think it's noticeable, but it's very dependent on your TV's calibration. Even if you have a perfectly calibrated screen, the green tint is still there. I think Ken's perfectly honest and very in-depth review is an indicator of this.

If we are all to be rational, the tint is there and most everybody (who's interested) knows that the tint is there - just like the majority of the interested people know that the new "NOOOOOO" is in ROTJ. Nobody could argue that new vocal addition isn't in that film, and in the same sense, the green tint in FOTR should be unarguable.

You're more than welcome to say you don't notice it or perceive it - everybody's eyes are different, of course, and it's important to note that perceived colour values are always a YMMV deal. But the tint is there and it has affected contrast and shadow detail (negatively in the majority of cases - if not all of them). Check out Moria for that.

So you don't see it. I see it, but after fixing a couple imperfections with my TV's calibration, I don't see it as much and it doesn't bother me as much as it used to. It has certainly changed. Opinions will vary on this, which is important, but of equal importance is that the tint is there.

[Snicket]

Originally Posted by Petra_Kalbrain

Oh. So I'm guessing that real the real life image could not possibly be an accurate colour scheme upon which to expect a film to be based on? Skies are blue and most plant based life has a large green contingency within it's outward appearance. I'd say that real life is very much an accurate colour assessment tool for a film of this nature.

Yes the sky is blue and grass is green, but there are thousands of blues and greens in the color spectrum. And then there are even more variables on top of that such as contrast and lighting. Just looking out a window and then to your TV will in no way give you an accurate way to judge color to any degree of certainty, especially if there is a proven subtle tint.

I recently was shooting auditions and was streaming the feed to a monitor and I noticed the color on the monitor was subdued ever so slightly. I had to look at the color bars on the TV through a blue lens to carefully adjust the picture so it could more accurately represent the image my eyes were seeing. I could never just eyeball it and match it up.

[goresnet]

I didn't know George Lucas was involved with LOTR... interesting.

[vertigo12314]

On my Benq computer screen the FOTR green tint is butt ugly, but when I watched it on a friend's Sony Bravia it looked better (though the green is still there) and less intrusive.

Time to get a Bravia.

[nathan_393]

Originally Posted by vertigo12314

On my Benq computer screen the FOTR green tint is butt ugly, but when I watched it on a friend's Sony Bravia it looked better (though the green is still there) and less intrusive.

Time to get a Bravia.

I have similar results to your friend's with my Bravia, so get on that

[DarkDune]

I determined a long time ago in this thread that the FOTR Blu "green tint" can be resolved with a slight adjustment to the HUE setting on anyone's HDTV. Change the HUE until the whites are white, and the blues are blue, and make sure gold looks gold, and you'll be good. Perhaps 3 to 5 notches of change.

I am pretty certain the authoring included this HUE shift throughout the FOTR Blu.

Try it and you will see. Just remember what the HUE setting was before changing it in case you want to switch it back for other movies.

In our case though, I adjusted the HUE to "fix" FOTR, and it ended up being "fine" still for other movies.

BTW: We use a BRAVIA. LOL

[DarkDune]

Originally Posted by goresnet

I didn't know George Lucas was involved with LOTR... interesting.

Well, Peter Jackson WAS in many of the STAR WARS DVD Documentaries! LOL

[AVfile]

NEWS FLASH

Folks, I would hate to start a false rumor but apparently a large Canadian store (Future Shop) has indicated that the set has just been recalled by the studio:

Originally Posted by supervij

I had it in my shopping cart at 8:03pm. I stopped to add my gift card to it, which was apparently took too much time, and I lost it. At 8:04pm.

I called my closest FS to see if they had any in store (it says that it's available in-store on the site, but won't specify which stores) and the guy I spoke to said that it's been recalled by the studio. He had no idea why, but that's what he was told. He didn't know if all stores were affected by this. I guess the recall didn't extend to the warehouse.

WTF!!


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[nathan_393]

Originally Posted by AVfile

NEWS FLASH

Folks, I would hate to start a false rumor but apparently a large Canadian store (Future Shop) has indicated that the set has just been recalled by the studio:



WTF!!


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Not sure I buy this. If it's true, we'll hear about it for sure over the next couple of days.

[AVfile]

I agree. The distributor in this case is Alliance, so maybe it's just something with them.


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[BohemianGraham]

It's sold out online, but all the stores in Nova Scotia, with the exception of New Glasgow, are claiming it's in stock. That's 5/6 stores. I wouldn't trust a Future Shop clerk as far as I can throw one to be honest. Half of them are more interested in getting their commission rather than helping the consumer.

Alliance doesn't have any info on the Extended Version on their site. Also, they want you to register to read any new/press items they have.

[air453]

Originally Posted by Petra_Kalbrain

And my LOTR EE trilogy seems to be taking up the same amount of space as had they released just 3 BDs in the set with each film and all of its corresponding extras on 1 complete disc each.

I'm always with the DVD argument since they neither take up more room being on several discs nor would the quality of the material be enhanced by BD playback. All extras were filmed in SD and are impossible to present in HD anyways.

EDIT: Ok, maybe the cases are a fraction of a pubic hair thicker than a standard BD case. But, seriously. To say that they could have "saved a tonne of space" is astronomically over-exaggerating the scenario.

Have you seen the Godfather trilogy blu-ray set? That's a three disc set that's way smaller than the LOTR EE. In fact, you might even say it's a fraction of a pubic hair thicker than a normal blu-ray case.

[seen316]

What's up LOTR fans!....just got my set couple of days ago, from the future shop online sale last weekend....$40 Anyways, just got through FOTR & so far the PQ/AQ was awsome! Just popped in the TT & while watching with the subtitles on, the part where they flashed back to Gandolf hanging on for his life b4 falling down the cave, he tells everybody "Run, you fools!"....I noticed that the word "run" in the subtitle was replaced by the word "fly". Didn't think of it till 2 secs later just thought to myself "didn't he just say "RUN!", & the subs said "FLY"?" Went back through it & YES the word "FLY" was in the subtitle, LOL. Anyways, not a big deal I just thought I'd let everybody know & wanted to know if anybody else noticed? Is there any other weird/funny things u guys noticed while watching all 3 films?