The Lord of the Rings: The Motion Picture Trilogy (Extended Edition) (2001-2003)

[nathan_393]

Originally Posted by Cook

Thought I would bump the pictures. Damn, I'm going to have to buy this set now. At first I was hesitant with the 9 DVD's and all, but I'm gonna buy it anyways.

These pictures don't get old for me. I love how this looks! Not as awesome as the DVD set, but for a Blu... Well, WB doesn't get much better than this imo.

[micks_address]

going to have to pick these up now.. should be good... only 10 days to wait here...

[little flower]

Are Best Buy and Warner Shop the only places that have an exclusive gift if you order this set from them? I am thining about the exclusive Chess set from Best Buy, but I will keep looking around to see if any other places will have exclusive gifts if you purchased this set from them.

[duggie walker]

A lot of this argument is predicated on the notion that Peter Jackson is some kind of Cameron-esque technophile, and incapable of making poor decisions.

That nasty "veil" of digital grading has been a bane of mine for years. The way it's been utilised, even by good directors like David Fincher, is quite vulgar in comparison to the delicate chemical colour-timing used in the days of celluloid. I distinctly remember FELLOWSHIP having that sickly tinge in the cinema - I remember being annoyed by it (as well as many other things); and if subsequent dvd editions have dispensed with it, I'd venture that those were the less authentic images.

As far as discrepancies with the recent screening, I may be wrong but I'd imagine that such a green tint would be a little more diluted on a big screen with proper light levels. Your home set-up is a lot more concentrated and a lot duller than a cinema presentation.

Also - you might be surprised how clueless some directors are when it comes to such matters. I'm not saying Jackson is this way but you can't assume that he knows that much about issues of digital grading, or cinematography. Jim Cameron's obsessed with all that stuff and CGI and so-forth but he's a rarity. A director need only know about staging scenes and directing actors - he's got other people to deal with all the other stuff and he's often only as good in those areas as the people he's hired. There's a tendency to think that every director is Stanley Kubrick.

And even though a director says he "approved" something, they're just people like the rest of us. Sometimes it's half-assed, passed to assistants because of busy schedules and the like.

It may well be that the green tint is Jackson's intention. It may also be that it is horrible. He is not a genius. He is just an average to good director with a lot of stamina and millions of dollars in his bank account.

[mredman]

Originally Posted by Dyana B

I just got through reading the review that Bill Hunt (thedigitalbits.com) gave regarding the extended editions on bluray and he mentioned that the films look amazing. For further info, you should really read his review, you will not be disappointed, and now more than ever, I cannot wait until I get my hands on my copy...

yep its gonna be glorious to get those

[mredman]

Originally Posted by Ken Brown

Yes, but I'm assuming there wasn't a pause to switch Blu-ray discs in the theater, meaning the theatrical presentation isn't necessarily indicative of what appears on the Blu-ray discs. Again, it's quite possible, at least as I understand it, for a transfer to be approved and then to be mishandled as it makes its way to the actual mass-production discs. That also means the theatrical presentation and Blu-ray presentation could, hypothetically, be different.

In other words, he may have approved of the transfer, but is that the exact transfer we're seeing, or did something else transpire between leaving his eyes and landing on store shelves?

I'm hoping Jackson or Lesnie addresses the Blu-ray release after seeing the Blu-ray discs themselves.

Again though, that's if the issue is as troubling as the early screenshots suggest. I'm speaking in hypotheticals at this point

also hope there is a statement by PJ before the movie starts on EE BD like in the theaters. and THEY MUST be the same as the theater EE versions. I mean how can they not be the same

[Pieter V]

So concluding: The green colors are gone?

[mredman]

Originally Posted by little flower

I would have liked the bonus stuff on a Blu-ray disc/discs. If they could not put the bonus stuff in High-definition the other way to make use of Blu-ray is that it can hold tons of standard definition bonus stuff. It would be neat to watch all the bonus stuff on 1 or 2 disc/discs.

Definitely agree on this

[amoergosum]

Originally Posted by Pieter V

So concluding: The green colors are gone?

...no.

[mredman]

Originally Posted by Panama Jack

Did anyone attend Fathom's FOTR EE event tonight?

Did the greenish tint show up on the big screen? If so, then I would say that confirms without a doubt that Peter Jackson wanted the new colors to be there.

If not, then well... the possibility of a screw up is more likely.

People who have seen it in the theaters said that the green tint was there but not as much as some screenshots has shown. But they also said that some screenshots for the EE is the exact same as it was in the theaters. So i would say the versions we get on BD is the same as the theater versions. And if you read Bill Hunts review he also states that they approved of the BD so i am very sure now that the theater versions is the same as the BD versions. And they look marvelous as so many has said now who has seen them and Bill Hunt about the BD also said they looked amazing which leads me to believe they are the same and PJ has approved them

[mredman]

Originally Posted by Romansh

More comparisons with differences similar (IMO) to the screenshot vs. PowerDVD above:

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/59637
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/59639
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/59640
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/59642
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/59644
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/59645

It's quite subtle, but the color is slightly different; perhaps a bit brighter, with just a tiny bit less of a green veil (particularly in 59637, 59639, 59642). Still the same general colors though (i.e. very different from the TE).

YES the BD EE looks freaking amazing here. Can't freaking wait to get this set

[WorkShed]

The added brightness is definitely a plus. Fellowship doesn't look as dull. I'm not a fan of the window boxing on Two Towers but I wouldn't have noticed it if it hadn't been brought to my attention with screenshots.

The green is still there on Fellowship but if Jackson approved it, I can't say it was a fault of the studio. The new shots look a lot better and out of the realm of The French Connection that it was coming close to.

Now, I'm waiting on a good price. I'm sure after a month, CostCo will have a good deal. I can wait... for now!

[Todd Smith]

Originally Posted by Goldengirl

Todd, it looks like you got your name on the credits for free!

Nice! Finally it pays off to be a Smith!

[mredman]

2nd reviewer saying the EE looks amazing. And also confirms the youtube video posted of Gandalf at Bilbo's door does not look so green as the youtube video.

Reviewer Robert Harris just wrote this on the hometheaterforum thread:

[In reply to someone posting this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vwcm-73kZE8]

To my eye, there may be a point or two toward cyan-blue, but nothing like what I'm seeing in the youtube example. Skies are generally a pleasant blue, flesh tones, even for non-humans are normal, greens are strong. I presume they're not in Kansas anymore.

Detail is superb, recognizing the fact that we're dealing with 2k.

I'm seeing no problems whatsoever. A beautiful and satisfying image.

Projected via a JVC RS50 recently tuned by my go-to expert Kevin Miller, on a Stewart white 1.3.

http://www.hometheaterforum.com/foru...y#post_3822239

So it seems like the one posted the youtube video is trying to stir something up that is not there and manipulated the BD picture to spark uproar.

[aiman04]

Originally Posted by Cook

Thought I would bump the pictures. Damn, I'm going to have to buy this set now. At first I was hesitant with the 9 DVD's and all, but I'm gonna buy it anyways.

Are the BD cases normal-sized?

[Todd Smith]

Originally Posted by mredman

2nd reviewer saying the EE looks amazing. And also confirms the youtube video posted of Gandalf at Bilbo's door does not look so green as the youtube video.

Reviewer Robert Harris just wrote this on the hometheaterforum thread:

[In reply to someone posting this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vwcm-73kZE8]

To my eye, there may be a point or two toward cyan-blue, but nothing like what I'm seeing in the youtube example. Skies are generally a pleasant blue, flesh tones, even for non-humans are normal, greens are strong. I presume they're not in Kansas anymore.

Detail is superb, recognizing the fact that we're dealing with 2k.

I'm seeing no problems whatsoever. A beautiful and satisfying image.

Projected via a JVC RS50 recently tuned by my go-to expert Kevin Miller, on a Stewart white 1.3.

http://www.hometheaterforum.com/foru...y#post_3822239

So it seems like the one posted the youtube video is trying to stir something up that is not there and manipulated the BD picture to spark uproar.

Definitely very encouraging and glad it is nowhere near that youtube video which was horrible. Looking forward to Kens review as well.

[Anglik]

On the caps-a-holic website it states that the release has Polish subtitles..does anybody know what the country of origin is for this release?

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DTS-HD Master Audio English 4476 kbps 6.1 / 48 kHz / 4476 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 6.1-ES / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit)
Dolby Digital EX Audio Polish 640 kbps 5.1-EX / 48 kHz / 640 kbps / DN -4dB
Dolby Digital EX Audio Thai 640 kbps 5.1-EX / 48 kHz / 640 kbps / DN -4dB
Dolby Digital Audio English 192 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / DN -4dB / Dolby Surround
Dolby Digital Audio English 192 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / DN -4dB / Dolby Surround
Dolby Digital Audio English 192 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / DN -4dB / Dolby Surround
Dolby Digital Audio English 192 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / DN -4dB / Dolby Surround

[Grand Bob]

Originally Posted by Ken Brown

But in this age of George Lucas and film revisionism, it's entirely possible he just wanted to keep tinkering with it. If so, the debate that should be held is a different one. Or it's possible there is an error/issue of some sort. Or it's possible his intro was filmed months ago, long before the theatrical and Blu-ray presentations were finalized. It's dizzying really.

The relative silence on the matter from Warner, Jackson and Lesnie is what baffles me. If the appearance were completely intentional, I'm confused as to why a sweeping statement hasn't been issued to settle the matter once and for all. I'm confused as to why inside reports would need to come by way of people like Mr. Hunt, rather than directly from the mouths of those involved.

But it's all conjecture really. I remain hopeful that Jackson and Lesnie will issue a new statement about the controversy brewing in forums, even if it requires them to repeat what they've already (reportedly) made clear behind the scenes. They're certainly aware of the controversy, and it's in their best interest to address is quickly and emphatically. I have a feeling that's the only thing that will settle any debate anyway.

I'm going into this with cautious optimism, but what I've seen so far is not encouraging. Of course the BD EE will be more detailed than the DVD EE, but the color is just as vital - and I thought Jackson had it right on the DVD version. The contrast in color helped to distinguish the "desirable" Middle-earth locations such as Hobbiton - with a yellowish, sunshine-like haze, from the darker areas such as Moria, Isengard, and Mordor. Rivendell had an intentional orange bias, indicating this period was the "autumn" of the Elves existence in Middle-earth. In addition to loss of shadow-detail, it appears that all scenes have been generically shaded green, for whatever reason, and the color-contrast aspect of the movie has been minimized. Mr. Hunt only hastily addresses the color issue, almost seeming to avoid it. We'll know for sure soon; this is going to be a long two weeks.

[Nicanor]

The youtube video has way more green than the actual blurays.
I had the opportunity to view the picture quality of the EE blurays (they were leaked 2 days ago on the internet - 204 GB the whole 6 discs in total) and it was great.
It was different than in TE. The colors were more "normal".
I can't explain. All i can do is to take some screenshots this evening.
The reviewers were right. The movies look superb.

[amoergosum]

Originally Posted by Nicanor

I can't explain. All i can do is to take some screenshots this evening.

Please take a screenshot of the following scene >>>