The Lord of the Rings: The Motion Picture Trilogy (Extended Edition) (2001-2003)

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by Maggot

I have to say it here.........

Looks like meat is back on the menu boys! As in hot dogs and hamburgers today! Potato salad, macarroni salad, 3 bean salad, etc!

Happy 4th and eat hardy!

I had ribeyes, grilled corn, bratwursts, baked beans, and a homemade desert called pavlova. Yeah, my stomach is hemorrhaging at the moment.

[PRO-630HD]

Originally Posted by mredman

But now with reports that the green tint was at the theater as well. Just almost kills all doubt that there is a mistake. because if the theater version of the EE FOTR is the same as the blu rays as this guy states.There can't be a mistake IMO:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120737/...?p=1#184184347

"Apparently some of the color timing has been changed by PJ. This sometimes bugged me because it looked to me like some scenes were just too dark. And I wasn't sure if it was the theater to blame or PJ. Like the snows on Caradhras looked too blue to me at times. But then the bright light elements were so bright, I thought maybe it's not the projection. When Arwen comes glowing on the screen, she's GLOWING."

I doesn't state anywhere in there that there is green tint? Where are you pulling this from?

[mredman]

Originally Posted by Ken Brown

Secondhand reports from Bill Hunt and Harry Knowles have confirmed Jackson at least knows how hot the debate has grown over the tint. And other posts from Mr. Hunt indicate he's made it clear to both Warner and Wingnut the debate is still raging. I think Jackson is fully aware of the fact that the official statement hasn't helped very much in some circles.

If he's making a stand on principle or annoyance, I have to confess as to feeling as if I misjudged him. Peter Jackson, as I've seen him, has been eager to address every question and concern that comes his way. I don't recall him ever taking a principled silence on any matter; certainly not something as simple as expressing the reasoning behind one of his intentional decisions



Subjective accounts of theatrical presentations have gone both ways, so it's a wash for me. Plus, several non-tinters have argued that people are posting that the theatrical print exhibited the tint because those people believe that will somehow prove there is an error.

Honestly, it's all so muddled, nothing but Jackson's comments could cut through all of the conflicting reports and confusing information on the subject.



Oh, Peter Jackson definitely approved the transfer. I don't think anyone is arguing that. The source of the tint-as-error-despite-approval argument is two-fold:

1) If so many people can't see the tint, or consider it a non-issue, Jackson might have missed it as well. Those arguing that the tint is difficult to see are actually arguing that Jackson might have simply missed it and approved a transfer that does indeed feature a mistake.

2) It's really about the process and the semantics. I "approved" my review of 'Arthur' last night after reading over it several times. I think I caught all of my mistakes. I'd even say it represents my accurate intentions. However, I'm sure if someone goes digging, they'll find typos, grammatical errors, etc. My approval and my intentions never guarantee mistakes don't exist in my work. They only guarantee that I approved my mistakes right along with everything else.

Again, I'm not suggesting this is what happened. I'm only suggesting it isn't outside the realm of possibility that a director could approve a transfer and mistakes could be present. It happens all the time; more than most of us catch.

If it isn't outside the realm of possibility, then we can discuss the tint without calling each other crazy

(Not you and me. We always have pleasant chats. There are just multiple members in the thread who are more interested in the argument than the tint and its subjective or objective effects. We don't all have to agree on any given point to all be on the same page. Tint? Up for civil debate. Anger and arguments? Come on, gents. Take it somewhere else. There are plenty of more contentious boards out there if any of you are hungry for a tussle )

Yes you got a point here. He could have thought this looks very good but after seeing it you start to see the flaws.

But like you said i don't think this is what happened at all. And i do really believe that warner asked PJ first before coming out with that statement that it is no error on it.

But really hope PJ will also come out and say something so ALL doubts will be put to rest. I still think only 1% out of 100% that a mistake was made. I really can't see there being a mistake anymore after warners statement.

Happy 4th of july:-)

[Cevolution]

Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

I had ribeyes, grilled corn, bratwursts, baked beans, and a homemade desert called pavlova. Yeah, my stomach is hemorrhaging at the moment.

The pavlova is actually an Australian/New Zealand desert and 1 of my favorites, I like it best with fresh raspberries, kiwi fruit and passionfruit, beautiful. Anyway I hope u enjoyed it?

[mredman]

Originally Posted by PRO-630HD

I doesn't state anywhere in there that there is green tint? Where are you pulling this from?

he says the image is dark like on the blu ray as well. I don't see a green tint at all either i see that the image being darker then the TE. Like this guy at the theater also sees.

[ScarredLungs]

Originally Posted by Jimbo976

Curious if anyone has done the whole EE marathon in 1 day yet. There is no way I could stay awake to do that but we got half way through TTT last night. Maybe we'll watch the rest tonight. I have held off watching the whole set again until the EE came out on Blu-ray and it is finally here now

Yep See my past two posts below

Originally Posted by cvm

Tomorrow (Saturday July 2nd) we are having a marathon for all 3 movies. My wife is going to make homemade blue berry waffles and homemade syrup in the morning, there will be snacks through the day and BBQ at night. After the 12 hr marathon, it will be time for fireworks!

We have invited over a group of people. It is going to be great! I popped in FOTR and it looks amazing. It is going to be a blast tomorrow.

Originally Posted by cvm

Yeah, this was awesome. We watched all three and all three films look amazing. After seeing all three, I would rate this set a 10/10. There is nothing that I can see that is wrong with this set.

[42041]

Originally Posted by mredman

Yes it should kill any doubt when did you hear of a theater transfer that was an error in plus PJ approved that screening at the theater with the green tint as that guy said.

It'd be next to impossible to verify that the digital cinema package and the blu-ray are the same by eye, since you'd have very little awareness of how the visuals on the screen relate to the projector's actual brightness and actual white point.
No one is debating that the color grading has been changed, and that would be obvious to anyone familiar with the previous home video releases of the film. It's still radically different even if you try to compensate for the overall color cast, and that's the bit I have trouble believing PJ requested.

[ApolloOne]

Originally Posted by Ray_Rogers

Yes Blu-ray has more colour depth but it could be used as a base/foundation to work off of.

Actually, DVD and Blu-ray both have the same 8-bit 4:2:0 color depth. But BD's broader colorspace, higher resolution and higher bandwidth makes for a far superior color representation.

[28BlusLater]

I get the box set on Wednesday. Got it for $68 shipped with taxes included. Can't wait for it to come in the mail. Haven't seen these movies since they were in theaters!! I haven't seen any of the Extended Editions. I hope that this 'tint' people keep complaining about isn't too irritating. I didn't get the theatrical editions previously because I heard that the technical side was a bit faulty and it was worth the wait for the Extended cuts. Can't wait to check these out! Back to the man cave for 12 hours!

[ApolloOne]

I, my wife and kids enjoyed a spectacular LOTR EE day yesterday. Breakfast, then Fellowship, then lunch, then Two Towers, then dinner, then Return of the King, then bed. All three movies looked incredible (I have no complaints whatsoever about FOTR's grading), and lossless surround sound just makes the whole experience complete. In fact, someone walking outside told me she could hear the movie from the street. I'm glad the cops weren't called!

Now to try to understand Peter Jackson...

When you're sitting around color grading something, it's easy to let your mind gravitate toward a certain mental palette. You tweak and you see a result and you say, "Yes, that's exactly what I'm looking for." And then your preference gets somewhat colored (pun intended) for the rest of the process, because you've fallen in love with a look. Maybe he'll look on it again with fresh eyes in a few months and say, "Gee, it seems a bit too cyan." I know I've looked at something I've edited a few months later and thought that maybe I went too far.

But then again, maybe he'll always love it.

I'm not saying that's exactly what happened, but rather presenting a possibility based on my own experience.

[raygendreau]

The green tint issue has been mentioned by the reviewer at The Examiner in N.Y. If this starts to permeate mainstream media, it is likely that WHV will be forced to expand on their PR release.

http://www.examiner.com/dvd-in-new-y...ilogy-extended

(This is not mainstream media)

[Petyr_Baelish]

Originally Posted by raygendreau

The green tint issue has been mentioned by the reviewer at The Examiner in N.Y. If this starts to permeate mainstream media, it is likely that WHV will be forced to expand on their PR release.

http://www.examiner.com/dvd-in-new-y...ilogy-extended

(This is not mainstream media)

Uh how did frogmorts picture Of frodo at mount doom end up in their gallery?

[HD Goofnut]

Have you guys seen this screen caps comparing the theatrical to the extended BDs? Despite the slight green tint the EE have much better color saturation and fine detail.

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/58147
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/58250
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/58229
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/58228

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by Cevolution

The pavlova is actually an Australian/New Zealand desert and 1 of my favorites, I like it best with fresh raspberries, kiwi fruit and passionfruit, beautiful. Anyway I hope u enjoyed it?

Yep, it was quite good.

[Petyr_Baelish]

Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

Have you guys seen this screen caps comparing the theatrical to the extended BDs? Despite the slight green tint the EE have much better color saturation and fine detail.

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/58147
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/58250
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/58229
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/58228

I'm pretty sure everyone has seen those by now.

[raygendreau]

Originally Posted by Boone_Carlyle

Uh how did frogmorts picture Of frodo at mount doom end up in their gallery?

The credited source is Warner Home Video.

[WorkShed]

Originally Posted by Boone_Carlyle

Uh how did frogmorts picture Of frodo at mount doom end up in their gallery?

Ahahahahahahahahahahaha! Wow, that's hilarious!

https://www.examiner.com/dvd-in-new-...slide=34616736

[kingkong650]

Originally Posted by Boone_Carlyle

Uh how did frogmorts picture Of frodo at mount doom end up in their gallery?

Priceless.

[Chuck HD]

Originally Posted by Ken Brown

The only DNR that appears in the three EE transfers appears to be that which was applied by Jackson and Lesnie in post-production while digitally color grading and originally finalizing the films. (Many filmmakers use techniques involving a bit of DNR nowadays; it's quite common and largely inconsequential if employed properly.)

As far as I can tell, it doesn't appear as if any additional DNR has been applied to any of the transfers by the studio. The theatrical and extended versions of TTT and ROTK look very similar, but small improvements verify Jackson's claim that they were remastered as well and that a small amount of DNR was indeed applied to the theatrical cut Blu-ray releases of TTT and ROTK.

Hope that helps clarify!

Much-belated thanks!

[beefytwinkie]

Sweet! Just got through The Two Towers. Very cool movie. I can't wait to start Return of the King on Saturday. I have not peeked at the picture quality yet but I'm sure it's going to be great!

I noticed now that a few people were suspended, this thread died down. There should be at least four more pages repeating the same things over and over! I almost miss it.