The Lord of the Rings: The Motion Picture Trilogy (Extended Edition) (2001-2003)

[Ronin48]

Originally Posted by -RONIN-

The green tint is there but, like everything else online, it was blown way out of proportion by the die hard fans. I have my TV calibrated and at no time did I find it distracting in any way. Easily the best Fellowship has ever looked in the home.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion but I find it very amusing to read here that some find it unwatchable. I couldn't imagine being that uptight.

Couldn't agree with you more. I've been reading these posts from the beginning, wondering who is right, what it will really look like when I finally get this set (which I did thanks to BF). I feel unbelievably misled by the naysayers. Slight tint yes, but none the less, these look awesome (yes, IMHO).....

[SpartanIre]

Originally Posted by Ronin48

Couldn't agree with you more. I've been reading these posts from the beginning, wondering who is right, what it will really look like when I finally get this set (which I did thanks to BF). I feel unbelievably misled by the naysayers. Slight tint yes, but none the less, these look awesome (yes, IMHO).....

Yup! Never detracted from my movie viewing pleasure! I find the "controversy" to be like the story of the Emperor's New Clothes...

[nazdar]

i have the lotr theatricals in a steelbook on blu-ray (both on dvd) and wondering if i should go for this low price and if it will ever be better (i know how much better the aq and pq in the extended eds are and thats what i would like to have more than the wonderful full scenes) ... its tempting

[Ronin48]

Originally Posted by SpartanIre

Yup! Never detracted from my movie viewing pleasure! I find the "controversy" to be like the story of the Emperor's New Clothes...

Hahaha, awesome analogy (out of the mouths of babes........)!!

[Grand Bob]

Originally Posted by -RONIN-

The green tint is there but, like everything else online, it was blown way out of proportion by the die hard fans. I have my TV calibrated and at no time did I find it distracting in any way. Easily the best Fellowship has ever looked in the home.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion but I find it very amusing to read here that some find it unwatchable. I couldn't imagine being that uptight.

Originally Posted by retablo

"Unwatchable" or not, all those people bought and own the discs and watch them, even if they say they don't. It's all just a lot of hyperbole.

Originally Posted by ry35an

I suspect you're right. I'd be willing to bet most of the people who claim these are "unwatchable", a "travesty", etc..own the set and do watch it (complaining the whole time)

"Unwatchable"? - No, but undeniably different, as anyone who watches parts of the TE and then the same parts of the EE can discern. The green (or teal, or whatever) tint is there and the overall picture is darker, and is apparent enough to be the major topic in this thread which has 10,000+ posts.

"Hyperbole"? - No, as I have both sets and the problem mentioned above bothers me enough that I will not watch the Fellowship EE Blu-ray again, but enjoy The Two Towers and Return of the King EE's. I understand the average viewer will find the tinted/darkened Fellowship EE's to be OK, and may even prefer it - which is fine. You can trust me when I say I know the value of my (and all) opinions. At the risk of being repetative, I again say that even with the green tint, "Fellowship" is one of my three favorite movies of all time; but I enjoy having the choice to watch the non-tinted, lighter TE. And being fully aware that many people on this thread will not tolerate ANY negative criticism of the movies, I again say they are great movies, perhaps unequalled in the history of cinema; but they are not perfect.

Originally Posted by faerieoftheforest

In The Two Towers, when the rohirrim are traveling to Helm's Deep, it's bugged me all this time that they appear to be going in the wrong direction. They are walking from right to left with the White Mountains behind them. If the white are behind them surely they should be walking from left to right. There shouldn't really be any mountains behind them if they are walking in that direction. Please tell me if i've got it completely wrong but I am just going on the maps of Middle Earth.

It depends on which Rohirrim are being referenced. There were the Rohirrim that were coming in the direction from the battle of the Fords of Isen, in which case the direction of travel would have been from the right of the screen to the left and the mountains would correctly be behind them. The second group is the Rohirrim who left Edoras before the rest of the people began walking. Assuming it is the second group you are referring to, you are correct in stating the people should be walking lfrom the left to right if the White Mountains are behind them. To complicate the matter, in the book, the people did not walk to Helm's Deep (an improbable journey of about a hundred miles) but simply walked a short distance directly behind Edoras into the mountains to Dunharrow, which in the movie (RotK) is where Aragorn received his sword from Elrond. Of course this brings up the relatively minor quibble that, if the Rohirrim and Aragorn & company were going to end up at Dunharrow anyway, why not just have the people of Edoras go there in the first place?

[Grand Bob]

Originally Posted by Moviefan2k4

I also thought they changed the color of Bag End's front door, but I checked the DVDs, and learned I was wrong. I guess I got confused with Sam's yellow doorway, from the end of the trilogy.

Sam and Rosie lived at Bag End, although the residence at the end of the movie does not appear to be Bag End.

[-RONIN-]

Originally Posted by SpartanIre

Yup! Never detracted from my movie viewing pleasure! I find the "controversy" to be like the story of the Emperor's New Clothes...

HAHA... awesome!

[Gold Ranger]

Originally Posted by Bmvc1

I just finished "fellowship" and the green tint was 100% non existent. I watched the whole thing very closely and at no point was there a green tint. The snow was bright white. Maybe it's just my TV.

Same here...

[Gold Ranger]

Originally Posted by Moviefan2k4

Well, the Scouring of the Shire was alluded to in "Fellowship of the Ring", when Frodo looks into Galadriel's mirror. Peter Jackson also has said that he deliberately chose to make Frodo and Sam's quest to destroy the Ring the main focus of the films. From what I heard, part of Saruman's death scene was lifted from that part of the last book; it was just moved to Isengard for dramatic effect.

Originally Posted by MacEachaidh

That's a misunderstanding that's become common over the internet, but what he saw in the Mirror wasn't the Scouring of the Shire - it was a vision of a possible future. Galadriel herself said it was what would become of Middle Earth should the Quest fail and the Ring fall into Sauron's hands.


I won't suggest he didn't understand the true nature of the story, even though it does look that way, but this was where the story got dumbed down and the Hobbit plot thread somewhat neutered. The Scouring of the Shire was the coming-of-age for the Hobbits as a race, the point their involvement in the Quest was leading to, and it was an allegorical expression of Tolkien's fervent hope that Britain could weather the storms of the modern world and still retain its comparative innocence and charm.

Fans of these films as action-oriented fantasy flicks will say that the film was better without that extra layer; I say it lost some of the poignancy and, in a way, the dramatic resolution of the whole story.


In some senses, yes; the Scouring was the removel of Saruman's influence over the Shire, and especially the thugs like Sharkey who during the period of the Quest had come to have free reign under Saruman's protection. But Saruman's death in the film bore no resemblance to what happened in the book.

Actually, that Mirror "scene" is from The Two Towers. It's when they are being chased from... crap... i blanked... it's the EXACT same scene...

[Gold Ranger]

Originally Posted by faerieoftheforest

In The Two Towers, when the rohirrim are traveling to Helm's Deep, it's bugged me all this time that they appear to be going in the wrong direction. They are walking from right to left with the White Mountains behind them. If the white are behind them surely they should be walking from left to right. There shouldn't really be any mountains behind them if they are walking in that direction. Please tell me if i've got it completely wrong but I am just going on the maps of Middle Earth.

Well, a lot of stuff was mis-pronounced, and the Misty Mountains were NOT misty at all...
Sith... They were barely cloudy...

[MacEachaidh]

Originally Posted by -RONIN-

Life is too short to take things to the level we see around the net.

But never too short, apparently, to post self-congratulatory comments over and over, slagging off other people for their opinion.

[-RONIN-]

Originally Posted by MacEachaidh

But never too short, apparently, to post self-congratulatory comments over and over, slagging off other people for their opinion.

The key is not to take things so seriously and not be so sensitive. The problem with opinions is that some people mistake their own personal opinions as facts and then get bent out of shape when others disagree. At the end of the day does it really matter either way?... these are just movies after all.

[Petra_Kalbrain]

Originally Posted by Bmvc1

I just finished "fellowship" and the green tint was 100% non existent. I watched the whole thing very closely and at no point was there a green tint. The snow was bright white. Maybe it's just my TV.

Those who see a terrible green tint when watching are just too stubborn to calibrate their TVs a little bit to compensate for it. The adjustment necessary to correct the green tint is so infintessimally small that it fixes Fellowship while not affecting any other image from any other source. Many people have claimed this to be so. Yet, the stubborn ones demand a new transfer because they used "special equipment" to calibrate their TVs "to perfection" instead of using their own brains to calibrate their TVs to how THEY like it best.

[Mandalorian]

Just finished Disc One. Doesn't it end at the perfect place? Lol And I gotta agree with you guys, the teal tint isn't nearly as bad as I expected. I've already learned not to feed into people's nonstop bickering and complaining around here, especially before a Blu even comes out, but this is the icing on the cake. This movie looks amazing. Fine detail is extraordinary. I was noticing things I never did on DVD before. And that's just Disc One of the first movie. I'm not putting the complainers down, but I strongly disagree with them. For people to accuse this color timing of being so overbearing that they'll never watch the EE of FotR on Blu is simply ridiculous to me. Great job Pete. I can't wait to see how this new color timing bridges the gap between The Hobbit and LotR, in terms of gradual aestetic development over the course of the series, if it even does.

[Duffy12]

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The color timing issue didn't bother me as much as I feared, however the 'crushed blacks' more than made up for that by removing detail that was previously seen on the DVD.

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[42041]

Originally Posted by Petra_Kalbrain

Those who see a terrible green tint when watching are just too stubborn to calibrate their TVs a little bit to compensate for it. The adjustment necessary to correct the green tint is so infintessimally small that it fixes Fellowship while not affecting any other image from any other source. Many people have claimed this to be so. Yet, the stubborn ones demand a new transfer because they used "special equipment" to calibrate their TVs "to perfection" instead of using their own brains to calibrate their TVs to how THEY like it best.

That's not "calibration", that's exactly the opposite.

[MacEachaidh]

Originally Posted by -RONIN-

The key is not to take things so seriously and not be so sensitive. The problem with opinions is that some people mistake their own personal opinions as facts and then get bent out of shape when others disagree. At the end of the day does it really matter either way?... these are just movies after all.

"Key" to what exactly, mate? But thanks for the patronising comments, plus the assumption that I was being "sensitive" or too serious. I wasn't; I have no agenda on this, other than preferring for us all to have an environment where people can have an open conversation without snide and personal judgements. Disagreeing on this colour timing issue doesn't require characterising others in a negative way - unless of course you need to do that to feel good about your own opinion, in which case that's your personal problem.

So how about you take some of your own advice, try not to be so insensitive, recognise that your opinions aren't facts, and try not to get bent out of shape yourself about other people's posts?

[nazdar]

i have the lotr theatricals on blu-ray and wondering if i should go for the low price and enjoy the better the aq and pq but the discord over the 'tints' makes me wonder
have the extendeds on dvd (dont watch dvds much anymore and they are soo long but were soo good) .. even for one watch im tempted

[Moviefan2k4]

Well, I finally finished "Return of the King" about an hour ago, and was very happy with it. I'd wanted to own the Extended trilogy on Blu since I first heard about it, but paying $100 for just six discs I was interested in was out of the question. When Fry's had it for $40, I jumped, and overall, I don't regret it.

[P@t_Mtl]

Originally Posted by Moviefan2k4

Well, I finally finished "Return of the King" about an hour ago, and was very happy with it. I'd wanted to own the Extended trilogy on Blu since I first heard about it, but paying $100 for just six discs I was interested in was out of the question. When Fry's had it for $40, I jumped, and overall, I don't regret it.

I just completed the three movies last weekend. I have some time off during the Christmas and new years week. I will watch them again at that time. I was really happy with them, great details. I got the set for $44 on Amazon.ca and really for that price you can't go wrong at all. Along with Star Wars, this set was my most wanted set. I really have no need for other movie sets like Alien, Matrix, Jurassic Park (I would get only the first movie is they made it available), Back To The Future. All I am missing now is the Indy set on Blu-ray. Once I have that one I will own my big three movies on Blu-ray