The Lord of the Rings: The Motion Picture Trilogy (Extended Edition) (2001-2003)

[SpartanIre]

Originally Posted by Kinetic_Blue

Basically the end of it.
The Scouring of The Shire.
and Samwise also going off to The Grey Havens were cut.

I was a little surprised too at how The Scouring of The Shire was left out. A great part of the book that really showcased how much the four hobbits had evolved as warriors. However, it does not affect the movie in my opinion. I believe you are really missing out on some fantastic cinema... but to each their own...

[Moviefan2k4]

Well, the Scouring of the Shire was alluded to in "Fellowship of the Ring", when Frodo looks into Galadriel's mirror. Peter Jackson also has said that he deliberately chose to make Frodo and Sam's quest to destroy the Ring the main focus of the films. From what I heard, part of Saruman's death scene was lifted from that part of the last book; it was just moved to Isengard for dramatic effect.

[ry35an]

Originally Posted by Moviefan2k4

In my current situation, it would take at least 8 months for me to afford an HDTV below $400. I'm on Supplemental Security, and once all my responsibilities are done, I have to make about $200 last a whole month.

You could look at Craigslist. I bought a 32" Toshiba 1080p for my bedroom for $225. It is used but in great condition.
There are deals to be had. You don't necessarily need $400.
We're just trying to help.

You may "think" you see a difference, but until you get a HDTV you're wasting money buying discs that are meant to be seen on a high definition display.

Start saving money by not buying anymore blu-rays. It will add up quick.

[nazdar]

Originally Posted by slimdude

Goo Gone would have removed all the adhesive residue. It works wonders!

bestine used by art houses for decades ... desolves adhesives wax etc w no effect to papers and plastics ... i keep it around in the digital age just for dvd stickermania

[Bmvc1]

I just finished "fellowship" and the green tint was 100% non existent. I watched the whole thing very closely and at no point was there a green tint. The snow was bright white. Maybe it's just my TV.

[Moviefan2k4]

Originally Posted by ry35an

You could look at Craigslist. I bought a 32" Toshiba 1080p for my bedroom for $225. It is used but in great condition.
There are deals to be had. You don't necessarily need $400.
We're just trying to help.

Thanks for the tip; I'll look into it.

You may "think" you see a difference, but until you get a HDTV you're wasting money buying discs that are meant to be seen on a high definition display.

Its not just a matter of thought; I've noticed all kinds of things in the Blu-Ray versions of films I've owned on DVD before, both in picture and sound. I know the advances will be much more prominent with an HDTV, but as I said before, I originally decided it was better to build a library first. It's taken me almost 2 years to do so, and the TVs have considerably dropped in price, so I am thinking about it. I look forward to re-experiencing my collection in full HD; its just a matter of time and money at this point.

[Moviefan2k4]

Originally Posted by Bmvc1

I just finished "fellowship" and the green tint was 100% non existent. I watched the whole thing very closely and at no point was there a green tint. The snow was bright white. Maybe it's just my TV.

I noticed a few very brief moments, the most noticeable being Frodo's eye color when Merry & Pippin realize he's going to Mordor alone. I also thought they changed the color of Bag End's front door, but I checked the DVDs, and learned I was wrong. I guess I got confused with Sam's yellow doorway, from the end of the trilogy.

[MacEachaidh]

Originally Posted by Moviefan2k4

Well, the Scouring of the Shire was alluded to in "Fellowship of the Ring", when Frodo looks into Galadriel's mirror.

That's a misunderstanding that's become common over the internet, but what he saw in the Mirror wasn't the Scouring of the Shire - it was a vision of a possible future. Galadriel herself said it was what would become of Middle Earth should the Quest fail and the Ring fall into Sauron's hands.

Peter Jackson also has said that he deliberately chose to make Frodo and Sam's quest to destroy the Ring the main focus of the films.

I won't suggest he didn't understand the true nature of the story, even though it does look that way, but this was where the story got dumbed down and the Hobbit plot thread somewhat neutered. The Scouring of the Shire was the coming-of-age for the Hobbits as a race, the point their involvement in the Quest was leading to, and it was an allegorical expression of Tolkien's fervent hope that Britain could weather the storms of the modern world and still retain its comparative innocence and charm.

Fans of these films as action-oriented fantasy flicks will say that the film was better without that extra layer; I say it lost some of the poignancy and, in a way, the dramatic resolution of the whole story.

From what I heard, part of Saruman's death scene was lifted from that part of the last book; it was just moved to Isengard for dramatic effect.

In some senses, yes; the Scouring was the removel of Saruman's influence over the Shire, and especially the thugs like Sharkey who during the period of the Quest had come to have free reign under Saruman's protection. But Saruman's death in the film bore no resemblance to what happened in the book.

[Moviefan2k4]

Originally Posted by MacEachaidh

That's a misunderstanding that's become common over the internet, but what he saw in the Mirror wasn't the Scouring of the Shire - it was a vision of a possible future. Galadriel herself said it was what would become of Middle Earth should the Quest fail and the Ring fall into Sauron's hands.

Yes, but Peter Jackson has said that scene was intended as his nod to the Scouring of the Shire. You see the hills burning, Sam in chains, etc. I'm fairly sure this was addressed, somewhere in the Appendices discs, or maybe on the first film's commentary.

[-RONIN-]

Originally Posted by Bmvc1

I just finished "fellowship" and the green tint was 100% non existent. I watched the whole thing very closely and at no point was there a green tint. The snow was bright white. Maybe it's just my TV.

Originally Posted by Moviefan2k4

I noticed a few very brief moments, the most noticeable being Frodo's eye color when Merry & Pippin realize he's going to Mordor alone. I also thought they changed the color of Bag End's front door, but I checked the DVDs, and learned I was wrong. I guess I got confused with Sam's yellow doorway, from the end of the trilogy.

The green tint is there but, like everything else online, it was blown way out of proportion by the die hard fans. I have my TV calibrated and at no time did I find it distracting in any way. Easily the best Fellowship has ever looked in the home.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion but I find it very amusing to read here that some find it unwatchable. I couldn't imagine being that uptight.

[retablo]

Originally Posted by -RONIN-

The green tint is there but, like everything else online, it was blown way out of proportion by the die hard fans. I have my TV calibrated and at no time did I find it distracting in any way. Easily the best Fellowship has ever looked in the home.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion but I find it very amusing to read here that some find it unwatchable. I couldn't imagine being that uptight.

"Unwatchable" or not, all those people bought and own the discs and watch them, even if they say they don't. It's all just a lot of hyperbole.

[Vashetti]

The Scouring Of The Shire would not have worked on film.

It would have been a total anticlimax and viewers were already tired from the destruction of the ring climax and were anticipating the end.

It would have made an already long film even longer with no real contribution to the story.

Jackson was right to cut it.

[Moviefan2k4]

Originally Posted by Vashetti

The Scouring Of The Shire would not have worked on film.

It would have been a total anticlimax and viewers were already tired from the destruction of the ring climax and were anticipating the end.

It would have made an already long film even longer with no real contribution to the story.

Jackson was right to cut it.

I think I may have briefly flipped through a copy of "The Two Towers" when I was a young teenager, but otherwise, I haven't read any of the books. I really enjoy the films, though, and was very surprised when Frodo was corrupted by the Ring at Mount Doom. Elijah did a great job, when you see his face in closeups of that moment. He goes from desperation, to confusion, and finally, resignation.

[ry35an]

Originally Posted by Moviefan2k4

Thanks for the tip; I'll look into it.

Its not just a matter of thought; I've noticed all kinds of things in the Blu-Ray versions of films I've owned on DVD before, both in picture and sound. I know the advances will be much more prominent with an HDTV, but as I said before, I originally decided it was better to build a library first. It's taken me almost 2 years to do so, and the TVs have considerably dropped in price, so I am thinking about it. I look forward to re-experiencing my collection in full HD; its just a matter of time and money at this point.

On second thought..you may be right. They are remastered most of the time so I'm sure you are seeing a difference. Although, as you acknowledge not the amount of difference you would like to see.

Again, if you'd prefer to build a library before you purchase a display that's your decision. I was just trying to point out that with your current library that includes a couple semi-expensive box sets you could have that display already.

What is the size of the display you'd prefer?

[ry35an]

Originally Posted by retablo

"Unwatchable" or not, all those people bought and own the discs and watch them, even if they say they don't. It's all just a lot of hyperbole.

I suspect you're right. I'd be willing to bet most of the people who claim these are "unwatchable", a "travesty", etc..own the set and do watch it (complaining the whole time)

[the sordid sentinel]

Originally Posted by Vashetti

The Scouring Of The Shire would not have worked on film.

It would have been a total anticlimax and viewers were already tired from the destruction of the ring climax and were anticipating the end.

It would have made an already long film even longer with no real contribution to the story.

Jackson was right to cut it.

I agree, and I also think the Scouring of The Shire is a bit anticlimatic in the book itself.

[-RONIN-]

Originally Posted by retablo

"Unwatchable" or not, all those people bought and own the discs and watch them, even if they say they don't. It's all just a lot of hyperbole.

Exactly

Originally Posted by ry35an

I suspect you're right. I'd be willing to bet most of the people who claim these are "unwatchable", a "travesty", etc..own the set and do watch it (complaining the whole time)

HAHA... You just know they do. Just like those over at AVS Forum who pixel peep or have to pull out their SPL meter because they suspect a speaker is louder than the rest...lmao

I get that people expect a certain level of quality but sometimes we just have to sit back and enjoy a movie for the great entertainment and escape that it is. Life is too short to take things to the level we see around the net.

[Slaveknight]

Originally Posted by ry35an

I suspect you're right. I'd be willing to bet most of the people who claim these are "unwatchable", a "travesty", etc..own the set and do watch it (complaining the whole time)

I never owned a LOTR DVD set before but I think the "unwatchabe" term here is definitely a miles away from DVD. Heres a link for good comparison

http://www.cornbread.org/FOTRCompare/

[Moviefan2k4]

Originally Posted by ry35an

What is the size of the display you'd prefer?

Somewhere between 32" and 50", in full 1080p, with an HDMI input for my player, and preferably an LCD model that's both reliable, and not expensive to fix.

As for the boxsets being expensive, "Star Wars" was a gift from a friend, "Lord of the Rings" was $40 at my local Fry's, and the "Harry Potter" sets were done with birthday money.

[Mithrandir-Grey]

In The Two Towers, when the rohirrim are traveling to Helm's Deep, it's bugged me all this time that they appear to be going in the wrong direction. They are walking from right to left with the White Mountains behind them. If the white are behind them surely they should be walking from left to right. There shouldn't really be any mountains behind them if they are walking in that direction. Please tell me if i've got it completely wrong but I am just going on the maps of Middle Earth.