The Lord of the Rings: The Motion Picture Trilogy (Extended Edition) (2001-2003)

[Petra_Kalbrain]

Originally Posted by Brightstar

I thought FOTR was allready remasterd for the EE blu ray?

The theatrical wasn't remastered quite well enough.

[Adam_WM]

Originally Posted by Brightstar

I thought FOTR was allready remasterd for the EE blu ray?

And some think the colors are off on the Blu-ray EE.

[Petra_Kalbrain]

Originally Posted by Adam_WM

And some think the colors are off on the Blu-ray EE.

But, regardless of what they think of the colour "issue," it cannot be argued that the EE is remastered for maximum visual detail quality. The theatrical BD is just not "up to snuff" in that department... or so I gather from what I've read online. I won't ever watch the theatrical releases since seeing the EE when they first released on DVD.

[imsounoriginal]

Originally Posted by Petra_Kalbrain

But, regardless of what they think of the colour "issue," it cannot be argued that the EE is remastered for maximum visual detail quality. The theatrical BD is just not "up to snuff" in that department... or so I gather from what I've read online. I won't ever watch the theatrical releases since seeing the EE when they first released on DVD.

The theatrical cut has too much DNR and EE, plus murky colors and is overall just very disappointing. Regardless of preference for Extended vs. Theatrical, this movie won an Oscar for Cinematography and should have its original look preserved in the best way possible. The current theatrical disc just doesn't cut it.

[StingingVelvet]

Can't imagine 3D is in a place now where any studio would pay to do a conversion on these movies. Also 4k would mean redoing all the effects, which I doubt they will ever do (and might look terrible given how the Hobbit looks).

I'm happy with my extended trilogy set.

[Gold Ranger]

NO GREEN TINT EDITION!!!!!!

That would be great to have!

[treylertrash]

$27.99 on Amazon

[Khronikos]

Ahh to hell with it. I bought it. Maybe should not have considering I am not too sure about the color grading of the first film. But hey I really am not sure what 4K is going to add to this at all except being expensive as hell. You really can't get much more out of a 2K master tbh. If they ever regrade the first film I suppose I will get that. For now this should suffice.

Watch it be 25 dollars come Christmas or Black Friday lol.

[wondervamp]

Originally Posted by Khronikos

Ahh to hell with it. I bought it. Maybe should not have considering I am not too sure about the color grading of the first film. But hey I really am not sure what 4K is going to add to this at all except being expensive as hell. You really can't get much more out of a 2K master tbh. If they ever regrade the first film I suppose I will get that. For now this should suffice.

Watch it be 25 dollars come Christmas or Black Friday lol.

I picked one up too...a smokin' deal. Last black Friday, BB had it @$29.99 for a short while then it QUICKLY went up to $39.99 on black friday. Can't go wrong at that price.

[StingingVelvet]

Originally Posted by Khronikos

Ahh to hell with it. I bought it. Maybe should not have considering I am not too sure about the color grading of the first film. But hey I really am not sure what 4K is going to add to this at all except being expensive as hell. You really can't get much more out of a 2K master tbh. If they ever regrade the first film I suppose I will get that. For now this should suffice.

Watch it be 25 dollars come Christmas or Black Friday lol.

The chances of them re-doing the effects in 4k is almost nil.

[dcolon]

The description on the individual titles for this set states that the UV and iTunes codes are expired. I know with some movies you can still redeem them. Does anyone know if that's the case with this set? I'm thinking of buying the set since Amazon has it for $28.

For reference, this is the set I'm referring to:

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/The-L...Blu-ray/59886/

Thanks

[STONE DEVIL]

Originally Posted by HeavyHitter

I'm very happy with the extended version Blus as they are (which I prefer as a whole over the theatricals) and I have no desire for anything 3D anymore as that fad wore off quickly for me, so it will be very hard to sell me anymore LOTR.

3D...Ha. Never even got into that FAD. So over rated.

[Early Memphis]

Blind Buy - 'cause no-one would know unless they tested the code/s - and who's gonna give them out for "testing"? Really, since the "expiration date" usually means nothing, only someone who just bought the set - and had it sent to them, and just used the code - would know. Good luck with that.

Originally Posted by dcolon

The description on the individual titles for this set states that the UV and iTunes codes are expired. I know with some movies you can still redeem them. Does anyone know if that's the case with this set? I'm thinking of buying the set since Amazon has it for $28.

For reference, this is the set I'm referring to:

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/The-L...Blu-ray/59886/

Thanks

[HeavyHitter]

Originally Posted by StingingVelvet

The chances of them re-doing the effects in 4k is almost nil.

Exactly, the costs of doing such would almost be tantamount to remaking the movies - never going to happen.

[Filmmaker]

Originally Posted by HeavyHitter

Exactly, the costs of doing such would almost be tantamount to remaking the movies - never going to happen.

Never's a long time. After sixteen years, Fox let Lucas redo a ton of effects in the STAR WARS trilogy, so I'd say "unlikely to happen anytime soon" would be a more realistic statement.

[Lyle_JP]

Originally Posted by Filmmaker

Never's a long time. After sixteen years, Fox let Lucas redo a ton of effects in the STAR WARS trilogy, so I'd say "unlikely to happen anytime soon" would be a more realistic statement.

Those were new and different effects. They could re-sell the picture as a new experience. This would be the same effects exactly, just at a higher resolution. Most people thought that the picture they saw on giant movie screens was high-enough resolution.

[HeavyHitter]

Originally Posted by Filmmaker

Never's a long time. After sixteen years, Fox let Lucas redo a ton of effects in the STAR WARS trilogy, so I'd say "unlikely to happen anytime soon" would be a more realistic statement.

No comparison at all.

The amount of CG effects in the original Star Wars SEs are a miniscule drop in the bucket if that compared to all of the CG that was done in the Lord of the Rings. It would be a remarkably huge overhaul if were are talking redoing ALL of the CG in LOTR for 4K. As I said, they would basically be remaking the movies. That is not going to happen. They are not going to be spending tens and tens of millions of dollars (or maybe even more) to do so. The costs would be extraordinary and not worth it in any business sense to attempt to sell to the population other than the 1% of us who care about these things.

Maybe fix up a few things here and there like what was done in Star Wars? Sure, maybe. But that is not the context to which I was referring.

[StingingVelvet]

There's also the question of why they would do such a thing. 1080p is likely going to be "good enough" for consumers for our lifetimes. Even if 4k becomes the new standard I would guess like 80% of older movies will just get 4k upscales and consumers will barely notice or care.

I guess if they really want to remaster LotR in 4k they could upscale most effects and redo some really close shots, but I don't see them wanting to go through even that expense when 95% of consumers will be just fine streaming a 4k upscale of the 2k masters.

[HAL9K]

Originally Posted by Gold Ranger

NO GREEN TINT EDITION!!!!!!

That would be great to have!

This, and also The Hobbit EE films but I don't even see it happening. I've noticed that most of the major discussion regarding the tint is only with FotR but it is in fact also present in TTT & RotK EE's. The tint is just not as heavy or noticeable. UJ & DoS both have it as bad as FotR.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by HeavyHitter

No comparison at all.

The amount of CG effects in the original Star Wars SEs are a miniscule drop in the bucket if that compared to all of the CG that was done in the Lord of the Rings. It would be a remarkably huge overhaul if were are talking redoing ALL of the CG in LOTR for 4K. As I said, they would basically be remaking the movies. That is not going to happen. They are not going to be spending tens and tens of millions of dollars (or maybe even more) to do so. The costs would be extraordinary and not worth it in any business sense to attempt to sell to the population other than the 1% of us who care about these things.

Maybe fix up a few things here and there like what was done in Star Wars? Sure, maybe. But that is not the context to which I was referring.

Also consider that new movies finished at 4K still don't have full 4K VFX from start to finish, if at all. With that in mind, I can see 4K rebuilds of native >2K live action + upscaled VFX becoming a thing IF this new format takes off and they're in need of some big recent movies from the last 10-15 years which were finished at 2K. Some movies will have so much 2K VFX (like, say, Phantom Menace) that they'd be better off just upscaling the whole thing because there's only one untouched non-CG shot in the entire show, but I think LOTR would have a decent balance between the two so it'd be worth doing. The Hobbit, on the other hand, not so much.

Then again, given how UHD BD will be providing higher bit depth and a wider colour gamut and a possible HDR regrade, even a pristine upscale from the 2K masters with all that on top would provide almost as many tangible benefits as a proper 4K rebuild. But, as Velvet is fond of reminding us, the demand dictates supply. Let's see how UHD starts off with selling genuine 4K content before we get to the inevitable consumer confusion that upscaling will bring.