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Old 10-02-2012, 02:45 PM   #4501
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Here is a link to a review of this movie that made my day. I dont agree with him but damn was this funny

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Old 10-02-2012, 02:46 PM   #4502
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you mean like all the time, except in very special circumstances--Spielberg, Cameron, etc. etc.
As David said if there are no major changes yes maybe but in this case it looks like someone got involved as this is one big change.
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Old 10-02-2012, 02:47 PM   #4503
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Uh-oh. Looks like old-school fans of this one are screwed. 14 minutes ago from the Twilight Time Facebook page...

Felix Pena: I got my copy of NOLTD '90 yesterday and watched it last night. I thought the picture was a little dark and some blue seems to have been added to create a more gradual sense of the transition from day to night. It makes the movie a little scarier as far as I'm concerned and I agree that the pictures people keep posting are not a true representation of the difference. People should reserve judgement until they've seen it for themselves. I look forward to purchasing more titles from you in the future. Thanks again for resurrecting this cult classic and giving it a second life.

Twilight Time DVD Label: Appreciate your support, Felix, it means a lot to us. These situations can be stressful, but all will be resolved. As we stated on Sunday, we were in touch with the studio yesterday, and a definitive answer will be coming soon, but all the indications are this was how the Blu-ray was intended to look.
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Old 10-02-2012, 02:54 PM   #4504
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Notes in the BD package say "prepared for Blu ray release by Brian Jamieson and Nick Redman".
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Old 10-02-2012, 02:55 PM   #4505
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but all the indications are this was how the Blu-ray was intended to look.
A night effect colour before sunset? Missing sound? I look forward to the "definitive" answer from Sony.

Does Sutter Cane work for Sony? And is Twilight Time's quality control staffed by the ghost of Ray Charles?
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Old 10-02-2012, 02:56 PM   #4506
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Twilight Time DVD Label: Appreciate your support, Felix, it means a lot to us. These situations can be stressful, but all will be resolved. As we stated on Sunday, we were in touch with the studio yesterday, and a definitive answer will be coming soon, but all the indications are this was how the Blu-ray was intended to look.
The way it was intended to look? For who? Not me. I've treasured this film for 20+ years, and it's never looked like this. I remember when the title was announced. I was so excited about seeing the first 20 minutes (my favorite part of the movie) in Full HD on my TV. I just always loved the opening. The fact that it was a sunny day was always so creepy to me. It reinforced the idea that evil doesn't only occur at night.
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Old 10-02-2012, 02:57 PM   #4507
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"its a bare bone disk, only having commentary and music only track"

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edit : and hes snapping very annoyingly the case open-shut-open-shut-open Arhg !
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Old 10-02-2012, 03:02 PM   #4508
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Twilight Time posted this on their Facebook page in response to someone from the UK asking if their copy had been shipped yet...

"SAE is a bit overwhelmed with orders at the moment, and are working hard to process everything...if you have any questions or concerns email them at info@screenarchives.com but rest assured they'll get to yours soon if they haven't already."

Since they are still shipping copies, even through all the brouhaha, it's pretty clear they have no intention of fixing anything and never did.
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Old 10-02-2012, 03:03 PM   #4509
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Redman posts at the Home Theater Forum - head over there and let him know how you feel.
Don't think i want to join HTF....
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Old 10-02-2012, 03:04 PM   #4510
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Noticed HTF did an in depth review of Enemy Mine several days ago, Wonder why they haven't reviewed NOTLD 90 yet!
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Old 10-02-2012, 03:06 PM   #4511
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Noticed HTF did an in depth review of Enemy Mine several days ago, Wonder why they haven't reviewed NOTLD 90 yet!
I wonder what Robert Harris thinks of it?
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Old 10-02-2012, 03:06 PM   #4512
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Since they are still shipping copies, even through all the brouhaha, it's pretty clear they have no intention of fixing anything and never did.
As others have said, they've done all the fixing they can for the moment -- offer a refund. They can't just issue a press release saying, "We're hard at work on a new transfer that preserves the original look." It's not in their power.
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Old 10-02-2012, 03:08 PM   #4513
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As others have said, they've done all the fixing they can for the moment -- offer a refund. They can't just issue a press release saying, "We're hard at work on a new transfer that preserves the original look." It's not in their power.
Wouldn't it make more sense to stop shipping copies until they get an answer from Sony as to whether this was intentional or not? They are obviously anticipating what the answer will be and are just stringing people along to save face.
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Old 10-02-2012, 03:10 PM   #4514
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Noticed HTF did an in depth review of Enemy Mine several days ago, Wonder why they haven't reviewed NOTLD 90 yet!
Probably because they are too cozy with Twilight Time. If they get an insider from a certain company on that site, they only lob softball questiosn their way.
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Old 10-02-2012, 03:11 PM   #4515
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Wouldn't it make more sense to stop shipping copies until they get an answer from Sony as to whether this was intentional or not? They are obviously anticipating what the answer will be and are just stringing people along to save face.
I think they're fairly certain of what nobody wants to accept... that SONY very likely did this on purpose... It's obviously and 'error' for film-fans but it wasn't a mistake in the process of doing the master. They chose to do it. TT obviously didn't know it was altered... they are in a tricky spot because it's out of their hands. Sony isn't going to be remastering the film to fix this problem.
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Old 10-02-2012, 03:12 PM   #4516
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Wouldn't it make more sense to stop shipping copies until they get an answer from Sony as to whether this was intentional or not? They are obviously anticipating what the answer will be and are just stringing people along to save face.
They stop shipping = More people pissed off. Anyway, I got a shipping notice on Friday, so I imagine most of them are already on their way out the door.

As far as "anticipating what the answer will be", what if the answer is, "No one seems to know"? Would that fundamentally change the situation?
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Old 10-02-2012, 03:15 PM   #4517
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It's now Tuesday and no one has heard anything. Whats going on????
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Old 10-02-2012, 03:16 PM   #4518
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Wouldn't it make more sense to stop shipping copies until they get an answer from Sony as to whether this was intentional or not? They are obviously anticipating what the answer will be and are just stringing people along to save face.
No, they're not. They're OBVIOUSLY giving the customers the choice to make up your mind. While it's unanimous changes were made, and near unanimous they were of detriment, it's not unanimous that the blu-ray is worthless. People should see what's there NOW (and it's not "defective" but it may have been a mistake in colour timing, rather than a deliberate attempt at a final release verson) and decide "Do I want it? Or do I want a refund?", because any replacement will take WEEKS anyway, if not MONTHS. Might as well see what's there, because there are LOTS of reviews in this thread from people saying "It's not great, but I'm not too bothered" or "I'll be in for a replacement, but I can live with it". Give more of those people a chance to see their copy. You're being an ass.
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Old 10-02-2012, 03:20 PM   #4519
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More likely they're just waiting for Sony to get back to them.

"Look, uh, I know we left a message yesterday, but some of these...these fans...they're, uh, they sound really pissed. On our end we'd just like some kind of confirmation that these changes were the result of...well...the director or producer or somebody...anyway, give us a ring and let us know."
It'd have went more like "Hi it's just Simple Simon over at Twilight Time, can you hurry that official statement over that the blu ray is supposed to look like this so we can stop people complaining, thanks again."
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Old 10-02-2012, 03:25 PM   #4520
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No, they're not. They're OBVIOUSLY giving the customers the choice to make up your mind. While it's unanimous changes were made, and near unanimous they were of detriment, it's not unanimous that the blu-ray is worthless. People should see what's there NOW (and it's not "defective" but it may have been a mistake in colour timing, rather than a deliberate attempt at a final release verson) and decide "Do I want it? Or do I want a refund?", because any replacement will take WEEKS anyway, if not MONTHS. Might as well see what's there, because there are LOTS of reviews in this thread from people saying "It's not great, but I'm not too bothered" or "I'll be in for a replacement, but I can live with it". Give more of those people a chance to see their copy. You're being an ass.
I'm merely pointing out, for the people here still holding out hope that there will be a recall and/or replacement program, that it is simply not going to happen. Twilight Time continues to downplay the problem (if you even believe one exists), is still shipping copies, and today stated "we were in touch with the studio yesterday, and a definitive answer will be coming soon, but all the indications are this was how the Blu-ray was intended to look."

My point is that this is the end of the line. There will be no recall, no new print struck, no nothing other than refunds. If you call that "being an ass" then so be it.
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