Night of the Living Dead (1990) - Out of Print

[rdodolak]

Originally Posted by popeflick

And at the end of the day, the director can release it with or without revisions. It is his.

Yet the director knew nothing about the changes until after the blu-ray came out. So he had no say when the changes were originally being made.

[vidjunkie]

Originally Posted by bigdaddyhorse

Look closer and the framing is different from the dvd to BD, those clearly have the BD framing. It's the BD with filtering, done far better than the professionals who worked on it I will add.

No it is not the DVD or the BD, and that "other" guy certainly does not know what he is talking about, it is not an upscale, we also did re color the BD as well, but we did not go quite as bright as the Theatrical, but significantly less dark\blue then the TT release, that Vimeo video I posted a while back is our new color timing, I have not done a comparison video yet for the Theatrical vs TT release, I probably should, to be honest I do not hate the TT release, but to me it is to dark and blue, but that said, the Theatrical is to bright for a Horror film, so we messed around and came to our own color, and as I said that is in the Vimeo video.

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...postcount=6418

This is what we came up with, now this is the blu-ray.

[psicon]

Originally Posted by tele1962

Bluish grey, is what it is. Now on many of the screen grabs at the begining of the film leaves on trees look a bluish mess whil on my tv they are clearly green (although darker).

It has green in it but not very strong, when did you get your monitor callibrated?

[slimdude]

Originally Posted by bigdaddyhorse

It's my opinion it looks worse and too dark, lots of make-up effects are lost. It's a fact it looks different. I didn't want to believe these screens either before my copy got here, but they look like what I saw (the dark half, light half is dvd). I said it many posts ago, but one of the things I always loved about this film was that it all happened during what looked like a perfect beautiful day. Provided great contrast to the horror unfolding.

The theatrical release, had extremely too much exterior, and interior lighting, for it to be a zombie movie, which may be the reason why, the color timing was modified, and the director: Tom Savini loved it. The Night of the Living Dead (1990) blu-ray release, look like George Romero's: Land of the Dead! That's the appropriate way for a zombie movie to look like. A dark atmospheric zombie, or any other horror film, represent and creates a creepy, scary, and frighting feeling reaction to its viewer. Even, the late: Michael Jackson's Thriller video, was filmed at night, and had a dark horrific content!

[Mr Kite]

I do know a little of what i am talking about Vid, just your not giving anything away.

To the other poster i calibrate on a regular basis.

[psicon]

Originally Posted by tele1962

I do know a little of what i am talking about Vid, just your not giving anything away.

To the other poster i calibrate on a regular basis.

Yiu callibrate your computer monitor to the exact same standards as your tv? No? guess that is why the screencaps look different to what you are seeing on your tv.
The vast majority of caps posted look exactly the same as the blu when viewed on the same equipment.

[vidjunkie]

Originally Posted by slimdude

The theatrical release, had extremely too much exterior, and interior lighting, for it to be a zombie movie, which may be the reason why, the color timing was modified. The Night of the Living Dead (1990) blu-ray release, look like George Romero's: Land of the Dead! That's the appropriate way for a zombie movie is suppose to look like. A dark atmospheric zombie, or any other horror film, represent and creates a creepy, scary, and frighting feeling reaction to its viewer. Even, the late Michael Jackson's: Thriller video was dark in content!

Now this is what I am saying, but the TT release is still to much on the dark side, at least to me, and what you said about the Theatrical is also how I feel, it is a little to bright for Horror\Zombie flick, that is why we did a color setting that is somewhat in between for those last images I posted, that is the version I myself prefer and watch, kind of like Terminator remastered, the video is really beautiful, but the color is still a little off\wrong, but the first release is to pink lol, so we are going to try and balance this out for our Terminator video, but that is another story for another thread.

[Mr Kite]

Originally Posted by vidjunkie

Now this is what I am saying, but the TT release is still to much on the dark side, at least to me, and what you said about the Theatrical is also how I feel, it is a little to bright for Horror\Zombie flick, that is why we did a color setting that is somewhat in between for those last images I posted, that is the version I myself prefer and watch, kind of like Terminator remastered, the video is really beautiful, but the color is still a little off\wrong, but the first release is to pink lol, so we are going to try and balance this out for our Terminator version, but that is another story for another thread.

Terminator colour off/wrong on the remaster. Sorry mate but who now doesn't know what they are talking about. But as you say thats for another thread.

[vidjunkie]

Originally Posted by tele1962

Terminator colour off/wrong on the remaster. Sorry mate but who now doesn't know what they are talking about. But as you say thats for another thread.

Like I said, is your sole purpose in this thread now to provoke? it really seems that way, damn I wish this site had an ignore feature, it desperately needs one.

[Mr Kite]

Originally Posted by psicon

Yiu callibrate your computer monitor to the exact same standards as your tv? No? guess that is why the screencaps look different to what you are seeing on your tv.
The vast majority of caps posted look exactly the same as the blu when viewed on the same equipment.

The picture on my tv is correct yes but the screen grabs on here look to Blu probably down to my PC monitor as i have already said. That is why viewing screen grabs on a PC monitor is pointless unless it is calibrated and we know the process for creating the screen grabs.

[Mr Kite]

Originally Posted by vidjunkie

Like I said, is your sole purpose in this thread now to provoke? it really seems that way, damn I wish this site had an ignore feature, it desperately needs one.

No mate it is not, you made a statement about the Terminator colour being off, i have seen it many, many times and it is the best it has looked. How was i provoking anything, if you make a statement like that someone will challenge it i am afraid, as i think you knew?

Anyway this is going round in circles with to many vague answers to pretty straight forward questions, then when questioned get accused of provocation. I am out on this one and leave people to make up there own minds as to the validity of some of the evidence put forward.

[psicon]

Originally Posted by tele1962

The picture on my tv is correct yes but the screen grabs on here look to Blu probably down to my PC monitor as i have already said. That is why viewing screen grabs on a PC monitor is pointless unless it is calibrated and we know the process for creating the screen grabs.

Yet you feel confident in saying screenshots and/or comparisons have been altered to make it look worse than it is based on you viewing them on a computer monitor?

[Mr Kite]

Originally Posted by psicon

Yet you feel confident in saying screenshots and/or comparisons have been altered to make it look worse than it is based on you viewing them on a computer monitor?

No i said may have been or it could be our monitors. No one on here can make proper judgment from the screen shots shown as and i will repeat unless we know the processes used to create them " it is like listening to a high end Audio system down a telephone ".

[bigdaddyhorse]

Originally Posted by vidjunkie

Now this is what I am saying, but the TT release is still to much on the dark side, at least to me, and what you said about the Theatrical is also how I feel, it is a little to bright for Horror\Zombie flick, that is why we did a color setting that is somewhat in between for those last images I posted, that is the version I myself prefer and watch, kind of like Terminator remastered, the video is really beautiful, but the color is still a little off\wrong, but the first release is to pink lol, so we are going to try and balance this out for our Terminator video, but that is another story for another thread.

Sorry if you answered this before, but did you guys work off the HD stream with the dvd colors or an actual film print? Either way, the major studios should hire you guys as you constantly turn out better work than they do! If you're doing your own telecine scans that's just a whole nother level of awesome. Either way, I'm gonna find something to trade for some of your work as it is beyond great.

[psicon]

Originally Posted by tele1962

No i said may have been or it could be our monitors. No one on here can make proper judgment from the screen shots shown as and i will repeat unless we know the processes used to create them " it is like listening to a high end Audio system down a telephone ".

For what purpose would someone alter screenshots? Is it a coincidence that the vast majority of screenshots have exactly the same look to them? Is there a big conspiracy for everyone who made screenshots to alter them with the same photoshop settings? If I look at the screenshots on the same equipment as the blu-ray they appear exactly the same. "Like listening to a lossless rip of a cd on a high end audio system"

And with that, im outa here. Going to color correct some Christine screenshots to drive down the price on the secondary market

[Mr Kite]

Originally Posted by psicon

For what purpose would someone alter screenshots? Is it a coincidence that the vast majority of screenshots have exactly the same look to them? Is there a big conspiracy for everyone who made screenshots to alter them with the same photoshop settings? If I look at the screenshots on the same equipment as the blu-ray they appear exactly the same. "Like listening to a lossless rip of a cd on a high end audio system"

And with that, im outa here. Going to color correct some Christine screenshots to drive down the price on the secondary market

I can see they are darker and you are putting words in my mouth, you are seeing the screen shots as posted but not knowing the process that created them there are so many variables it is impossible to tell correct colour brightness or anything else for that matter. So my analogy still stands and yours well..............

PS
Can you tell me what picture setting ( Normal, Movie, Cinema, Dynamic, True Cinema etc) you are viewing these on and what tv.

[rdodolak]

Originally Posted by tele1962

I can see they are darker and you are putting words in my mouth, you are seeing the screen shots as posted but not knowing the process that created them there are so many variables it is impossible to tell correct colour brightness or anything else for that matter. So my analogy still stands and yours well..............

psicon is one of the individuals that posted screencaps so he would know the process for the screencaps he captured.

[Mr Kite]

Originally Posted by rdodolak

psicon is one of the individuals that posted screencaps so he would know the process for the screencaps he captured.

That's interesting...........

[mzupeman]

Originally Posted by tele1962

I can see they are darker and you are putting words in my mouth, you are seeing the screen shots as posted but not knowing the process that created them there are so many variables it is impossible to tell correct colour brightness or anything else for that matter. So my analogy still stands and yours well..............

PS
Can you tell me what picture setting ( Normal, Movie, Cinema, Dynamic, True Cinema etc) you are viewing these on and what tv.

Taking an accurate screenshot isn't rocket science. There are plenty of variables, but multiple sources have posted screenshots. I doubt they all got it wrong...

[Mr Kite]

Originally Posted by mzupeman

Taking an accurate screenshot isn't rocket science. There are plenty of variables, but multiple sources have posted screenshots. I doubt they all got it wrong...

Showing what, how blue it is or how dark and i am not saying they all got it wrong just how they did it?

PS
To take accurate screen shots is quite difficult but achievable.