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Old 09-19-2017, 05:52 AM   #1941
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Nothing at all. I've got my despecialized editions and refuse to watch the official blu's. They're worthless and shame on Lucas and Lucasfilm for not releasing the original films. It's pretty repugnant of them.
Then why do you have the Complete Saga set in your collection? Sell or give it away, if you really hate Lucasfilm that much.
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Old 09-19-2017, 05:54 AM   #1942
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Sadly, the only time I've heard a live orchestra perform music to great classic films was a celebration of music for the Warner Bros. Looney Tunes/Merrie Melodies shorts...conductor was going through the motions, would even walk offstage (I have a sneaky suspicion the dude was drunk). He comes back, says some blatant bullshit -- my wife told me I should I go backstage and correct him, of all things, I told her no...anyway...the conductor only mentioned Carl Stalling once. I'm in the Majestic in San Antonio -- the same venue George Strait held his Hurricane Harvey relief concert last week -- he mentions Carl Stalling, and in this giant house, I was the only one who started clapping at the mention of his name. Conductor says, "Yes. Please." and then the whole place started clapping.

Anyhoo, the Maestro did great work in the Prequels, I don't think his work was served well by Lucas futzing with things again and again and tracking his music because of Lucas constantly re-editing, Williams never had a locked print to score to. Still, great work. Sometimes you have to start the applause.
The conductor should not have only given due credit to Carl Stalling, but also to
Raymond Scott. Scott's music was purchased by Warner Bros.
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Old 09-19-2017, 06:59 AM   #1943
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I don't use the phrase myself to describe my reaction to the films,...
Nor does anyone else.

Hence straw man.
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Old 09-19-2017, 07:42 AM   #1944
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It just gets so, so, incredibly tiring every time the prequels are mentioned, that someone like yourself comes along and states their opinion as some kind of universal fact, in an extremely arrogant and condescending way. I don't think much of TFA, but I don't go around stating my opinion of it as fact, as if everyone who enjoys it is some kind of blind buffoon.
Spot on. As someone who grew up with the prequels, this annoys me to no end. I cherish those movies, in the same way that OT purists cherish the OT. The prequels are, and always will be, a part of Star Wars. Enough with the bashing; it's been over 12 years! There will be no shortage of new Star Wars movies in the near future. Let those of us who enjoy the prequels, to do so in peace.
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Old 09-19-2017, 11:06 AM   #1945
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Look, the prequels are dogshit. You can try and explain away all of the problems that are there but, in the end, you should admit that they're not only bad Star Wars films but bad films period.

I have lots of films that people would consider "bad" in my collection and I completely admit that. I own Superman 3 and 4. Jaws 3 and 4. I love em. But I'm also aware that they're bad movies. I OWN UP TO IT. Yet I love them anyway.

So I'd have no problems discussing the prequels if people would look at them for what they are. You can say that it's "just my opinion" but, Hell, doesn't that mean that we shouldn't look at The Godfather or Casablanca as classics?

If having an educated opinion makes me entitled...

Well, considering he only directed one of them, how about the other 2? And, just perhaps...people would like to watch the movies as they were originally released and stood for 20 years. Again, if you don't understand that, you're being purposefully naive and blind.
Or maybe people just like the prequels because they feel they really arent all that bad? Phantom Menace is the most problematic but Revenge of the Sith is downright good and most people think so.

As you know its subjective. Hard to quantify good vs bad when discussing film or any art form.
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Old 09-19-2017, 01:02 PM   #1946
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Or maybe people just like the prequels because they feel they really arent all that bad? Phantom Menace is the most problematic but Revenge of the Sith is downright good and most people think so.

As you know its subjective. Hard to quantify good vs bad when discussing film or any art form.
Then why do we have lists, awards or critics? Why have drama classes because everything is subjective!

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Then why do you have the Complete Saga set in your collection? Sell or give it away, if you really hate Lucasfilm that much.
Bonus features. That's it. Had they not included those documentaries and deleted scenes, I never would have bought it. And, I might add, I bought it used because I refused to give them the sale.
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Old 09-19-2017, 01:56 PM   #1947
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Yeah I didn't buy the Complete Saga until I found a used copy of the Vader box for $30. Love the Prequels and the BDs for that are mostly good, but the OT BDs are problematic. I don't even think the new bonuses in the Complete Saga are all that great, but for $30 I'm not gonna complain. Nothing beats Empire of Dreams.
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Old 09-19-2017, 02:23 PM   #1948
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And, I might add, I bought it used because I refused to give them the sale.
If you bought it used you're not denying them a sale, you're just reimbursing the original buyer who gave them one. They still got payed for your copy.
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Old 09-19-2017, 03:05 PM   #1949
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If you bought it used you're not denying them a sale, you're just reimbursing the original buyer who gave them one. They still got payed for your copy.
How do you know the copy I got wasn't a promo and the person who sold it never paid for it in the first place. . Regardless, I didn't pay the money to Lucasfilm and that's the bottom line.
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Old 09-19-2017, 03:08 PM   #1950
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What's that supposed to mean? Just what are you trying to say? What do you have against yesterday?
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What's that supposed to mean? Just what are you trying to say? What do you have against yesterday?
I live I die I live again.
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Well I'm old enough, and Lucas did not wreck anything for me. They are his creations and he can do what he did what he wanted. If people do not like it, do not watch the movies. Plenty of other movies to enjoy.
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Count me in too. People are far too precious about the OT, and Jedi is pretty terrible on the whole. I was bitterly disappointed with it when I was 12, on original release, and it's only gone up in my estimation because the payoff at the end is greater when it's watched as an end to the entire 6 film cycle.
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Old 09-20-2017, 12:17 AM   #1954
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Count me in too. People are far too precious about the OT, and Jedi is pretty terrible on the whole. I was bitterly disappointed with it when I was 12, on original release, and it's only gone up in my estimation because the payoff at the end is greater when it's watched as an end to the entire 6 film cycle.
If you actually gave a crap about the whiney, obnoxious brat from the first part, sure. It's too bad you don't.
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Adults are overrated.
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Old 09-20-2017, 05:17 AM   #1956
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OT is good. SE is not bad. PT is pretty good. New movies aren't great but fun.
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Old 09-20-2017, 11:14 AM   #1957
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Actually, the entire idea of someones childhood being ruined makes no sense at all. Your childhood already happened. It cant be changed in any way without a time machine.

Just throwing that out there.
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Old 09-20-2017, 11:30 AM   #1958
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There was a poll on this, and the majority seem to like them all.

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=294027
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There was a poll on this, and the majority seem to like them all.

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=294027
The majority of this 18 to 25 year old board I'm sure.
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