81:19 Nielsen/VideoScan Weekly Sales Numbers

[Blu-Ray Buckeye]

Originally Posted by The Don

I'm gonna get him one of these days...

TF wasn't as close as it originally seemed...

even if it is only 4% higher...it's still wasn't 51/49

Even so you are forgetting how the doom 'n gloom crew was predicting a 70:30 HD-DVD landslide that week.

[Blu-Ray Buckeye]

Originally Posted by Neo65

After a strong start (for a documentary) Planet Earth was barely moving 2k disks a week for months until recently. Something happened about 3-4 weeks ago and it started to sell >10k (my estimate) a week.

Why is nobody hearing this after I've said it 3 times.... OPRAH!! It exactly matches your timing. her fans are sheep and they buy whatever she says. Look at her impact in the world of books... insanity.

[tiger roach]

Originally Posted by Blu-Ray Buckeye

Why is nobody hearing this after I've said it 3 times.... OPRAH!! It exactly matches your timing. her fans are sheep and they buy whatever she says. Look at her impact in the world of books... insanity.

I think it is the Oprah effect in combination with Christmas shopping. It is a good no-brainer holiday gift since it can appeal to almost anyone, while people can be picky and unpredictable about normal movies.

[The Don]

Originally Posted by Blu-Ray Buckeye

Even so you are forgetting how the doom 'n gloom crew was predicting a 70:30 HD-DVD landslide that week.

yuup...I am still miffed at why these numbers are different from the numbers released that week...

[Blu-Ray Buckeye]

Originally Posted by tiger roach

I think it is the Oprah effect in combination with Christmas shopping. It is a good no-brainer holiday gift since it can appeal to almost anyone, while people can be picky and unpredictable about normal movies.

Well she did feature it as on her extremely highly rated "Must Have X-Mas Gifts" show. It was her #1 movie to buy.

[hc666]

Originally Posted by Blu-Ray Buckeye

Well she did feature it as on her extremely highly rated "Must Have X-Mas Gifts" show. It was her #1 movie to buy.

So Oparah told ppl to get the "HD DVD" version???

[SpaceDog]

Quite probably, plenty of people buying the HD-DVD version don't know what HD-DVD means. They think it means either "REALLY GOOD DVD of something that was ORIGINALLY SHOT IN HD" or "meant for HD-upconverting players"

I bet there are a ton of returns on this one after Christmas.
How does that get reflected?

[The Guardian]

Negative count for PE on HD DVD the week after Christmas, perhaps?

Wouldn't it be funny if HD DVD sold 80000 discs that week but then 40000 PE's were returned? Quite possibly could be the first 90-10 week for Blu

[Blu-Ray Buckeye]

Originally Posted by hc666

So Oparah told ppl to get the "HD DVD" version???

I'm not sure she mentioned it but the promotions pimping it and tagging her name to it are HD-DVD:

http://www.oprahs-favorite-things.co...-earth-dvd.htm

[dialog_gvf]

Originally Posted by Blu-Ray Buckeye

Well she did feature it as on her extremely highly rated "Must Have X-Mas Gifts" show. It was her #1 movie to buy.

Ah, and of course that probably meant the DVD was sold out everywhere so people grabbed the HD DVD. Or, they see the HD DVD packaging on the site, and think that is the one they are supposed to choose.

Things begin to make sense. Even the much increased Blu-ray sales for it too.

I agree, things are going to be a mess after Xmas. Warner is going to wish the comboed that.

Gary

[Blu-Ray Buckeye]

Originally Posted by The Guardian

Negative count for PE on HD DVD the week after Christmas, perhaps?

Wouldn't it be funny if HD DVD sold 80000 discs that week but then 40000 PE's were returned? Quite possibly could be the first 90-10 week for Blu

I am certain they do NOT subtract out returns. The process probably has no way to account for that because they would make the seemingly reasonable assumption that returns occur fairly equally across the board, though as we know this is probably grossly untrue.

[cking2729]

Originally Posted by hc666

So Oparah told ppl to get the "HD DVD" version???

No. For the gazillionth time, people are mistakingly picking up thinking they can play it on their upconvert DVD player. I bet if we were able to get a solid number on the amount of HD-DVD's returned between Nov. 20th and January 20th, it would be an absolutely jawdropping figure.

[spicynacho]

Originally Posted by Neo65

So far, the HD DVD titles that crossed 100k are : 300, TF, PE(estimate). No other title is close.

The BD titles that definitely crossed 100k are : 300, CR, Spidey3, DH4, PotC3, PotC2 (estimate), PE (maybe), PotC1 (possibly).

Using : last known definitive volume from October 21st.
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=23417
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Edit : titles that potentially could cross 100k by end of 2007 :

Bourne on HD, HP on HD (maybe)
HP on BD (maybe), Simpson Movie (longshot). [Superbad is a very long shot, it would have to do 40k total in two weeks)

Did I miss anything else?

Rat? Departed was at 84K, ahead of PotC 1 & 2 in october, plus it has been featured in some recent sales.

[badboi]

Can't wait for the "Oprah Backlash" after Christmas. Can hear it now -- "But dear, Oprah told me to buy it. How was I to know it wouldn't work in our dvd player?"

[Alan Gordon]

Originally Posted by Blu-Ray Buckeye

I am certain they do NOT subtract out returns. The process probably has no way to account for that because they would make the seemingly reasonable assumption that returns occur fairly equally across the board, though as we know this is probably grossly untrue.

Returns would not be counted in the Weekly numbers, but don't they count in the YTD and SI numbers?

~Alan

[Blu-Ray Buckeye]

Originally Posted by cking2729

No. For the gazillionth time, people are mistakingly picking up thinking they can play it on their upconvert DVD player. I bet if we were able to get a solid number on the amount of HD-DVD's returned between Nov. 20th and January 20th, it would be an absolutely jawdropping figure.

There is some of this but I'm not convinced that's most of it. The HD-DVd side has been savvy and aggressive in attaching her name to the HD-DVD version. Just look at the link I provided. I haven't seen the same for the blu version.

[Blu-Ray Buckeye]

Originally Posted by Alan Gordon

Returns would not be counted in the Weekly numbers, but don't they count in the YTD and SI numbers?

~Alan

I would strongly doubt that the process is so robust. As I mentioned, it is simple for them to make the quick assumptions that returns on both formats negate one another as they would with normal DVD titles. They most likely just add the weekly totals in a spreadsheet or database. Do you honestly think they are recalculating the YTD & SI all of the time to capture returns? No, they are just adding the new weeks into their files.

[Neo65]

Originally Posted by Blu-Ray Buckeye

Why is nobody hearing this after I've said it 3 times.... OPRAH!! It exactly matches your timing. her fans are sheep and they buy whatever she says. Look at her impact in the world of books... insanity.

Ok. maybe it is oprah. Except, it should move the DVD version more than the HDM versions. It is more likely the xmas shopping season too compounded with good press. I also don't see why it would outsell TF, among other inexplicable behavior.

[dialog_gvf]

Actually, Oprah picked the Discovery Channel version.

THE DISCOVERY CHANNEL'S PLANET EARTH DVD SET

Holiday 2007 - Oprah's Favorite Things

The Discovery Channel's Planet Earth DVD Set
Approximate value: $59.95
800-725-4586; www.discoverystore.com

[dialog_gvf]

Originally Posted by Neo65

Ok. maybe it is oprah. Except, it should move the DVD version more than the HDM versions. It is more likely the xmas shopping season too compounded with good press. I also don't see why it would outsell TF, among other inexplicable behavior.

What happens if someone walks into Best Buy and Oprah has cleared out the DVD and the HD DVD is on the shelf?