Home Media Research weekly sales figures & other software sales data

[Grubert]

In Spring 2008, HMM started releasing relative and (later) absolute sales figures for BD and also DVD.

Week   Top20%   BD$   BDYTD$    DVD$   DVDYTD$   $%    $%YTD
01/04    16    24.33   24.33   132.83   132.83  15.5   15.5
01/11    13    18.72   43.05   110.78   243.61  14.5   15.0
01/18    12    10.56   53.61    98.37   341.98   9.7   13.6
01/25    17    15.66   69.27   108.96   450.94  12.6   13.3
02/01    14    10.27   79.54   115.36   566.30   8.2   12.3
02/08     7    11      90.54   142.11   708.41   7.2   11.3
02/15     8    10.78  101.32   153.35   861.76   6.6   10.5
02/22    10    13.28  114.6    141.64  1003.4    8.6   10.2
03/01     8    11.85  126.45   138.21  1141.61   7.9   10.0
03/08    10    10.61  137.06   134.84  1276.45   7.9    9.7
03/15    12    16.75  153.81   154.31  1430.76   9.8    9.7
03/22     9    18.79  172.6    175.67  1606.43   9.7    9.7
03/29    13    24.03  196.63   196.10  1802.53  10.9    9.8
04/05    10    17.24  213.87   182.40  1984.93   8.6    9.7
04/12     7    19.56  233.43   239.14  2224.07   8.2    9.5

BD$: million dollars spent by consumers on BD during the week
DVD$: million dollars spent by consumers on DVD during the week
$%: expenditure on BD vs expenditure on DVD
Top20%: Top 20 BD unit volume vs Top 20 DVD unit volume

Comparison of 2009 vs 2008 revenue:

Month       2008   2009  %Change
January    33.66  69.26   +106%
February   31.29  45.33    +45%
March      52.25  82.03    +57%
April (3w) 24.00  47.59    +98%

Credit to marzetta7 for running the Nielsen data during the format war.

[Grubert]

Sales information for 2008:

Week   Top20%   BD$    DVD$      $%     
03/23   6:94
03/30   8:92
04/06   4:96
04/13   5:95
04/20   6:94   9.92    n/a       n/a
04/27   6:94   9.20   106.76   7.9:92.1    
05/04   5:95   7.08   101.25   6.5:93.5
05/11   5:95   6.56   124.6    5.0:95.0
05/18   5:95   7.99   126.46   5.9:94.1
05/25   7:93  12.38   148.88   7.7:92.3
06/01  10:90  10.05   129.37   7.2:92.8
06/08   9:91  10.02   123.74   7.5:92.5
06/15   7:93  12.73   160.74   7.3:92.7
06/22   6:94   8.48   123.46   6.4:93.6
06/29   7:93   8.88   129.76   6.4:93.6
07/06   7:93   7.86   121.63   6.1:93.9
07/13  12:88   8.42   115.29   6.8:93.2
07/20   8:92   7.61   112.23   6.4:93.6
07/27   9:91   8.00   115.75   6.5:93.5
08/03  10:90   9.42   124.93   7.0:93.0
08/10   7:93   6.89   125.81   5.2:94.8
08/17   8:92   6.19   111.17   5.3:94.7
08/24   6:94   7.07   120.41   5.5:94.5
08/31   6:94   9.11   124.23   6.8:93.6
09/07  12:88  10.60   111.11   8.7:91.3
09/14   8:92   9.18   111.28   7.6:92.4
09/21   8:92   8.87   111.29   7.4:92.6
09/28   6:94  10.92   118.94   8.4:91.6
10/05  13:87  26.84   144.38  15.7:84.3
10/12  10:90  14.37   126.10  10.2:89.8
10/19  11:89  17.94   129.41  12.2:87.8
10/26  12:88  17.71   123.16  12.6:87.4
11/02   8:92  12.22   118.26   9.4:90.6
11/09   8:92  10.99   118.55   8.5:91.5
11/16   9:91  20.17   174.17  10.4:99.6 
11/23  11:89  18.60   178.46   9.4:90.6
11/30  10:90  27.68   386.35   6.7:93.3
12/07  11:89  23.64   264.23   8.2:91.8
12/14  14:86  60.78   461.51  11.6:88.4
12/21  11:89  46.51   349.84  11.7:88.3
12/28  13:87  40.07   302.48  11.7:88.3

BD$: million dollars spent by consumers on BD during the week
DVD$: million dollars spent by consumers on DVD during the week
$%: expenditure on BD vs expenditure on DVD
Top20%: Top 20 BD unit volume vs Top 20 DVD unit volume


From newest to oldest:

Home Media Magazine special issue, Hollywood Goes High-Def








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Hollywood in hidef, Blu-ray Sales Sail To All-Time Highs

* Blu-ray had its best month of sales ever in October, with consumers buying 2.3 million discs, according to Home Media Research. That's the first time disc sales have surpassed the 2 million mark in a single month and it's nearly five times greater than the 470,000 discs purchased in October 2007.
* For the year so far, Blu-ray disc sales are running about four times higher than in 2007.
* Blu-ray disc sales have crossed the 20 million mark since the format was introduced, with 14 million of those (70%) sold this year.



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Home Media Magazine special issue, Hollywood Goes Hi-def




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Hollywood in Hi-def, HD Listings

Units sold on week ended:
July 27: 229,190
July 20: 215,530
July 13: 245,160
July 6: 224,120

April 27: 259,820
April 20: 269,910
April 13: 208,420
April 6: 215,740

March 16: 319,150

March 2: 233,910
Feb. 24: 296,550

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Hollywood Reporter, Home video biz holding up

Consumer spending on DVDs and Blu-ray Discs, purchases and rental combined, was $10.77 billion in Jan-Jun 08, compared to $10.6 billion in Jan-Jun 07 (up 1.6%).

Spending on disc purchases rose 1.1%, from $6.8bn to $6.87bn.

Rental spending rose 2.6%, from $3.8bn to $3.9bn.

Unit sales were up 1.1%, with consumers buying 412.3 million discs, up from 407.9 million discs in the first half of 2007.

Home entertainment industry analyst Tom Adams isn't surprised about the continued health of the packaged-media business.

"Most analysts are techno-geeks with plenty of money and not much time, while most Americans are not technically savvy, and they have plenty of time but not much money."

Tom Adams, president of Adams Media Research, said, "The fact is, despite what many on Wall Street seem to think, there is very little digital downloading going on. We're talking about $118 million in 2007 spending, and about $254 million this year - so against a $24 billion packaged-media market it'sreally not making much of a dent at this point."

In the first six months of 2008, consumers spent an estimated $194 million on Blu-ray Disc purchases - a gain of nearly 350% from the $43 million that came from high-definition disc sales (BD and HD DVD combined) the first six months of 2007.

Unit sales of Blu-ray Discs in the first half of 2008 were up 340% from the first six months of 2007, according to Nielsen Videoscan data. Studio stimates peg the number of Blu-ray Discs sold in the first six months of the year at 7.37 million units.

Top BD sellers:

1. I Am Legend 305,000
2. National Treasure: Book of Secrets 145,000
3. No Country for Old Men 137,000
4. 300 133,100
5. 3:10 to Yuma 115,000

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Home Media Magazine, Hollywood goes Hi-def special issue:



dvdtown, And the winner is - Alien vs Predator Requiem:

Top 10 BD, week ending April 20, 2008

Rank Title                           Units
1. * Alien vs. Predator: Requiem    35,100
2. * Juno                           28,700
3.   I Am Legend                    12,600
4. * Predator                        8,100
5.   Alien vs. Predator--2 Pack      7,100
6.   No Country for Old Men          6,000
7.   Over America                    5,300
8. * Before the Devil Knows...       4,500
9.   300                             4,200
10.  Walk Hard: The Dewey Cox Story  3,800

Top 10 BD, week ending April 27, 2008

Rank Title                           Units
1.   Alien vs. Predator: Requiem     8,900 
2.   Juno                            8,300
3.   I Am Legend                     7,700
4.   300                             7,600
5.   Blade Runner                    7,100
5.   Independence Day                7,100
7.   Troy: Director's Cut            6,400
8. * The Orphanage                   5,700
9.   Predator                        5,400
10.  Pan's Labyrinth                 4,800

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Hollywood in Hidef, Blu-ray Sales Surging On All Fronts

More than 4.7 million copies of Blu-ray movies were sold in the first four months of the year in North America alone, a nearly 400% increase over 2007 and nearly half of the 10.8 million sold since inception, according to Home Media Research compiled by the Redhill Group.

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Reuters/Hollywood Reporter, Blu-ray boom not enough to rescue DVD sales

Q1 sales: 3.8 million Blu-ray, 4.9 million total "next-gen movies."

[Grubert]

Sales data for 2007 and before:

Screen Digest, Media-Tech 08 presentation

BD movies sold to consumers in 2007:
US 5,192,000
UK 819,000
France 285,000
Germany 300,000
Italy 157,000
Spain 120,000

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USA Today, DVD feels first sting of slipping sales

No. of discs sold in 2007:

Blu-ray: 5.7 million (64% or $172.8 million)
HD DVD: 3.2 million (36% or $97.2 million)

Discs sold since inception:

Blu-ray: 6.1 million (62%)
HD DVD: 3.7 million (38%)

Top-selling high-definition discs of 2007 (through 12/30/07)
1. 300 (Blu-ray/Warner): 472,400
2. Planet Earth: The Complete Series (both formats/BBC Video): 294,300
3. Transformers (HD DVD/Paramount/DreamWorks): 239,100
4. Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End (Blu-ray/Disney): 219,300
5. Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix (both/Warner): 179,500
6. The Departed (both/Warner): 171,800
7. Casino Royale (Blu-ray/Sony): 169,800
8. Bourne Ultimatum (HD DVD/Universal): 162,300
9. Spider-Man 3 (Blu-ray/Sony): 145,300
10. Ratatouille (Blu-ray/Disney): 117,500

For reference, consumers spent $16 billion buying DVDs, about $600 million less than in 2006. Hollywood shipped 1.7 billion discs — about 30 million more than in 2006.


Video Business, Third Pirates sells 8 million units in first week

First week sales in North America: 8 million copies on DVD, 160,000 on Blu-ray.


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Video Business, Spidey 3 top Blu-ray seller for Sony

Spider-Man sold 130,000 high-def units in its first six days on shelves, according to Sony. Sales span U.S. and Canada, and include a relatively small amount of titles sold into the rental channel, added the studio. It shipped about 400,000 Spider-Man 3 Blu-ray units to retail. Sony said that does not include units bundled with the new $399 PlayStation 3.

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Watch Impress, report of BD event

YTD sales as of October 21, 2007

1. 300 243,400
2. Casino Royale 127,300
3. 300 126,800
4. Transformers 112,300
5. The Departed 83,800
6. PotC: DMC 78,700
7. Planet Earth 70,900
8. PotC: CBP 70,000
9. Planet Earth 68,400
10. Apocalypto 62,900


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Deadline Hollywood Daily, Blu-ray/HD DVD: Which Hollywood Studio Is Accused Of 'Big Ass, Fat, Stupid Lie'?

Transformers HD-DVD
Week Ending 10/21/07 = 89,871 Units (First Week sales as reported in VideoScan First Alert)
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300 HD-DVD/DVD Combo Pack
Week Ending 8/5/07 = 56,191 Units (First Week sales as reported in VideoScan First Alert)
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300 Blu-ray
Week Ending 8/5/07 = 107,351 Units (First Week sales as reported in VideoScan First Alert)

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Home Media Magazine, Blu-ray Maintains Edge Despite 'Tranformers'
Paramount says Transformers sold 190,000 units its first week in stores, but Home Media Magazine market research and studio estimates puts the actual number of units that sold through to consumers closer to 115,000.


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Paramount press release

Transformers HD DVD sales: 100,000 first day, 190,000 first week. SD DVD sales 8.3 million first week.


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Reuters, Blu-ray outsells HD-DVD in U.S. for first 9 months

US sales per Home Media Research:
Jan 1 - Sep 30: Blu-ray 2.6 million units, HD DVD 1.4 million units
Since inception to Sep 30: Blu-ray 3.01 million units, HD DVD 1.97 million units


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Dreamworks/Paramount Transformers press release

Transformers DVD sales: 4.5 million units first day, 8.3 million units first week
Transformers HD DVD sales: 100,000 units first day, 190,000 units first week


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BDA presentation during IFA



Horizontal lines represent 20,000 units sold.


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HMM special issue, Hollywood goes hi-def (published September 2, 2007)

Top 20 YTD through August 5, 2007:
Where applicable aggregated sales are included in parentheses (BD+HD DVD)

High-def sellers (both formats)

1. 300 134,200
2. Casino Royale 107,000
3. The Departed 73,300
4. 300 70,200
5. POTC: DMC 54,500
6. Planet Earth 52,900
7. POTC: COTBP 47,600
8. Apocalypto 45,900
9. Ghost Rider 45,200
10. Planet Earth 44,700
11. The Departed 43,000
12. The Prestige 40,100
13. Night at the Museum 37,900
14. Batman Begins 36,400
15. Déjà Vu 33,200
16. Happy Feet 32,000
17. Crank 29,100
18. Black Hawk Down 28,600
19. Superman Returns 27,800
20. The Fifth Element 26,800

High-def sellers, aggregate by title

1. 300 204,400 (134,200+70,200)
2. The Departed 116,300 (73,300+43,000)
3. Casino Royale 107,000
4. Planet Earth 97,600 (44,700+52,900)
5. POTC: DMC 54,500
6. Happy Feet 51,300 (32,000+19,400)
7. POTC: COTBP 47,600
8. Apocalypto 45,900
9. Ghost Rider 45,200
10. Superman Returns 43,200 (27,800+15,300)
11. The Prestige 40,100
12. Night at the Museum 37,900
13. Batman Begins 36,400
14. Goodfellas 34,400 (17,300+17,100)
15. Déjà Vu 33,200
16. Letters from Iwo Jima 32,800 (20,200+12,600)
17. Babel 31,000 (16,400+14,600)
18. Crank 29,100
19. Black Hawk Down 28,600
20. The Fifth Element 26,800

Top 20 Blu-ray:

1. 300 134,200
2. Casino Royale 107,000
3. The Departed 73,300
4. POTC: DMC 54,500
5. POTC: COTBP 47,600
6. Apocalypto 45,900
7. Ghost Rider 45,200
8. Planet Earth 44,700
9. The Prestige 40,100
10. Night at the Museum 37,900
11. Déjà Vu 33,200
12. Happy Feet 32,000
13. Crank 29,100
14. Black Hawk Down 28,600
15. Superman Returns 27,800
16. The Fifth Element 26,800
17. Underworld: Evolution 24,400
18. Eragon 21,700
19. Saw III 21,700
20. X-Men: The Last Stand 21,600

Top 20 HD DVD:

1. 300 70,200
2. Planet Earth 52,900
3. The Departed 43,000
4. Batman Begins 36,400
5. Troy 22,600
6. Smokin' Aces 22,100
7. Happy Feet 19,400
8. Children of Men 18,900
9. Goodfellas 17,100
10. The Ultimate Matrix Collection 15,500
11. Superman Returns 15,300
12. Serenity 15,200
13. V for Vendetta 14,800
14. Babel 14,600
15. The Bourne Supremacy 14,500
16. The Good Shepherd 14,300
17. The Complete Matrix Trilogy 13,800
18. Hot Fuzz 13,000
19. Letters from Iwo Jima 12,600
20. Mission: Impossible III 11,500

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Reuters article, Blu-ray outpaces HD-DVD in U.S.: Home Media Research
Total sales of Blu-ray discs totaled 1.6 million units from January 1 through July 1, compared with 795,000 HD-DVD discs sold in that period.

An estimated 3.7 million high-definition discs have been sold, including 2.2 million in Blu-ray and 1.5 million in HD-DVD through the end of July, according to Home Media.

Stephen Nickerson, senior vice president, market management at Warner Home Video, reported sales of about 190,000 Blu-ray units of 300, versus 97,000 in HD-DVD since July 31.


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HD DVD press release, HD DVD outpacing all next-gen formats in sales growth (released July 17, 2007)



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HMM special issue, Hollywood goes hi-def (published June 17, 2007)

Sales since inception to May 27, 2007: 1,637,090 Blu-ray/1,192,410 HD DVD
(data from HMM market research)



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HMM article, Blu-ray wins Q1 (published April 22, 2007)

Sales between Jan. 1 and March 31: 832,530 Blu-ray/359,300 HD DVDs
Since inception to March 31, 2007: 1.2 million Blu-ray/937,500 HD DVDs.
March: 335,980 Blu-ray; 119,570 HD DVDs.
(data from HMM market research)



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Nielsen VideoScan report up to March 18

Sales in 2006: 297,041 Blu-ray/462,562 HD DVD
Sales since inception to March 18: 846,771 Blu-ray/712,013 HD DVD
(data from Nielsen VideoScan)

[Elandyll]

I know this is a wish of us all, and would have it been released in our format of choice it would have been, but in your YTD/ Oct. 21 numbers you indicate Transformers as being Blu

[Grubert]

Originally Posted by Elandyll

I know this is a wish of us all, and would have it been released in our format of choice it would have been, but in your YTD/ Oct. 21 numbers you indicate Transformers as being Blu

Oops. Corrected.

Nielsen VideoScan market share Feb 17 - May 4, 2008:

Nielsen/VideoScan Numbers ending May 4th

http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/ques...7BVM/index.php

WE: BD-100% HDD-0% ?


Nielsen/VideoScan Numbers ending April 27th

http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/ques...1WCV/index.php

WE: BD-93% HDD-7%


Nielsen/VideoScan Numbers ending April 20th

http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/ques...T/?startpage=1

WE: BD-91% HDD-9% YTD: BD---% HDD---% SI: BD-68% HDD-32%


Nielsen/VideoScan Numbers ending April 13th

http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/ques...2008/index.php

WE: BD-86% HDD-14% YTD: BD---% HDD---% SI: BD-67% HDD-33%


Nielsen/VideoScan Numbers ending April 6th

http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/ques...1308/index.php

WE: BD-64% HDD-36% YTD: BD---% HDD---% SI: BD-67% HDD-33%


Nielsen/VideoScan Numbers ending March 30th

http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/ques...0608/index.php

WE: BD-84% HDD-16% YTD: BD---% HDD---% SI: BD-67% HDD-33%


Nielsen/VideoScan Numbers ending March 23th

http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/ques...3008/index.php

WE: BD-88% HDD-12% YTD: BD---% HDD---% SI: BD-67% HDD-33%


Nielsen/VideoScan Numbers ending March 16th

http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/ques...2308/index.php

WE: BD-78% HDD-22% YTD: BD-76% HDD-24% SI: BD-66% HDD-34%


Nielsen/VideoScan Numbers ending March 9th

http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/ques...1608/index.php

WE: BD-65% HDD-35% YTD: BD-75% HDD-25% SI: BD-66% HDD-34%


Nielsen/VideoScan Numbers ending March 2nd

http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/ques...0908/index.php

WE: BD-75% HDD-25% YTD: BD-76% HDD-24% SI: BD-66% HDD-34%


Nielsen/VideoScan Numbers ending February 24th

http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/ques...0208/index.php

WE: BD-77% HDD-23% YTD: BD-76% HDD-24% SI: BD-65% HDD-35%


Nielsen/VideoScan Numbers ending February 17th *

http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/ques...2408/index.php

WE: BD-73% HDD-27% YTD: BD-76% HDD-24% SI: BD-65% HDD-35%


*Note: Archived Nielsen numbers (from 08.04.07 to 10.02.08) can be found at this link

[Neo65]

The ability to track the sales is really the only serious exercise left to those of us who have a hobby of analyzing the HDM war business strategies and their results.

To take away that ability is unfortunate.

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A few additions :
1. Assuming roughly 3800+4900 sales from last two weeks alone. 300-BD would have sold 251,500 as of the week ending Nov 4th. This means 300-BD has sold more than a quarter million disks. Champagne corks should be popping for those of us who really want HDM to succeed. Any milestone is worth a hearty celebration. Each of the 100ks is a milestone, but each quarter million sales is worthy of more fireworks.!!

2. Spidey3 outsold CR YTD in week1 at 130k and takes over that slot.

3. TF is likely 115k + 38k + 29k, crossing 182k, not only making it HD DVD's leader by far, also placing it between 300-BD and Spidey3 in the combined list. Spidey3 could be gunning for TF's spot for the week ending Nov 11th.

Other than that, I'm really hoping we have a few titles cross 500k total by end of the year, but for that to happen, the movie sales really have to pick up through xmas '07, and player sales (including PS3s) really have to pick up quickly to increase installed based of hdm players, so the key is for the advertisers to get the customers focused on why they want to buy their HDM player as opposed to why they should not buy the other player.

The movies and players have to be made desirable and people really have to want to buy into HDM or this will all be for nothing.

[Neo65]

I wonder if we can have this thread be the one that tracks total units sold of the top 10/20 disks.

Hopefully, the numbers are vetted first and then links on source of the numbers post oct21 are taken into account.

[Seretur]

Grubert, thanks for taking the effort to do all this!

I think it should be a sticky thread.

[blitz6speed]

Blu-Ray.com loves Grubert!

[The Big Blue]

Great work.

Has anyone ever put together a list of all dual format Warner titles?

[Grubert]

Originally Posted by The Big Blue

Great work.

Has anyone ever put together a list of all dual format Warner titles?

Here you have sales information for day-and-date titles released on both formats (including Warner titles).

Unfortunately, catalog releases rarely make the charts, so we don't have sales information on them.

[gand41f]

Fantastic stuff. You're the king, Grubert.

Do you have any information on DVD sales? I'm trying to compile a list of DVD/high-def ratio but am having a hard time getting the DVD numbers. The estimate in your first link that puts the SM3 numbers at 4-5 million is the first I could find for this title. (Now to the obligatory question -- does this include the Trilogy? )

I think watching the DVD/high-def ratio change over the months would be a good indication of each format's "growth".

enjoy
gandalf

[Clark Kent]

Grubert is a fountain of clarity and truth in a sea of FUD. Your thread on the other forum just had too much concrete information and facts in it for them to let it continue. It was beginning to affect their marketing plans to the uninformed.

[Neo65]

Mods,

Can we make this a sticky? There should be a thread that tracks the actual units of disk sales for the top titles, and it is important for historical accuracy to say that this is how it happened, and we were here as witnesses to history!

[Joe Cain]

Originally Posted by Neo65

Mods,

Can we make this a sticky? There should be a thread that tracks the actual units of disk sales for the top titles, and it is important for historical accuracy to say that this is how it happened, and we were here as witnesses to history!

+1. I figure it's just a matter of time before stickification, but for the record I'll cast my vote in favor.

[esteban2]

Thanks for putting the data together, but to me most of this is "old news", in the sense that everyone knows that BD clearly out-sold HD-DVD, by about 2 to 1, up through August.

Of course since then major events have taken place, like the Paramount/DW switch, the big drop in player prices, the release of some very big titles like spiderman 3 and transformers, most of which would seem to favor HD-DVD.

So Q4 will tell a big tale. If BD is still out-selling HD-DVD by 2-1 or thereabouts despite Paramount and despite the cut-rate player sales, then HD's days are probably numbered.

[Chris Beveridge]

Stickied for our pleasure.

[Joe Cain]

Originally Posted by Chris Beveridge

Stickied for our pleasure.

...mmm...sticky pleasure...

[gand41f]

POTC3 BD 160k in first week

The article also mentions that DVD sold 8 million copies.

enjoy
gandalf

[Klitschko]

Originally Posted by Neo65

The ability to track the sales is really the only serious exercise left to those of us who have a hobby of analyzing the HDM war business strategies and their results.

To take away that ability is unfortunate.

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A few additions :
1. Assuming roughly 3800+4900 sales from last two weeks alone. 300-BD would have sold 251,500 as of the week ending Nov 4th. This means 300-BD has sold more than a quarter million disks. Champagne corks should be popping for those of us who really want HDM to succeed. Any milestone is worth a hearty celebration. Each of the 100ks is a milestone, but each quarter million sales is worthy of more fireworks.!!

2. Spidey3 outsold CR YTD in week1 at 130k and takes over that slot.

3. TF is likely 115k + 38k + 29k, crossing 182k, not only making it HD DVD's leader by far, also placing it between 300-BD and Spidey3 in the combined list. Spidey3 could be gunning for TF's spot for the week ending Nov 11th.

Other than that, I'm really hoping we have a few titles cross 500k total by end of the year, but for that to happen, the movie sales really have to pick up through xmas '07, and player sales (including PS3s) really have to pick up quickly to increase installed based of hdm players, so the key is for the advertisers to get the customers focused on why they want to buy their HDM player as opposed to why they should not buy the other player.

The movies and players have to be made desirable and people really have to want to buy into HDM or this will all be for nothing.

Sm3 is in the 399.00 ps3. That should b noted.