81:19 Nielsen/VideoScan Weekly Sales Numbers

[phloyd]

Originally Posted by nhaase

Also, Casino Royale was the 3rd-best selling high def title this week.

This is a sign of new hardware sales.

Just as Batman Begins sales is a sign of HD DVD hardware sales.

[MatrixS2000]

Originally Posted by BTBuck1

as long as your player works.

So current owners probably bought a "backup copy" at the fire sale....lol

[johnnyd1]

Originally Posted by goodstuff

Yep, tell that to my laserdiscs

Same here.

[WriteSimply]

Originally Posted by babyBlu

I guess they came out early this week, usually have to wait until the afternoon(west coast time).

This was posted by Grubert at AVS:

Top 10 hidef sellers

1 (1) Ghost Rider BD 100.00
2 (-) Bridge to Terabithia BD 84.65
3 (8) Casino Royale BD 59.46
4 (2) Planet Earth HD 43.03
5 (4) Apocalypto BD 35.65
6 (5) PotC DMC BD 34.14
7 (6) Planet Earth BD 33.51
8 (7) PotC CBP BD 28.53
9 (-) Open Season BD 23.10
10 (3) Breach 22.71

xx Letters from Iwo Jima BD 14.80
xx Batman Begins HD 13.50
xx Letters from Iwo Jima HD 10.96
xx Complete Matrix Trilogy HD 9.01

Am I reading this right? Is this for last week's number where BtT was the only BD to be released?

When will the numbers for that massive HD-DVD-Super Tuesday titles going to be released then?


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[The Don]

Originally Posted by WriteSimply

Am I reading this right? Is this for last week's number where BtT was the only BD to be released?

When will the numbers for that massive HD-DVD-Super Tuesday titles going to be released then?


fuad

I think that is next friday...

[phloyd]

Next Friday will be interesting...

So Open Season outsells Batman Begins by 70%.

What does that mean!?!

Also, the top 5 BD sellers are BD exclusive. I know what that means

[dialog_gvf]

Originally Posted by babyBlu

Top 10 hidef sellers

1 (1) Ghost Rider BD 100.00
2 (-) Bridge to Terabithia BD 84.65
3 (8) Casino Royale BD 59.46
4 (2) Planet Earth HD 43.03
5 (4) Apocalypto BD 35.65
6 (5) PotC DMC BD 34.14
7 (6) Planet Earth BD 33.51
8 (7) PotC CBP BD 28.53
9 (-) Open Season BD 23.10
10 (3) Breach 22.71

xx Letters from Iwo Jima BD 14.80
xx Batman Begins HD 13.50
xx Letters from Iwo Jima HD 10.96
xx Complete Matrix Trilogy HD 9.01

Those seem to indicate massive renewed interest in BD. Given all the newer stuff available, I wouldn't have expected such high numbers.

Casino Royale managed 60% of Ghost Rider sales for the week. Amazing!

[Longshot]

Casino Royale must be right at 100,000 copies sold to consumers. I wonder if Sony will make a big announcement about this.

[ra1024]

Originally Posted by Scorxpion

We have The Patriot ,the Untouchables, and Black Snake Moan and more in the two coming weeks so i dont think Universal with their old catalog titles can do anything.

Well what I was getting at is this is as good a week as HD DVD could have with a very lopsided release schedule in their favor. If they can't improve at least the weekly sales percentage this soon after their big player sale, they have no chance of hanging on.

[GaS]

Originally Posted by dialog_gvf

Those seem to indicate massive renewed interest in BD. Given all the newer stuff available, I wouldn't have expected such high numbers.

Casino Royale managed 60% of Ghost Rider sales for the week. Amazing!

Casino's resurgance really is a great sign.

[whippersnapper]

Originally Posted by GaS

Casino's resurgance really is a great sign.

And I hope that all the makers of Blu-ray discs will notice that quality HD transfer of good movies sells.

[dakota81]

You know the only sad thing about these sales figures are, is that between Sony, Fox, Disney, & MGM, if they could just work out *one* more hit title released per month - that's *one* hit from among 4 studios - we might just be seeing a consistent 75-80% sales lead.

[NutsAboutPS3]

Originally Posted by babyBlu

1 (1) Ghost Rider BD 100.00
2 (-) Bridge to Terabithia BD 84.65
3 (8) Casino Royale BD 59.46
4 (2) Planet Earth HD 43.03
5 (4) Apocalypto BD 35.65
6 (5) PotC DMC BD 34.14
7 (6) Planet Earth BD 33.51
8 (7) PotC CBP BD 28.53
9 (-) Open Season BD 23.10
10 (3) Breach 22.71

xx Letters from Iwo Jima BD 14.80
xx Batman Begins HD 13.50
xx Letters from Iwo Jima HD 10.96
xx Complete Matrix Trilogy HD 9.01

TBH it's hard to see how HD-DVD manages 30% of the total sales, so convincing is Blu-ray's dominance of those figures. I wonder if they work out the %s by value rather than number of items, so PE counts particularly highly?

[Deciazulado]

Originally Posted by NutsAboutPS3

TBH it's hard to see how HD-DVD manages 30% of the total sales, so convincing is Blu-ray's dominance of those figures. I wonder if they work out the %s by value rather than number of items, so PE counts particularly highly?

You bring an interesting point.

If you add the sales of the top 10 you have BD 399.04 vs HD DVD 65.74 which normalized to 100 = BD 100.00 vs HD DVD 16.48 which implies a 86/14 ratio.

If we include the four xx titles below too, the numbers are BD 413.84 vs HD DVD 99.21 which normalized to 100 = BD 100.00 vs HD DVD 23.97 which implies a 81/19 ratio.

[nhaase]

Originally Posted by Deciazulado

You bring an interesting point.

If you add the sales of the top 10 you have BD 399.04 vs HD DVD 65.74 which normalized to 100 = BD 100.00 vs HD DVD 16.48 which implies a 86/14 ratio.

If we include the four xx titles below too, the numbers are BD 413.84 vs HD DVD 99.21 which normalized to 100 = BD 100.00 vs HD DVD 23.97 which implies a 81/19 ratio.

Well, remember that Uni is putting out a ton of crap, so while no single one of those titles may be selling well enough to go into the top 10, these "current" releases would add up to something.

I'd suggest adding up the top 5 for each format, then normalizing like you did. I would, but I'm still working.

[aaronwt]

How do you find out what amounts are being sold? All I see is Ghost rider sold the most and Bridge sold 85% of that. But how many copies were sold? If it's only a few thousand then thats not good. Of course it would be even worse for HD DVD.

[nhaase]

To follow up my recent suggestion:

Top 5 BD total index: 313.90
Top 5 HD total index: 230.59 (ouch, this hasn't even been normalized yet!)

Adjusted HD index: 230.59*0.4303 = 99.222877

Normalized top 5 BD: 313.90*100/313.90 = 100.00 (I like the justified look)
Normalized top 5 HD: 99.223*100/313.90 = 31.6097

100.00 + 31.61 = 131.61

(100.00/131.61)*100 = 75.98
(031.61/131.61)*100 = 24.02

So there you go, 75/25 BD/HD for the week when you look at each format's top 5. If we look at Deci's work, we see that the numbers start getting closer to the 70/30 we see on the weekly pie. As I said earlier, the sheer volume of newer releases by Uni (no matter that the quality is crappy almost across the board) will account for some sales.

Please correct my math if I messed up anywhere.

I really like that 75/25 ratio for the top 5, it's a clean 3:1. While they don't show the whole reality of the situation, these numbers show that there is much more desire for BD, especially in the titles that "matter."

[Deciazulado]

Yeah your numbers for the top 5 are correct (I did the same math with the overall top-10 selling discs) (And added the 4 xx tra discs mentioned as they had 3 more hd dvds there to see if that helped much hd dvd ).

Would be nice to do it with the Top 10 for each format too (or the top 20)

In any case hd dvd sold more than BD for about 8 months, (2 of which, where there were no BDs to "compete") and BD has sold more than hd dvd continually non-stop for more than 6 months now and pretty soon it'll pass the 8 months mark, etc etc. and soon after we'll be able to say BDs have sold continually more than hd dvd for over a year, etc. And those 8 proto-months will be far away.

[phloyd]

The Since Inception equality was right around the end of January.

Since then, HD DVD has been losing pretty much every metric.

This week with 14 catalogue releases is their best chance to win a week. I somehow doubt they will.

[LeoneFan]

Older releases like Casino Royale selling like crazy is an awesome indicator of new Blu-ray owners. This is absolutely great. FOX And MGM have to start releasing some titles to push the lead even further.