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Old 07-31-2015, 12:32 AM   #1441
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the very first Noir (at least considered to be anyway) Stranger on the Third Floor
Some have made a case for Fritz Lang's You Only Live Once (1937), although others would put it in the/a 'proto-noir' category with Lang's The Fury (1936).
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Old 07-31-2015, 12:47 AM   #1442
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Yuck. TT over BFI?
As a matter of fact - yes ! I support USA labels and have no problem ordering a TT title
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Old 07-31-2015, 02:54 AM   #1443
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Seen some really good noir lately. Kansas City Confidential was solid, Pitfall was good, and The Big Clock was great.
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Old 07-31-2015, 07:42 PM   #1444
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I just saw this chart today (from BFI) and thought it was interesting:

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Old 07-31-2015, 08:22 PM   #1445
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I just saw this chart today (from BFI) and thought it was interesting:

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That is pretty badass
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Old 08-01-2015, 03:49 AM   #1446
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I saw Criss Cross tonight on TCM's last Summer of Noir. Wow, the transfer looks great. I hope it makes it onto Blu some day.
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Old 08-01-2015, 03:59 AM   #1447
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I saw Criss Cross tonight on TCM's last Summer of Noir. Wow, the transfer looks great. I hope it makes it onto Blu some day.
I was able to see it at a arthouse theatre in Vancouver in a double feature with The Big Sleep a couple of years ago. Criss Cross had a great print, the scene with the heist and all the gas looked so cool.
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Old 08-01-2015, 04:19 AM   #1448
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Ill throw in Murder My Sweet, The Set Up, Out of the Past, Gun Crazy, Fallen Angel, Nightmare Alley and the very first Noir (at least considered to be anyway) Stranger on the Third Floor
None of those on Blu
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Old 08-01-2015, 04:53 AM   #1449
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Ill throw in Murder My Sweet, The Set Up, Out of the Past, Gun Crazy, Fallen Angel, Nightmare Alley and the very first Noir (at least considered to be anyway) Stranger on the Third Floor
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None of those on Blu
Out of the Past is on blu through Warner and Fallen Angel will be coming soon but the fact Murder, My Sweet is not yet really gets me '

As a matter of fact that whole Vol. 1 Noir Pack from the DVD's days needs to get upgraded to blu...it contained the four titles in bold above plus The Asphalt Jungle.

EDIT: Actually Gun Crazy is out on blu in France too I believe.
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Old 08-01-2015, 04:59 AM   #1450
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The Maltese Falcon (41)
Double Indemnity
Touch of Evil
Ride on the Pink Horse
The Killers
The Killing
Night of the Hunter
Sunset Boulevard

And then go from there.
Are there any other from Criterion that you recommend since the sale is going on for a few more days?
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Old 08-01-2015, 05:04 AM   #1451
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Are there any other from Criterion that you recommend since the sale is going on for a few more days?
Definitely. Kiss Me Deadly, M, and Sweet Smell of Success.

Rififi is pretty good too but I was not all that thrilled with Odd Man Out. It was great from a visual stand point, but narrative wise, it was 30 minutes way too long.
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Old 08-01-2015, 05:08 AM   #1452
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Definitely. Kiss Me Deadly, M, and Sweet Smell of Success.

Rififi is pretty good too but I was not all that thrilled with Odd Man Out. It was great from a visual stand point, but narrative wise, it was 30 minutes way too long.
I second these and Fritz Lang's Ministry of Fear I would highly recommend...great release from Criterion for that title as well.
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Old 08-01-2015, 05:11 AM   #1453
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Definitely. Kiss Me Deadly, M, and Sweet Smell of Success.

Rififi is pretty good too but I was not all that thrilled with Odd Man Out. It was great from a visual stand point, but narrative wise, it was 30 minutes way too long.
That is weird says Sweet Smell of Success is unavailable
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Old 08-01-2015, 05:15 AM   #1454
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That is weird says Sweet Smell of Success is unavailable
Strange since I just bought it. Are you online or buying from a physical store?
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Strange since I just bought it. Are you online or buying from a physical store?
Looking online
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Old 08-01-2015, 06:04 AM   #1456
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http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/dvd-...=0715515067911
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Old 08-01-2015, 06:31 AM   #1457
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I just saw this chart today (from BFI) and thought it was interesting:

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Very cool. Really glad to see Force of Evil on that list. Doesn't get mentioned much but one of the best noirs I have ever seen, in my top 10 for sure.
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Old 08-01-2015, 03:29 PM   #1458
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I found an early copy of the Criterion Blu-ray of Night and the City on sale at a local store yesterday. I watched the feature last night, and enjoyed going through the extras this morning. This is a fantastic upgrade over the old Criterion DVD, and it is my favorite Criterion release of 2015 so far.

A few words about the release that I'm double-posting from the Criterion thread...



Harry Fabian, played with frenzied exuberance by Richard Widmark, is a small-time hustler with dreams of grandeur that enable him to blast his way from one hopeless scheme to another in postwar London. Fabian's beautiful romantic interest, played by the one and only Gene Tierney, is exasperated with her futile attempts to keep him grounded and steer him into a life of honest hard work, but she continues to bail him out, despite the cautionary advice of her protective neighbor, Adam, who describes Fabian as "an artist without an art" whose quest for the big time could prove to be dangerous.

One night, as Fabian is pulling cons to lure customers into a nightclub run by his sometime partners, Philip (Francis L. Sullivan) and Philip's scheming wife, Helen (Googie Withers), he senses a golden opportunity when he witnesses an argument at a wrestling match between a prominent gangster, Kristo (Herbert Lom) and Kristo's father, Gregorius (Stanislaus Zbyszko), who wishes to keep the wrestling free from the "clowns" who have turned the integrity and art of the sport into a circus. Fabian devises a plan to earn a fortune as a wrestling host, but the particulars of his new enterprise threaten to drag everyone else down with him.

Film noir, a term coined by a French critic and translated as "black film", finds one of its blackest examples in Jules Dassin's 1950 entry, Night and the City. The bombed-out Soho district of London is a shadowy villain in itself, and a handful of chase sequences stand up to Carol Reed's dark vision of Vienna in The Third Man, which was released the previous year. The characters of this seedy setting have few redeeming qualities, and one of the movie's dark charms is its ability to keep us viewers fascinated while the figurative walls close in around these people as they each lose control and become tired of running from their inevitable fates.

This Criterion Blu-ray of Night and the City includes the bleak American version, which was Dassin's preferred cut and my own personal favorite cut, and an alternate British version, which utilizes different sequence edits and a different score to present a slightly less cynical incarnation of the story. To watch both of these versions is to gain an appreciation of how music and editing can significantly alter the tone of a movie.

The picture quality of this Blu-ray is exceptional, and I consider Night and the City to be another shining example of how Criterion can bring a new life to black-and-white classics with their high definition presentations. The audio quality is also impressive, and we get the best of both the Franz Waxman score in the American version and the Benjamin Frankel score in the British version.

The commentary from DVD Savant critic, Glenn Erickson, is informative and fun. A handful of supplements, namely a 2004 interview with Jules Dassin and a comparison of the American and British versions of the film, are also engaging.

This Criterion presentation of Night and the City has my highest recommendation. It's a tough sell to interest people in the plight of a lowlife schemer who ends up in waters that go over his head, but the role of Harry Fabian is one of Richard Widmark's finest roles and his magnetic abilities draw us in, especially during the final moments, when the character makes a heartbreaking attempt at redemption.
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Old 08-01-2015, 07:59 PM   #1459
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Nice post Owl, thank you. My copy arrives Tuesday. Owned the Criterion DVD and the German BR import, which looked good. I've grown more fond of this noir the more I view it. Great review sir. Can't wait to watch it.....again.
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Old 08-02-2015, 03:57 PM   #1460
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Well, I took the final exam for the Summer of Darkness class. I got a 38/40, and I am more than okay with that because I didn't have the chance to study and was going strictly off of memory. I kind of zoned out these last two weeks, though, and that makes me feel a little bad. Still, I'm happy to get a certificate. Either today or tomorrow I'll watch the interview with Eddie Muller as I missed that on Thursday.
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