James Bond: The Ultimate Collection (1962-2012) + Volume Collections - Page 155 - Blu-ray Forum

Galactus123 · 08-13-2019, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

Absolutely agree and neither is A View to a Kill.

I liked A View to a Kill. I had heard bad things about it but I enjoyed it. It had great action scenes. Christopher Walken could have been better as the bad guy.

HD Goofnut · 08-13-2019, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Galactus123

I liked A View to a Kill. I had heard bad things about it but I enjoyed it. It had great action scenes. Christopher Walken could have been better as the bad guy.

That's exactly what's wrong with it. Walken's character was poorly written.

Mister_Kidd · 08-13-2019, 01:52 PM

Grace Jones and Tanya Roberts are both terrible actors and Roger Moore was way too old to still be playing Bond.

For my money, it is Moore's worst turn at Bond and neck and neck with Die Another Day for worst Bond ever.

Big fan of the Duran Duran song, though.

imsounoriginal · 08-13-2019, 01:53 PM

Love me some AVTAK. Guilty pleasure, sure, but it's fun when you clock it as an 80s remake of Goldfinger.

baheidstu · 08-13-2019, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

That's exactly what's wrong with it. Walken's character was poorly written.

Walken is one of the best things in A View To A Kill. Sinister without devolving into the hammy joke he became in his later years.

MJD64 · 08-13-2019, 02:23 PM

A big part of what sinks A VIEW TO A KILL for me is the utterly dreadful Tanya Roberts as Stacy Sutton. I know many of my fellow Bond enthusiasts have a field day joking about the credibility of casting Denise Richards as a nuclear physicist, but not a whisper about this vacuous mannequin playing a geologist?

I keep meaning to have some friends over for a drinking game where we have to take a shot every time a wide-eyed Roberts laughably yells "James!" in the latter half of the movie - we'll all be sufficiently blotto or passed out long before the end credits roll...

baheidstu · 08-13-2019, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by MJD64

A big part of what sinks A VIEW TO A KILL for me is the utterly dreadful Tanya Roberts as Stacy Sutton. I know many of my fellow Bond enthusiasts have a field day joking about the credibility of casting Denise Richards as a nuclear physicist, but not a whisper about this vacuous mannequin playing a geologist?

I keep meaning to have some friends over for a drinking game where we have to take a shot every time a wide-eyed Roberts laughably yells "James!" in the latter half of the movie - we'll all be sufficiently blotto or passed out long before the end credits roll...

That, or any variation of Bond saying "Stacy, give me your hand".

Galactus123 · 08-15-2019, 03:03 PM

I also watched the Timothy Dalton movies for the first time. The Living Daylights is probably one of the best movies in the series. Definitely in the top 10. Both had great action scenes. Now I have seen all the Bond movies.

Monterey Jack · 08-15-2019, 03:21 PM

To this day, the biggest lost opportunity in the series is that Dalton didn't get to make two more Bond films in the early 90s due to the behind-the-scenes legal bullshit.

Half the reason people still talk smack about Dalton is that he did only two, using that as "proof" that audiences didn't like him.

grrrarg · 08-15-2019, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by MJD64

A big part of what sinks A VIEW TO A KILL for me is the utterly dreadful Tanya Roberts as Stacy Sutton. I know many of my fellow Bond enthusiasts have a field day joking about the credibility of casting Denise Richards as a nuclear physicist, but not a whisper about this vacuous mannequin playing a geologist?

How dare you talk about vacuous mannequins that way.

Tanya Roberts is a delightful thespian!

spudeus · 08-15-2019, 05:43 PM

View to a Kill's plot made little sense, but Bond films are defined by the villain and I thought Walken was pretty darned sinister in that role. Grace was there for her physical presence. Tanya . . well, geology's not a real science! Reminds me, I need to get a copy of her version of Sheena

CreasyBear · 08-15-2019, 06:41 PM

Parts of AVTAK feel like a big budget episode of Matlock. Moore, I love him, but he was definitely too old by 1985. I still enjoy the film, as I do all Bond's, but it's definitely among the worst of the series. It's also probably the most dull Bond film from a visual standpoint.

StingingVelvet · 08-15-2019, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by CreasyBear

Parts of AVTAK feel like a big budget episode of Matlock. Moore, I love him, but he was definitely too old by 1985. I still enjoy the film, as I do all Bond's, but it's definitely among the worst of the series. It's also probably the most dull Bond film from a visual standpoint.

It's probably the worst from a filmmaking perspective I'd say. Some people dislike Diamonds are Forever or Golden Gun more because of story issues and whatnot, but View to a Kill is the worst made movie of them all. Though I still love it because I'm weird.

Lazarus Dark · 08-17-2019, 03:42 AM

Grew up watching Bond on tv with my dad. Owned the first three Brosnan films on DVD. Then I got the big photo album style full Blu-ray collection (through QoS at the time). I watched all the films over the course of 4 or 5 years. Barely managed to get through the Moore and Dalton films. Even having grown up with them, they are really hard to watch now, so much racism and sexism and just dated attitudes and behaviors. Funny, Roger Moore was always my favorite, up to the Daniel Craig era, but now I find them the hardest to watch. Maybe it's just the 70s I can't stand. I don't recall ever actually seeing the Dalton films before, I found I really liked Dalton as Bond, a lot, but his films we're the worst plots of any bond films, why is a super spy fighting drug dealers? Felt like a step down. GoldenEye was every bit as awesome as I remembered (I really want to play GoldenEye 64 now), and I was amazed at how self aware it was. Then they went sharply downhill from there. Finally, I gave away my collectors book to my dad, figured he'd get more use as I don't plan to watch the old ones ever again. I am really glad they decided to release the Craig films as a 4k set, I will definitely nab that. And maybe GoldenEye 4k if they ever release it solo. I would say to anyone, the Connery films are all worth watching at least once in life, and GoldenEye and the Craig films are worth owning, but despite thier place in film history, I'm not sure the others are worth anyone's time anymore.

Dailyan · 08-17-2019, 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Lazarus Dark

I don't recall ever actually seeing the Dalton films before, I found I really liked Dalton as Bond, a lot, but his films we're the worst plots of any bond films, why is a super spy fighting drug dealers? Felt like a step down.

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glennstl · 08-17-2019, 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by jdw89

Where did you find them at if you don't mind my asking? Were they all brand new?

I got them all from one seller as a set. About 15 of them had never even been opened. They take up a lot of shelf space... but all the Bond movies plus Never Say Never Again for $44 ... not sure how I got that lucky.

jonam · 08-20-2019, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by StingingVelvet

It's probably the worst from a filmmaking perspective I'd say. Some people dislike Diamonds are Forever or Golden Gun more because of story issues and whatnot, but View to a Kill is the worst made movie of them all. Though I still love it because I'm weird.

No way. Die Another Day is the worst Bond movie full stop. Never seen such trite. And this is coming from a major Bond fan. Atrocious special effects which are a disgrace to the Bond lore considering how most of the stunts were done for real back in the day.

So disappointed when I saw it in the theatres back in 2002 and to think it was the movie that celebrated the 40th Anniversary. Three of the other Bonds attended the Royal Premiere too. I wonder what Dalton was thinking?

Sad that Brosnan had to finish his tenure with this dud.

I just don't know why they did not keep Will Yun Lee as Colonel Moon as the central villain instead of resorting to all that DNA nonsense.

levcore · 08-20-2019, 12:35 PM

Die Another Day is great fun. At least it's not boring unlike, say Spectre zzzzzzzzz

jonam · 08-20-2019, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by levcore

Die Another Day is great fun. At least it's not boring unlike, say Spectre zzzzzzzzz

Spectre could have been better but at least it was grounded.

Galactus123 · 08-20-2019, 02:10 PM

I watched GoldenEye yesterday and it wasn't as good as I remembered. I liked it a lot when I was a kid. The Dalton movies are a lot better.

08-13-2019, 02:23 PM	#3086
MJD64 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jul 2016 Blu-ray collection:847 DVD collection:854	A big part of what sinks A VIEW TO A KILL for me is the utterly dreadful Tanya Roberts as Stacy Sutton. I know many of my fellow Bond enthusiasts have a field day joking about the credibility of casting Denise Richards as a nuclear physicist, but not a whisper about this vacuous mannequin playing a geologist? I keep meaning to have some friends over for a drinking game where we have to take a shot every time a wide-eyed Roberts laughably yells "James!" in the latter half of the movie - we'll all be sufficiently blotto or passed out long before the end credits roll... Last edited by MJD64; 08-13-2019 at 02:30 PM.

08-13-2019, 01:52 PM	#3083
Mister_Kidd Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jun 2019 Location:Chicago Home Theater Gallery:4 4K collection:210 Blu-ray collection:769 DVD collection:299	Grace Jones and Tanya Roberts are both terrible actors and Roger Moore was way too old to still be playing Bond. For my money, it is Moore's worst turn at Bond and neck and neck with Die Another Day for worst Bond ever. Big fan of the Duran Duran song, though.

08-13-2019, 01:53 PM	#3084
imsounoriginal Blu-ray Grand Duke Top contributor Member since:Dec 2008 Location:NYC 4K collection:320 Blu-ray collection:947 DVD collection:70 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:59	Love me some AVTAK. Guilty pleasure, sure, but it's fun when you clock it as an 80s remake of Goldfinger.

08-15-2019, 03:03 PM	#3088
Galactus123 Power Member Top contributor Member since:Apr 2014 Location:Finland Blu-ray collection:174	I also watched the Timothy Dalton movies for the first time. The Living Daylights is probably one of the best movies in the series. Definitely in the top 10. Both had great action scenes. Now I have seen all the Bond movies.

08-15-2019, 03:21 PM	#3089
Monterey Jack Blu-ray Grand Duke Member since:Oct 2011 Trading Score:710	To this day, the biggest lost opportunity in the series is that Dalton didn't get to make two more Bond films in the early 90s due to the behind-the-scenes legal bullshit. Half the reason people still talk smack about Dalton is that he did only two, using that as "proof" that audiences didn't like him.

08-15-2019, 05:43 PM	#3091
spudeus Senior Member Member since:Apr 2019 Location:near St. Louis, MO 4K collection:345 Blu-ray collection:1206 DVD collection:11 Digital collection:5 Trading Score:40	View to a Kill's plot made little sense, but Bond films are defined by the villain and I thought Walken was pretty darned sinister in that role. Grace was there for her physical presence. Tanya . . well, geology's not a real science! Reminds me, I need to get a copy of her version of Sheena

08-15-2019, 06:41 PM	#3092
CreasyBear Blu-ray Count Member since:Apr 2019 Trading Score:115	Parts of AVTAK feel like a big budget episode of Matlock. Moore, I love him, but he was definitely too old by 1985. I still enjoy the film, as I do all Bond's, but it's definitely among the worst of the series. It's also probably the most dull Bond film from a visual standpoint.

08-17-2019, 03:42 AM	#3094
Lazarus Dark Member Member since:Feb 2015	Grew up watching Bond on tv with my dad. Owned the first three Brosnan films on DVD. Then I got the big photo album style full Blu-ray collection (through QoS at the time). I watched all the films over the course of 4 or 5 years. Barely managed to get through the Moore and Dalton films. Even having grown up with them, they are really hard to watch now, so much racism and sexism and just dated attitudes and behaviors. Funny, Roger Moore was always my favorite, up to the Daniel Craig era, but now I find them the hardest to watch. Maybe it's just the 70s I can't stand. I don't recall ever actually seeing the Dalton films before, I found I really liked Dalton as Bond, a lot, but his films we're the worst plots of any bond films, why is a super spy fighting drug dealers? Felt like a step down. GoldenEye was every bit as awesome as I remembered (I really want to play GoldenEye 64 now), and I was amazed at how self aware it was. Then they went sharply downhill from there. Finally, I gave away my collectors book to my dad, figured he'd get more use as I don't plan to watch the old ones ever again. I am really glad they decided to release the Craig films as a 4k set, I will definitely nab that. And maybe GoldenEye 4k if they ever release it solo. I would say to anyone, the Connery films are all worth watching at least once in life, and GoldenEye and the Craig films are worth owning, but despite thier place in film history, I'm not sure the others are worth anyone's time anymore.

08-20-2019, 12:35 PM	#3098
levcore Blu-ray Grand Duke Member since:Jun 2011 Location:Dryland 4K collection:306 Blu-ray collection:2617 Trading Score:3	Die Another Day is great fun. At least it's not boring unlike, say Spectre zzzzzzzzz

08-20-2019, 02:10 PM	#3100
Galactus123 Power Member Top contributor Member since:Apr 2014 Location:Finland Blu-ray collection:174	I watched GoldenEye yesterday and it wasn't as good as I remembered. I liked it a lot when I was a kid. The Dalton movies are a lot better.

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