BDs That Are Out of Print (OOP)

[MazeRunner]

Originally Posted by houseca

I don't know... there is Peter Weller (Buckaroo Banzai and Leviathan) and William Petersen (To Live and Die in LA and Manhunter).

Corey has some tough competition.

[dylrichard02]

Originally Posted by houseca

I don't know... there is Peter Weller (Buckaroo Banzai and Leviathan) and William Petersen (To Live and Die in LA and Manhunter).

Corey has some tough competition.

Don't forget Ken Foree with Dawn of the Dead, Army of One, and From Beyond!

[houseca]

Originally Posted by dylrichard02

Don't forget Ken Foree with Dawn of the Dead, Army of One, and From Beyond!

DOTD doesn't really count as an oop in my opinion, since a vastly superior 4K release is available from Second Sight... but I get your point. Love that guy.

[dylrichard02]

Originally Posted by houseca

DOTD doesn't really count as an oop in my opinion, since a vastly superior 4K release is available from Second Sight... but I get your point. Love that guy.

True, I still need to get my hands on that. He's fantastic, the best part of TCM 3 imo.

[meremortal]

Is Antz still in print? Was thinking about this movie earlier and it's sold out on BB and only third party on Amazon.

[ShellBeacher]

Originally Posted by AFFanAttic

There are probably many more Fox titles to list, but Shame is one that I noticed climbing up today. It's a good one, so it's a [bummer] that it likely isn't at all a priority for any reprint.

And also, Velvet Goldmine remains as OOP as it has been for a couple years, but it's not on the list here.

"Velvet Goldmine" will hopefully be re-issued by Paramount in one of these Miramax re-release batches, but who knows?

Yes, folks, if you haven't already, I would pick up whatever 20th Century FOX titles you want on any format.

The 4K combo of this has already become pretty scarce out there [WalMart, Ebay have a couple]. Best Buy put it on sale for $13.99(!) recently and whatever small number of copies they had whooshed right out.



Ford V. Ferrari 4K is also at $13.99 right now at BB!

I expect the rest of the 20th CENTURY FOX recent 4Ks/Blus to disappear the same way in the near future...when stocks run out, without anyone really noticing at first. I spent the last year acquiring what I wanted.

Even if they happen to be re-released on disc...they will be labeled "20th Century Pictures" or [horror] Disney or some zombie revival of 'Buena Vista.'

[James Luckard]

Originally Posted by ShellBeacher

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Ford V. Ferrari 4K is also at $13.99 right now at BB!

Yep, Amazon had a fire sale on Ford v Ferrari UHDs a week or so ago at the same price. All gone now.

They were also clearing out Jojo around the same time, they're out of stock on both BD and UHD for that title now.

[WBMakeVMarsMovieNOW]

Originally Posted by MazeRunner

Corey Haim is the king of oop blus.. License To Drive and Lucas!

great films too
just watched Lucas again a couple days ago (I bet he gets the girl in the end, a few years later, just the way in real life they switched casting him from interesting/quirky to interesting/quirky/haert-throb. Although maybe he was settled in with by then.)

[D00mM4r1n3]

Ford v Ferrari and JoJo 4K's are both available through DisneyMovieClub.

[ShellBeacher]

Originally Posted by D00mM4r1n3

Ford v Ferrari and JoJo 4K's are both available through DisneyMovieClub.

Of course they are. But I think many of us interested in preserving 20th Century Fox ain't interested in joining that club!

[bipbop13]

Checked out the 20th Century Fox titles list here on site and was damned surprised & happy to learn that I only need the following titles to have all I want from them up to date...

1.Jumper
2.Tigerland
3.High Crimes
4.Hang 'Em High
5.My Cousin Vinny
6.Chain Reaction
7.Rising Sun
8.Underwater
9.The Shape of Water

4 of these would be upgrades from DVD. Also all but 2 can be had for under 10 bucks right now. The other 2 for under 20.I've never seen a few of them, but they are classics I know I'd enjoy. I consider myself pretty lucky when it comes to being able to get titles before they go oop. Being region free also helps a great deal.

[James Luckard]

Originally Posted by D00mM4r1n3

Ford v Ferrari and JoJo 4K's are both available through DisneyMovieClub.

People have said there's only one disc replication plant left in North America, in Mexico. As a result it's enormously difficult to tell when Amazon and other retailers sell out if a title is gone forever, or just out of stock for a while.

I lean towards thinking Ford and Jojo are gone for good, but we shall see.

[James Luckard]

Originally Posted by bipbop13

Checked out the 20th Century Fox titles list here on site and was damned surprised & happy to learn that I only need the following titles to have all I want from them up to date...

1.Jumper
2.Tigerland
3.High Crimes
4.Hang 'Em High
5.My Cousin Vinny
6.Chain Reaction
7.Rising Sun
8.Underwater
9.The Shape of Water

4 of these would be upgrades from DVD. Also all but 2 can be had for under 10 bucks right now. The other 2 for under 20.I've never seen a few of them, but they are classics I know I'd enjoy. I consider myself pretty lucky when it comes to being able to get titles before they go oop. Being region free also helps a great deal.

Be aware, if you have Tigerland on DVD, that you should keep the DVD. The BD was mastered from the negative, apparently. It lacks the distinctive look of the bleach bypass process that release prints of the film had, which is present on the DVD.

[WBMakeVMarsMovieNOW]

Originally Posted by James Luckard

Yep, Amazon had a fire sale on Ford v Ferrari UHDs a week or so ago at the same price. All gone now.

glad I nabbed in that sale

[James Luckard]

I collect Ang Lee films, and I just snagged this for $9.99 used at Amoeba today.



It seems like it might be OOP. Amazon only has third-party sellers offering it for about $50. Best Buy has it, but GRUV, the official Universal site, also has it marked "Sold Out"

[joonskeezle]

Originally Posted by danny24

Not showing in stock anywhere else it's possible both Amazon and Target are getting left over stock from Universal. Definitely makes you wonder though if it's really OOP.

Not taking any chances. Ordered.

[neo_reloaded]

Originally Posted by ShellBeacher

Of course they are. But I think many of us interested in preserving 20th Century Fox ain't interested in joining that club!

Disney owns Fox now, so any recent or future pressings of Fox films will be distributed by Disney. I understand disliking the fact that this arrangement exists (I do too), but that's now the unavoidable reality. As long as Disney distributes the unmodified movies, isn't them continuing to distribute them better than the alternative? They're not even re-encoding discs, which would be a huge waste of money, so the worst you'll receive from any Disney pressing is the new '20th Century Studios'/Disney branding on the back of the cover somewhere. The disc authorings are untouched. Raging against this, in my opinion, is like raging against the WB logo on the back of recent MGM reissues.

And I still see, in this thread and any other random Fox thread that gets bumped, about how Disney is making all Fox titles go bye-bye. But that's really not what the evidence is indicating. Disney is releasing brand new 4K UHD discs for Fox films (slowly, yes; but both Disney and Fox as an independent entity have been very slow in this regard). Some Fox Blu-rays have been reissued with new cover art/SKUs but the previous disc encodings. And others have been silently repressed with the same cover and SKUs. Disney Movie Club is slowly adding more and more Fox Blu-rays.

And Disney is reissuing other Fox stuff internationally as well, further indicating that they have no ideological aversion to continued Fox physical media releases. They reissued the entire 11-season X-Files set on Blu-ray in Germany, they did a huge run of 'Amazon Selects' Fox Blu-rays in Brazil, they're reissuing the Fox X-Men films in brand new steelbooks in the UK, etc. It's all a bit piecemeal - there's no big line-wide reissue of all Fox films - but I don't know if that's really called for anyway. There's also still the pandemic shortages and huge backup at replication facilities (there's not only one replication facility in North America as frequently touted, but it is true that most of the major studio stuff goes through Technicolor Mexico, so it is a bottleneck).

It's never a bad idea to buy titles you don't want to miss out on, and some stuff will actually go OOP since no studio keeps its entire catalog in print. But this Fox stuff is still wildly overblown, imo. JoJo Rabbit 4K, for example, had a similar out-of-stock-everywhere situation about a year ago, and then another pressing was done. If it's popular enough to have sold out a new pressing again already, I expect an additional new pressing is in the cards as well.

[James Luckard]

The evergreen Fox titles like Speed aren't as big an issue. It's the recent titles that sold out and won't ever be greatly in demand again, like The Post, which I have a feeling Disney won't bother to repress on BD or UHD. That title, and a bunch of other recent Fox UHDs, like Ad Astra and Murder on the Orient Express, have been unavailable new for many months now on either BD or UHD or both.

Also, the fire sales that Amazon had on Ford v Ferrari and Jojo may indeed just have been regular sales, it's true, but they looked suspiciously like what Amazon does to clear stock of a discontinued item.

We'll know in six months, when we see if those titles are available again.

[neo_reloaded]

Originally Posted by James Luckard

The evergreen Fox titles like Speed aren't as big an issue. It's the recent titles that sold out and won't ever be greatly in demand again, like The Post, which I have a feeling Disney won't bother to repress on UHD. That title, and a bunch of other recent Fox UHDs, like Ad Astra and Murder on the Orient Express, have been unavailable new for many months now.

Also, the fire sales that Amazon had on Ford v Ferrari and Jojo may indeed just have been regular sales, it's true, but they looked suspiciously like what Amazon does to clear stock of a discontinued item.

We'll know in six months, when we see if those titles are available again.

I don't think titles like 'The Post' are high sellers that are in need of regular represses. This whole "out of print" thing is semantically fraught because a lot of titles that seem "in print" are really just titles with 5+ year old pressings that haven't sold out yet. Based on things like distribution agreements (like when Paramount titles switched to WB distribution in early 2010s and then back to Paramount in late 2010s) or the replication facility used (some studios have switched replicators by choice, while others have switched by necessity when replicators have closed), you can get a pretty good idea of when certain physical copies were actually manufactured.

Amazon can be a grab-bag due to 3rd party sellers 'polluting' the stream of fresh product from the distributor, but others like Best Buy and Target give you a much better idea of what stock is still being pushed. Walmart orders frequently ship straight from the distributor without any Walmart warehouse as a middle man, so you get a really good idea. As I go through and fill some of the holes in my collection, it's amazing how many "in print" titles are still chugging along on reaaaaally old pressings.

The Shout Factory oop announcements were a good example of this. I ordered quite a few direct from Shout Factory when they were announced, and many were manufactured by Sony DADC, a replicator Shout hasn't used for multiple years. And even with the official OOP announcement and the resulting panic rush, some of these titles are still circulating at the various big e-tailers.

[James Luckard]

Originally Posted by neo_reloaded

I don't think titles like 'The Post' are high sellers that are in need of regular represses. This whole "out of print" thing is semantically fraught because a lot of titles that seem "in print" are really just titles with 5+ year old pressings that haven't sold out yet. Based on things like distribution agreements (like when Paramount titles switched to WB distribution in early 2010s and then back to Paramount in late 2010s) or the replication facility used (some studios have switched replicators by choice, while others have switched by necessity when replicators have closed), you can get a pretty good idea of when certain physical copies were actually manufactured.

Very true. The term "OOP" often gets applied to items that are merely out of stock temporarily, or between pressings, or have sold out a print run but may get randomly repressed later. Meanwhile, there are discs that haven't been "in print," meaning receiving new pressings, in years, but there's still stock sitting at Amazon, gathering dust, so it's still available.

Most studios don't have websites that make it clear whether a title is still available directly through them. Fox's foxconnect.com, which Disney euthanized, was great for that. Wbshop.com used to be great for that for Warners too. At least Universal still has GRUV, where we can check on whether they stock a certain title currently.

But when I see that Amazon hasn't stocked a title new for over a year, like The Post, I tend to think that we will never see new copies of it again. whatever term is applied to it.