BDs That Are Out of Print (OOP)

[stratford]

reputation what you describe is stock issues. The most reliable way to be sure that any title is oop is to have it from the studio for real saying so.

Some titles my be oop because of the Corona virus situation causeing factories to be closed or on reduced capacity. What do others know/ believe?

[Mr. Romberg]

This appears to be out of print. However, Criterion is releasing a new version of it.

[backwater]

The Spike Lee Joint Collection Vol. 1 seems to be OOP.

[Show spoiler]

[orangerunner]

Originally Posted by CrowKiller

Also keep in mind that OOP means that no more are planned to be pressed again. Something can technically be OOP and still have millions of copies easily available.

The whole "OOP" thing gets thrown around rather loosely and does not signify value.

My "Ocean's Eleven" HD-DVD is OOP (!) but guess what? Nobody cares and nobody wants it.

[jayembee]

Not to mention that every Twilight Time title was OOP the minute all 3000 (or whatever) copies were pressed. They just weren't sold out until all of the copies were actually sold.

[stratford]

orangerunner why would any body want your hd-dvd of oceans eleven, when the movie is the same vc-1 as the common Blu-ray?
https://www.doblu.com/2009/09/22/oceans-eleven-review/

or is there some thing exclusive to the hd-dvd that we are not aware of?
The format being dead is a large part of the problem, Blu-ray saw it off

[CrowKiller]

Originally Posted by orangerunner

The whole "OOP" thing gets thrown around rather loosely and does not signify value.

My "Ocean's Eleven" HD-DVD is OOP (!) but what guess what? Nobody cares and nobody wants it.

OOP has become another meaning for valuable and high demand it seems. Which obviously isn't true. Plenty of things are OOP and not worth a crap and nobody wants it. OOP just literally means Out Of Print (no longer being produced). The value comes from the demand and how much someone is willing to pay.

[CelestialAgent]

Over in the General UK Deals thread I put together a list of UK Fox titles that appear to be OOP (so far as Amazon is concerned). Doesn’t mean the US equivalent is OOP but maybe keep an eye on it

Originally Posted by CelestialAgent

This is exactly what’s happening.

An Affair to Remember is from £15 new on Amazon. Tora! Tora! Tora! only available as a steelbook. Titanic (1953) is £21. Fantastic Voyage £20 used. The Day the Earth Stood Still £16 plus delivery. The Thin Red Line £11.15 plus delivery. Martha Marcy May Marlene £14.99 plus delivery. Get Shorty £21 plus delivery. Capote £24.76 plus delivery. New York, New York £19.95 plus delivery. Niagra £20.94 plus delivery. M*A*S*H, Notes on a Scandal, The Diary of Anne Frank, Bus Stop currently unavailable. Another Earth, Man on Fire only available used.

Even West Side Story, with the remake coming out, is £49.45 (plus delivery!) new or £5.50 plus delivery used. 2017’s Alien: Covenant is £20.69 plus delivery used! What was once the highest grossing blockbuster, Titanic, is £14.50 plus delivery.

Amazon doesn’t necessarily reflect availability or prices elsewhere but it’s a good barometer to use.

Not everything is at inflated prices and I expect maybe the biggest blockbusters will stick around at least for now. But with older films that haven’t stuck around as much in the public consciousness or some of the Searchlight indie titles get them as soon as possible.

Looking through the UK releases, these are getting harder to come by:
How Green is My Valley
Vera Cruz
South Pacific
The Fly (1958)
The Horse Soldiers
The Sound of Music
The Agony and the Ecstasy
The Bible: In the Beginning
Batman: The Movie
The Thomas Crown Affair
Battle of Britain
Patton
The Omen
Silent Movie
Ladyhawke
Teen Wolf
The Jewel of the Nile
Rain Man
Big
9 1/2 Weeks
Mystic Pizza
Marked for Death
Miller’s Crossing
Strictly Ballroom
Home Alone II
White Men Can’t Jump
Mrs Doubtfire
Rising Sun
Kalifornia
The Adventures of Priscilla
Thumbelina
Independence Day
Chain Reaction
One Fine Day
L.A. Confidential
The Full Monty
The Siege
There’s Something About Mary
The Man in the Iron Mask
Ever After
Hope Floats
Entrapment
Me, Myself & Irene
Roadkill
Men of Honor
Big Momma’s House
From Hell
The Transporter
28 Days/Weeks Later
Minority Report
Windtalkers
High Crimes
Runaway Jury
The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen
Just Married
Dodgeball
The Girl Next Door
Walking Tall
Kingdom of Heaven
The Clearing
Never Die Alone
Mr & Mrs Smith
Be Cool
Hide and Seek
The Hills Have Eyes
The Happening
The Sentinel
My Super Ex-Girlfriend
Just My Luck
The Simpsons Movie
Meet the Spartans
Shine a Light
Babylon A.D.
27 Dresses
Family Guy Trilogy
24
Dollhouse
Jennifer’s Body
500 Days of Summer
Never Let Me Go
Tooth Fairy
The Three Stooges
In Time
Win Win
The Art of Getting By
Modern Family
Ruby Sparks
Lola Versus
The Secret Life of Walter Mitty
Stoker
The Sessions
The Counsellor
Futurama
The Grand Budapest Hotel
If I Stay
The Belko Experiment
Ash vs the Evil Dead
Legion
My Cousin Rachel
The Little Stranger
Lost in Space
Snatched
Bohemian Rhapsody

US releases:
Call of the Wild
Blood and Sand
North to Alaska
Once Upon a Time in America
Working Girl
Sommersby
French Kiss
Boys Don’t Cry
Kiss of the Dragon
The Simpsons Season 13, 15, 16, 17
Kissing Jessica Stein
Ong Bak

I’ll stop at 2006 for the US as that’s when Blu-rays were first introduced but it’s worth exploring for yourself.

[neo_reloaded]

LOL yes, Bohemian Rhapsody is out of print...

I don't know why everyone thinks Disney is going to "vault" all of the Fox titles. Disney maintains its own Blu-ray catalogue (not impeccably, but no worse than most of the majors), and Disney will want to get as much money out of Fox as possible, so arbitrarily cutting off a revenue stream for no reason doesn't make a lot of sense. Disney is not anti-physical media in any sense, so there is no ideological reason for them to do what is being suggested.

The deal is still very fresh in lots of ways, with a lot of reshuffling still happening, so some things have likely fallen by the wayside. And right now we're in a bit of an international crisis, so judging based on what is currently out of stock on Amazon seems a bit... inconclusive? Amazon is always saying stuff like "5 in stock (more on the way)" except now they're closed to new shipments that aren't essential, and lots of warehouses are closed down, and so on - so there's really a lot of context to consider.

It's never a bad idea to buy a title you wouldn't want to miss out on, but I'd personally steer clear of alarmism given all that is happening.

[Rzzzz]

When this all over, I believe we are going to see a lot of older titles go OOP and not come back, from a lot of different companies...

[James Luckard]

Originally Posted by Rzzzz

When this all over, I believe we are going to see a lot of older titles go OOP and not come back, from a lot of different companies...

I completely agree, sadly. Loads and loads of titles are out of stock at the European Amazons, and lots are gone here in the US too. I wouldn't be surprised if many of those titles never get replenished.

[neo_reloaded]

Originally Posted by James Luckard

I completely agree, sadly. Loads and loads of titles are out of stock at the European Amazons, and lots are gone here in the US too. I wouldn't be surprised if many of those titles never get replenished.

Studios aren't constantly reprinting titles every month - some of the titles in that list were likely last printed/reprinted YEARS ago. You think they're all just coincidentally finally becoming sold out during this crisis, a time when people are being more stingy with their money? Or is it more likely that Amazon et al. are just out of stock because of work shutdowns/re-prioritization of essential goods industry-wide?

[Rzzzz]

In the same way many companies won't hire the slackers back when this is over, many of the low selling titles will be discontinued....

[neo_reloaded]

Originally Posted by Rzzzz

In the same way many companies won't hire the slackers back when this is over, many of the low selling titles will be discontinued....

I think you're missing my point. These titles aren't being constantly reprinted on a month-to-month basis. Studios print 1000+ at a time (or more), and these sit in distributor warehouses and slowly get depleted over years as Amazon, Best Buy, Target, etc. purchase them for THEIR warehouses and then eventually sell them to customers. That chain of supply is broken right now, for obvious reasons. I believe that, once this crisis is over and the supply chain returns to normal, there will be pre-existing stock that will flow again.

The alternative is that all of these titles coincidentally sold out within a very short period of time - something that seems very unlikely to me.

And slackers? WTF? I don't even want to get into that...

[Rzzzz]

Originally Posted by neo_reloaded

And slackers? WTF? I don't even want to get into that...

[CelestialAgent]

Looks like Hoffa is gone as well

[SpaceBlackKnight]

Originally Posted by Mr. Romberg

This appears to be out of print. However, Criterion is releasing a new version of it.

All Fortune Star titles Shout Factory had put out are OOP now. Others include:

Legacy of Rage (DVD)

Battle Creek Brawl/City Hunter Double Feature

Angela Mao collection (DVD)

The Protector/Crime Story

Police Story I & II double feature (rereleased by Criterion in 2019 with 4k remastered transfers).

The following Bruce Lee titles also in double features and Bruce Lee: The Legacy Collection: The Big Boss, Fist of Fury, The Way of the Dragon, Game of Death, Bruce Lee: The Legend, Bruce Lee: The Man, The Legend, I Am Bruce Lee

Shout Select remastered editions of: The Big Boss, Fist of Fury, The Way of the Dragon, Game of Death

[James Luckard]

Originally Posted by neo_reloaded

The alternative is that all of these titles coincidentally sold out within a very short period of time - something that seems very unlikely to me.

I don't think that's unlikely at all, I think that's probably exactly what happened. I suspect lots of people are ordering more BDs online to watch while they're shut in, and the existing stock of these old BDs is being depleted, likely never to be replenished, especially with the combination of the Disney takeover of Fox and the Paramount takeover of the Miramax catalog. The Fox titles have been slowly vanishing over the last year, but it has sped up a LOT in the last month.

That said, stock of everything is being depleted, and Amazon has redesigned their algorithms to place streaming versions at the top and to bury physical media way down in the lists of search results.

This is a very unusual time. We shall see what happens when it's over, but I suspect many of these titles are gone forever now. The day of physical media is passing.

[neo_reloaded]

There's so much new stuff coming out that it's impossible to keep up with, and companies like Shout and Kino are re-releasing all kinds of films that have already had releases and still seem to be making money on them, so I don't know - I'm not convinced. Things are shifting, certainly, but there seems to be a strong floor, and I would not be surprised in the least to see a lot of these Fox titles return. Not all, things certainly get culled, for all studios - but there isn't going to be some kind of overnight (or over-a-month) switch where tons of things all just disappear at once.

If people really have been picking up a ton of titles while in quarantine, that would make it more likely that the studios reprint a good number of them after seeing the increased interest. And the Lionsgate/Miramax situation - Paramount presumably won the license with the intent to profit off those Miramax titles in one way or another...

[clortho]

Originally Posted by TripleHBK

The Miramax deal was finalized on April 3rd which now see's Paramount taking over the distribution of Miramax's film catalog so expect anything distributed by Lionsgate to disappear very very quickly.

I would've thought so, too, but after browsing online today it looks like the wells are drying up pretty fast.

I'm trying to find some of the titles I foolishly waited on before they're gone.

I tracked down From Dusk Till Dawn and Equilibrium on Amazon, but the rest I had to order through numerous small retailers. The problem with this is that their websites aren't always up to date, so hopefully none of these orders get canceled.

Normally after these distribution deals close it's a few months or more before the old stock starts disappearing. I assumed I would've had more time than a couple of weeks.