BDs That Are Out of Print (OOP)

[James Luckard]

Yep, this problem seems to always come up here. People get Out of Print (OOP) and Out of Stock (OOS) perpetually confused.

There are plenty of titles that are OOP but may never go OOS at every single retailer, due to low demand. Also different retailsrs sell out of their existing stock at different times, which causes some people to forever claim an OOP title is not OOP just because one single retailer still carries it. That just means it's not OOS.

Likewise, there are titles that may remain OOS for many months or years, yet the distributor may intend to produce more, so they're not technically OOP.

I feel like knowing when something is OOP from the distributor is the most valuable, because then there's still time to snap it up when some retailers have it, before it vanishes entirely. Yes, there's a chance the title may never vanish entirely if it's super obscure and nobody wants it, regardless of whether it's OOP or not. However, in general, when a disc goes Out of Print it goes Out of Stock everywhere not long after.

If a distributor then decides to press more discs, and bring a title back into print, it can always be removed from the list.

[noiradelic]

Originally Posted by houseca

I think it would be a waste of time adding a bunch of crappy titles nobody wants for movies that have been in that "going oop" page since February at least. The good ones have long been picked over.

The literal definition of OOP is that they will not do any more pressings. The commonly accepted definition of OOP is that there will be no more pressings and can no longer be found at any retail outlets (only 3rd party listings).

The April wave of "while supplies last" titles had the best selection, so there are some good ones left. But it's true that the best ones of the most popular genres like horror are mostly gone. Marty, the first KLSC title and Oscar winner, River's Edge, often recced in the Kino sale threads, and Altman's Thieves Like Us, one of my favorites of the bunch, are still in stock.

[Hellhound]

I don't see any reason for people to not post stuff in the thread when it's confirmed to be OOP to give people a heads up to grab it before it dries up, but on the other hand, is it really that useful to members to wade through a list of 200+ Kino titles on the first page to try and figure out which OOP titles are actually hard to find/expensive and which can still be had for $4 on Kino's site?

I guess it's up to HD Goofnut to decide what gets added to the list, but I find the list more valuable when it's mostly stuff where the supply is actually dried up or will shortly.

[James Luckard]

Originally Posted by Hellhound

I find the list more valuable when it's mostly stuff where the supply is actually dried up or will shortly.

I agree totally. The tough thing for HD Goofnut in maintaining the list is that it can be super difficult to know when stock of really obscure titles that are technically OOP actually start to dry up. There's no easy answer.

I trust HD Goofnut though, the list has been well maintained for quite a while now.

[erlinmeyer]

Have no problem with titles shown as OOP that are out of print/production but not out of stock. This is an OOP thread and if it is important to many to have a way of knowing if an item is still available, then someone can create a thread to show titles that are OOP but not OOS. Threads are cheap!

[houseca]

The Kino going OOP page has been posted on and off in this thread for like 8 months now. There is no need to add every single title to the list. Way too much work and it clutters up the list so that it becomes much harder to find what you might be looking for.

If every single title that is OOP, no matter how obscure, gets put on the list, it will look like a huge mess. Discretion must be used, IMHO, and it looks like Goofnut has been doing that. Putting titles on the list that are still widely available does not make sense.

[erlinmeyer]

Originally Posted by houseca

The Kino going OOP page has been posted on and off in this thread for like 8 months now. There is no need to add every single title to the list. Way too much work and it clutters up the list so that it becomes much harder to find what you might be looking for.

If every single title that is OOP, no matter how obscure, gets put on the list, it will look like a huge mess. Discretion must be used, IMHO, and it looks like Goofnut has been doing that. Putting titles on the list that are still widely available does not make sense.

Guess the first sentence of this thread needs to be changed in your opinion. It is: "This list will consist of BDs worldwide that are currently OOP"

Nothing about obscure don't count, and if they are in stock someplace then look elsewhere. The OP even talks about titles that are OOP but available.

[spawningblue]

Originally Posted by noiradelic

Except for the titles that are now DVD only (which should definitely be added to the OP), can't you get them for a reasonable price from the Kino sale itself?

Not in Canada. After Shipping and duty the prices are hardly worth it.

Either way, it seems silly to ignore titles that the company themselves have said are OOP in a thread dedicated to OOP titles. If we just want to go by what titles are rare and expensive in the aftermarket then that's fine, but then maybe the thread should be renamed Rare/ Hard to Find Titles, not OOP titles.

Again, I guess it depends how you use this thread. To me, once a title has skyrocketed in price I don't really care about it, as I'm not going to pay those prices. I personally use this thread to find out about what titles will be rare and hard to find soon so I can snatch them up now. I guess it's a personal preference thing, but again, based on the title of the thread it seems silly to not add them.

[thatguamguy]

Originally Posted by houseca

Way too much work and it clutters up the list so that it becomes much harder to find what you might be looking for.

Here's a tip: Use Control-F to quickly "find" text on a loaded page. If you are looking for a specific title, that is much easier than scanning the list manually, and will also eliminate the impact on you of keeping the list as complete as possible.

[starman15317]

Maybe we should make a separate thread for Kino OOP titles and link to it from this page.

[deltatauhobbit]

Shout/Scream have 120 under their list right now and it's not very difficult to scroll by them (which is also missing a bunch of titles from their own OOP shop section) so having Kino with their 200+ OOP titles shouldn't be difficult either.

[spawningblue]

Originally Posted by deltatauhobbit

Shout/Scream have 120 under their list right now and it's not very difficult to scroll by them (which is also missing a bunch of titles from their own OOP shop section) so having Kino with their 200+ OOP titles shouldn't be difficult either.

Yeah, there's a bunch that need added to the Shout/Scream Factory list as well. Again, to not add them because it will make the lists too big is kind of a silly reasoning. The lists will continue to get bigger as psychical media becomes more and more niche. It is what it is.

[spawningblue]

Shout/ Scream Factory now OOP

Angry Red Planet, The
Bat People, The
Beast of Hollow Mountain / The Neanderthal Man (double Feature), The
Beast Within, The
Brain That Wouldn't Die, The
Cellar Dweller / Catacombs (double feature)
Contamination .7
Crawlspace
Die, Monster, Die!
Eve of Destruction
Four Skulls of Jonathan Drake, The
Horror Show, The
House That Screamed, The
I Bury The Living
Invasion of the Bee Girls
Man From Planet X, The
Naked Cage, The
Outing / The Godsend (double Feature), The
Return of Count Yorga, The
Screaming Skull, The
Vagrant, The
Vampire, The
Vicious Lips
What's the Matter with Helen?
X-Ray / Schizoid (double feature)

[bigdaddyhorse]

Originally Posted by spawningblue

Shout/ Scream Factory now OOP

Angry Red Planet, The
Bat People, The
Beast of Hollow Mountain / The Neanderthal Man (double Feature), The
Beast Within, The
Brain That Wouldn't Die, The
Cellar Dweller / Catacombs (double feature)
Contamination .7
Crawlspace
Die, Monster, Die!
Eve of Destruction
Four Skulls of Jonathan Drake, The
Horror Show, The
House That Screamed, The
I Bury The Living
Invasion of the Bee Girls
Man From Planet X, The
Naked Cage, The
Outing / The Godsend (double Feature), The
Return of Count Yorga, The
Screaming Skull, The
Vagrant, The
Vampire, The
Vicious Lips
What's the Matter with Helen?
X-Ray / Schizoid (double feature)

Those are just the ones that will go OOP soon (by the end of the year), the bottom of the page are the ones in grey that have recently gone OOP. I'd list some, but every one I have put up here never makes it to the main list anyways. Too bad all studios can't be like Shout and Kino and let people know what is and isn't OOP or going OOP.

[houseca]

Originally Posted by thatguamguy

Here's a tip: Use Control-F to quickly "find" text on a loaded page. If you are looking for a specific title, that is much easier than scanning the list manually, and will also eliminate the impact on you of keeping the list as complete as possible.

I would think far more users would want to scan through the list to see what has gone OOP, not to look for a specific title.

[houseca]

Originally Posted by bigdaddyhorse

Those are just the ones that will go OOP soon (by the end of the year), the bottom of the page are the ones in grey that have recently gone OOP. I'd list some, but every one I have put up here never makes it to the main list anyways. Too bad all studios can't be like Shout and Kino and let people know what is and isn't OOP or going OOP.

Exactly, and Twilight Time was the absolute best at this (they still do it but have shut down obviously). They would tell us when copies would be drying up, and give us updates on the exact amount still left in inventory.

I guess a lot of folks will want Goofnut to add every single title on their page. After all, they are discontinued even though many titles will sit around for years because nobody wants them.

[James Luckard]

Originally Posted by houseca

Exactly, and Twilight Time was the absolute best at this (they still do it but have shut down obviously). They would tell us when copies would be drying up, and give us updates on the exact amount still left in inventory.

I guess a lot of folks will want Goofnut to add every single title on their page. After all, they are discontinued even though many titles will sit around for years because nobody wants them.

I agree. Nobody can predict when a title will sell out, and it won't sell out at the same time at all retailers. However, if we know for a fact that a title is OOP, that's valuable info.

It's like with Warner titles, where we have wbshop.com to tell us pretty definitively if a title is OOP if it gets removed completely from their listings.

Unfortunately many studios don't have that, or there's foxconnect.com, which Disney took down.

In those cases, we can only guess about what's OOP, once things dry up everywhere and start going for crazy prices.

[Luke Dodge748]

Originally Posted by spawningblue

Shout/ Scream Factory now OOP


Bat People, The
Four Skulls of Jonathan Drake, The
Vagrant, The
Vampire, The
X-Ray / Schizoid (double feature)

I picked these up Saturday, and now I'm glad I did. I missed a few I still wanted, like Eve of Destruction, but I can't buy EVERYTHING Shout!!

[jayembee]

Originally Posted by houseca

I guess a lot of folks will want Goofnut to add every single title on their page. After all, they are discontinued even though many titles will sit around for years because nobody wants them.

What I want Goofnut to do is whatever he feels comfortable doing. If people bring up a big list of titles that Kino or Shout say are going to be going OOP over the next few months, and Goofnut wants to add them, that's his discretion. If he doesn't, that's his discretion, too.

Even if he doesn't want to add them to the list at the top of the thread, at the very least, the fact that other people are pointing these things out here is valuable.

[LMFAObros]

Shame the site doesn't have an algorithm that automatically creates a list based on what's written in the forum posts.