HDR Discussion Thread

[FilmFreakosaurus]

Originally Posted by HeavyHitter

This is just the tip of the iceberg. The fed has created a bubble over the last 10 years that is eventually going to make 2008-09 look like walk in the park before it's all said and done. The bigger the bubble burst, the harder the fall. People need to prepare for it...the earlier the better.

Late 2019 or 2020 is the prediction for said calamity.

[Penton-Man]

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[FilmFreakosaurus]

Originally Posted by HeavyHitter

CNBC are the same clowns who said the housing market was great in late 2007 and that Fannie and Freddy were solid. lol

They also just said a couple weeks ago it was a great time to start buying stocks on "lows" - and look at how much further things dropped since then. These guys are paid by the financial industry so they are pushing people to buy at every moment. Even the other day they were telling people now is a good time to buy.

I wouldn't doubt that certain unmentionable someones are making a pretty penny buying on the short side after helping push the markets into early 1930's territory.

[Penton-Man]

I’m blissfully getting over our current cash loss now with the beer starting to kick in and the child bearing good news –
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bru_GU3gWc3/

[PaulGo]

Originally Posted by HeavyHitter

This is just the tip of the iceberg. The fed has created a bubble over the last 10 years that is eventually going to make 2008-09 look like walk in the park before it's all said and done. The bigger the bubble burst, the harder the fall. People need to prepare for it...the earlier the better.

Current economic policies and the stock market are influenced by a lot of other factors which have nothing to do with the fed. But just think abut someone investing in bitcoin about a year ago. (about $20,000 then and $3,800 now).

[HeavyHitter]

Originally Posted by PaulGo

Current economic policies and the stock market are influenced by a lot of other factors which have nothing to do with the fed. But just think abut someone investing in bitcoin about a year ago. (about $20,000 then and $3,800 now).

There are multiple factors at the moment to be sure, but I'm looking at the bigger picture of it all. However, the fed policies and rising rates are most certainly a major factor all year long aside from trade. The slow down in home and auto sales is starting to reflect that and the market has been seeing it. Hearing more rate increases just decreases market confidence. The Dow would have not gained anywhere near 25% in 2017 if the feds started raising rates then.

Bitcoin was a very, very easy one to predict. Someone could have done very well with it at the right timing, but anything beyond that should have been obvious. Bitcoin will be zero at some point.

[PaulGo]

Why the fed raises and lowers interest rates:

Here's how the Fed raises interest rates and why it matters

Dec. 19, 2018

https://www.businessinsider.com/how-...-rates-2017-12

[HeavyHitter]

Originally Posted by PaulGo

Why the fed raises and lowers interest rates:

Here's how the Fed raises interest rates and why it matters

Dec. 19, 2018

https://www.businessinsider.com/how-...-rates-2017-12

Oh, I understand the why and should. That is part of the problem; they should have been raised a long time ago and not kept ultra low. Greenspan started the cheap money policy monster and it was never truly contained (which he now essentially admits was a mistake).

[FilmFreakosaurus]

Originally Posted by HeavyHitter

Oh, I understand the why and should. That is part of the problem; they should have been raised a long time ago and not kept ultra low. Greenspan started the cheap money policy monster and it was never truly contained (which he now essentially admits was a mistake).

What happened as a result of when both parties got rid of Glass-Steagall and the Volcker Rule has never been fixed. They were simple Thou Shall Not rules and stopped Wall Street and the banks' worst instincts. Now, we have monsters.

[HeavyHitter]

Originally Posted by FilmFreakosaurus

What happened as a result of when both parties got rid of Glass-Steagall and the Volcker Rule has never been fixed. They were simple Thou Shall Not rules and stopped Wall Street and the banks' worst instincts. Now, we have monsters.

I think what you say also ties into the a lack of a gold standard (which I think eventually will have to come back at some point as I truly believe the dollar will need to eventually be reset) which allowed both parties to create massive deficits and debt that will only get worse with more printing press, fiat currency. The banks love the printing of money for obvious reasons.

Interestingly enough, look at what happened after leaving the Gold Standard in regards to the bottom 90% and top 1%.
gold standard inequality (1).jpg

[wxman2003]

Curious if HDR will make the economy look sharper with more detail and deeper color, especially greenbacks.

[Penton-Man]

During our Christmas dinner this evening, given that one of our family members is Army, it dawned upon me that I’ve made a lot of posts recently about the Navy (as it mostly relates to Top Gun: Maverick) and even the Marines what with the audio link I posted on the last page of the recounting of then Lt. Gen. Jim Mattis’s selfless act of kindness on Christmas day, so to all you Army guys and gals (including ex-Army like Stacey Spears), I offer this up as penance as it fits in with movies and such….https://eurekalert.org/pub_releases/...RIOTTtdDbci2Pc

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by wxman2003

Curious if HDR will make the economy look sharper with more detail and deeper color, especially greenbacks.

When I’m in line at places like Trader Joe's or Whole Paycheck, I swear I’m the only customer I ever see that pays with greenbacks rather than plastic.

[gkolb]

Underground economy. You should see the folks paying in cash at Costco up here. Huge shopping carts or flatbeds.

[Bluyoda]

Originally Posted by anthonyls

Who cares about HDR10+. It's a format that really only Samsung supports... and will be dead in a few years due to a lack of studio support. So instead of Oppo wasting their time on this, why don't they focus on a adding a much more needed feature, like the ability to dim white subtitles during a 4K movie with HDR or DV. I think that would be much more useful.

Well, 20th Century Fox and Warner B. have comitted to HDR10+ as well, which is HUGE. The first discs have already been released. "A Beautiful Planet" also has it.
And don't forget that amazon's Prime HDR catalogue has 10+ as well.

I personally prefer DV, as it has 12bits, but it's better than static metadata for sure.

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by Bluyoda

Well, 20th Century Fox and Warner B. have comitted to HDR10+ as well, which is HUGE. The first discs have already been released. "A Beautiful Planet" also has it.
And don't forget that amazon's Prime HDR catalogue has 10+ as well.

I personally prefer DV, as it has 12bits, but it's better than static metadata for sure.

Warner so far has spoken only about streaming - and it seems like it will be "You can stream Warner titles in HDR10+ on Amazon Prime".

Prime also supports DV.

Fox is about to be assimilated into Disney.

Future is uncertain I'd say.

[MisterXDTV]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

Warner so far has spoken only about streaming - and it seems like it will be "You can stream Warner titles in HDR10+ on Amazon Prime".

Prime also supports DV.

Fox is about to be assimilated into Disney.

Future is uncertain I'd say.

We will know more about HDR10+ future in a couple of weeks at CES..

My guess is that Warner will start releasing discs as well with that format in mid 2019. No reason not to.....

So far they have spoken about streaming because it's much quicker to implement. In fact the first movie disc with HDR10+ is coming January 1st from Fox.

2019 will be the first true year for HDR10+, so far it has been just a spec written on paper, no true content available...

[FilmFreakosaurus]

Originally Posted by MisterXDTV

We will know more about HDR10+ future in a couple of weeks at CES..

My guess is that Warner will start releasing discs as well with that format in mid 2019. No reason not to.....

So far they have spoken about streaming because it's much quicker to implement. In fact the first movie disc with HDR10+ is coming January 1st from Fox.

2019 will be the first true year for HDR10+, so far it has been just a spec written on paper, no true content available...

I could see why WB would possibly move to HDR10+ because they haven't ever fully implemented Dolby Vision disc encoding and its benefits. They don't add a 12 bit enhancement layer (which requires a 12 bit or higher video master) and even the latest component video encoding protocol for wide color gamuts (which DV supports), and instead only use the 10 bit dynamic metadata portion, which is all HDR10+ is adding anyway to standard HDR10.

[PeterTHX]

Fox as a studio will not exist a year from now.

Warner may not do the enhancement part but they have encoded all their major releases of late in DV, including catalog titles like 2001 and Superman.

[FilmFreakosaurus]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

Fox as a studio will not exist a year from now.

Warner may not do the enhancement part but they have encoded all their major releases of late in DV, including catalog titles like 2001 and Superman.

The problem with the last statement is that if Dolby Vision's premium features are not utilized, you're really not getting the benefits of the format anyway. It's like Dolby Vision in name only, like Dolby Atmos print-outs create Atmos in name only mixes.