Blu-rays are 8 years old and DVDs still cling to them like a cancerous tumor. Why?

[Dylan34]

Originally Posted by mredman

well blu rays look stunning on a big projector screen why do you need 4K anyway. I am fully content with Blu Ray in 1080p

I didnt say i needed it. I love my blus!!!! I dont have a projector (yet), but i do view on a 70 incher and detail is phenomenal. If 4k is the future though, then why not release the best viewing experience possible? That would be a 4k optical disc format, not streaming!!

[kurtlingle]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Hell, I just bought the DVD of Zero Dark Thirty. Why? Because the PQ is stunning (it upscales like a champ) and it cost a measly £2 used.

I think you must have a pretty good upconverter to say a DVD is stunning. I've seen good DVD's (like CGI based movies like Toy Story, etc) but for me DVD is not very good. All DVD's look flat to me. I view on the PS3 on the 50" Pioneer plasma.

[Packerfan75]

Regarding being content with blu-ray

Originally Posted by eiknarf

That's what I say.

But then others say, "That's what people said about DVD"

What those "others" forget is that the difference between dvd and bluray is much bigger than the difference between 1080p and 4k.
I agree with you that it's hard to imagine anyone repurchasing their whole library again in 4k. Maybe just the obnoxiously rich.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by kurtlingle

I think you must have a pretty good upconverter to say a DVD is stunning. I've seen good DVD's (like CGI based movies like Toy Story, etc) but for me DVD is not very good. All DVD's look flat to me. I view on the PS3 on the 50" Pioneer plasma.

To be honest we've been short changed on DVD for years now. Even if the picture doesn't have lots of EE, it's usually very poorly downconverted from the HD master (leading to lots of aliasing) or it's badly compressed (or it's affected by all three!). But the DVD of ZDT has none of those problems, and it's spectacular as a result. Is it as good as HD? No, but it's not far off. Now, I'm not leading some sort of DVD evangelism movement here, 'cause I loves my Blu-rays. But it proves that with a good enough source, upscaling can be very, very effective, whether it be DVD to HD, HD to UHD and so on. I view on the Oppo 95 on the 55" Sony 4K.

[P@t_Mtl]

Originally Posted by eiknarf

Nobody is going to re-buy their entire blu-ray library on 4K all over again

Not sure about "nobody" since that is a pretty large word but I am sure quite a few and that is including myself.

Enough is enough. Even my purchasing of Blu-ray as drop quite a lot in the last 24 months. Unlike others here, Blu-ray was not my first BBQ. Buying movies for me goes back to Betamax and the late 80's and 90's with VHS and Laserdisc to the crazy years of DVD. I bought over the last 30 years roughly

30 Betamax
150+ Laserdiscs
400+ VHS
1500+ DVD

Now reaching almost 500 Blu-ray. I am reaching my 50's and frankly I have no more interest in buying these yet again. I gave enough to Hollywood and the world of cinema in the last 30 years

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by P@t_Mtl

Not sure about "nobody" since that is a pretty large word but I am sure quite a few and that is including myself.

Enough is enough. Even my purchasing of Blu-ray as drop quite a lot in the last 24 months. Unlike others here, Blu-ray was not my first BBQ. Buying movies for me goes back to Betamax and the late 80's and 90's with VHS and Laserdisc to the crazy years of DVD. I bought over the last 30 years roughly

30 Betamax
150+ Laserdiscs
400+ VHS
1500+ DVD

Now reaching almost 500 Blu-ray. I am reaching my 50's and frankly I have no more interest in buying these yet again. I gave enough to Hollywood and the world of cinema in the last 30 years

Why buy them again? Just buy new titles?

[eiknarf]

Originally Posted by P@t_Mtl

Not sure about "nobody" since that is a pretty large word but I am sure quite a few and that is including myself.

Enough is enough. Even my purchasing of Blu-ray as drop quite a lot in the last 24 months. Unlike others here, Blu-ray was not my first BBQ. Buying movies for me goes back to Betamax and the late 80's and 90's with VHS and Laserdisc to the crazy years of DVD. I bought over the last 30 years roughly

30 Betamax
150+ Laserdiscs
400+ VHS
1500+ DVD

Now reaching almost 500 Blu-ray. I am reaching my 50's and frankly I have no more interest in buying these yet again. I gave enough to Hollywood and the world of cinema in the last 30 years

Exactly.
Its like, I don't feel like doing it all over again.
We worked hard getting the collection we have a few times already. And by "hard" I mean, researching which version/which region of this title to get... which import to get of that title...

And some might say, "Well just as you enjoyed collecting through the different physical mediums (VHD, LASER DISC, DVD, BLU), the youth of today will too". But to that I say, well, the youth is not being raised on physical media. They're being prepped for a YouTube/Smartphone/Streaming world. They're not going to feel that excitement of picking up that movie on release day and holding it in their hand.

We're the last of those days

[P@t_Mtl]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Why buy them again? Just buy new titles?

I also buy less new titles than I have in the past. I think I am suffering from "buyer's fatigue" if there is such an expression.

[Dylan34]

Originally Posted by eiknarf

Exactly.
Its like, I don't feel like doing it all over again.
We worked hard getting the collection we have a few times already. And by "hard" I mean, researching which version/which region of this title to get... which import to get of that title...

And some might say, "Well just as you enjoyed collecting through the different physical mediums (VHD, LASER DISC, DVD, BLU), the youth of today will too". But to that I say, well, the youth is not being raised on physical media. They're being prepped for a YouTube/Smartphone/Streaming world. They're not going to feel that excitement of picking up that movie on release day and holding it in their hand.

We're the last of those days

+1. Well said. Kids today only care about how many different things they can watch stuff on, not quality!

[AgentOrange]

Originally Posted by Packerfan75

Regarding being content with blu-ray


What those "others" forget is that the difference between dvd and bluray is much bigger than the difference between 1080p and 4k.
I agree with you that it's hard to imagine anyone repurchasing their whole library again in 4k. Maybe just the obnoxiously rich.

It will likely be moot, because I doubt the entire catalog will be available via 4K.

Blu-Ray is still going strong, but lets face it we are getting volumes of DVD-era dumps at this point. Actual 4K restorations are still relatively rare, actually EXTREMELY rare from some studios (seems to mostly be FOX and Sony that have vaults full of 4K restorations, not sure wtf Warner, MGM, and FOX are doing with the majority of their catalogs). Of course I will consider 4K restorations for any film that got a "mediocre" blu-ray - I'll just have to look on a case by case basis to see how substantial the upgrade is.

[mredman]

Originally Posted by Dylan34

+1. Well said. Kids today only care about how many different things they can watch stuff on, not quality!

actually there are many young people buying Blu Rays. Why do you think Twilight, Hunger Games, Frozen ect.. has sold so well. There are many young people that want to "own" their favorite movies as well collectors will always be here they have been there since the dawn of time.

[Blu-Dog]

Originally Posted by mredman

actually there are many young people buying Blu Rays. Why do you think Twilight, Hunger Games, Frozen ect.. has sold so well. There are many young people that want to "own" their favorite movies as well collectors will always be here they have been there since the dawn of time.

Gifts from parents...

[wormraper]

Originally Posted by Blu-Dog

Gifts from parents...

/facepalm. I see plenty of youngish people picking up Blu-rays all the time at the store

[Dylan34]

Originally Posted by Blu-Dog

Gifts from parents...

Exactly, thank you!

[iank]

No, I don't buy it either. People will always want to actually own things they love, I don't care what anyone says. It's human nature. The studios may want it the other way but that's too bad.

[octagon]

Originally Posted by Dylan34

+1. Well said. Kids today only care about how many different things they can watch stuff on, not quality!

And what's with all the metal sticking out of everything?

And don't even get me started on their music. Hah, music they call it. That's not ****ing music. In mY dayaouhguioh[uioaghoiah[oifghih;asn

[wormraper]

Originally Posted by Dylan34

+1. Well said. Kids today only care about how many different things they can watch stuff on, not quality!

kids have ALWAYS thought that way. when we were kids we wanted walkmans and a discman... we never cared about speakers, receivers etc.. same with movies, we got whatever was cheap... as the person matures, their tastes and habits mature as well.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by P@t_Mtl

I also buy less new titles than I have in the past. I think I am suffering from "buyer's fatigue" if there is such an expression.

You might as well switch to a streaming rental model then? I hope I never feel that way.

[octagon]

Originally Posted by wormraper

kids have ALWAYS thought that way. when we were kids we wanted walkmans and a discman... we never cared about speakers, receivers etc.. same with movies, we got whatever was cheap... as the person matures, their tastes and habits mature as well.

We watched movies on 12 inch black-and-white screen and dammit we liked it.

(actually, we did like it)

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Blu-Dog

Gifts from parents...

Gifts that they could receive on their phones or tablets. Not quite the same, a bunch of kids huddled around a phone is it?