Prometheus (2012)

[Dead By Shaun]

I'm jealous of all you folks who've already had the time to view this thing 3 or 4 times since you bought it! I'm just now settling in for the evening to watch this for the first time since I saw it twice in the theaters. I'll be dipping into all the extra goodies on the bonus disc beginning tomorrow...see ya'll later!

[UncleBuckWild]

Originally Posted by fgomike

Anybody having any issues in playing this on any Sony blu ray players?

Unplug the player for a few hrs and plug it back in... see if that works.

The disc is probably fine... the player might need a new firmware update, but if it's an old Sony model that'll be unlikely.

[Phoenix Theory]

Originally Posted by fgomike

Anybody having any issues in playing this on any Sony blu ray players?

i had no problem,only with the special feature disc which took a long time to load.

[UncleBuckWild]

Originally Posted by xphoenix23

i had no problem,only with the special feature disc which took a long time to load.

I kinda miss how easy it is with the DVDs... pop it in and it just works.

[Ryan0503]

Originally Posted by UncleBuckWild

I kinda miss how easy it is with the DVDs... pop it in and it just works.

As do all my blurays

[Kaiju]

Originally Posted by Dead By Shaun

I'm jealous of all you folks who've already had the time to view this thing 3 or 4 times since you bought it! I'm just now settling in for the evening to watch this for the first time since I saw it twice in the theaters. I'll be dipping into all the extra goodies on the bonus disc beginning tomorrow...see ya'll later!

Enjoy, good sir. Enjoy.

[Kaiju]

Originally Posted by UncleBuckWild

I kinda miss how easy it is with the DVDs... pop it in and it just works.

That's what she said.

...Bazinga.

[supersix4]

Originally Posted by 42041

You'd prefer if he made an Alien rehash?
I can't fault him for not wanting to repeat himself. If anything, I think the film suffers from trying to tie itself to the Alien series rather than just doing something fresh.

No I don't think I said anything about that... There is so much he could cover in Aliens that would make it original and interesting, the engineer (which is now somewhat covered), weyland yutani relationship, deeper alien origin, exc. You don't need to waste time on meaning of life to try to make a "deep" film and yet abandon why people care about you as a director in the first place.

And I agree I'd have rather he made this with no weyland, alien, engineer exc. but then nobody would give a crap about it, and it wouldn't have been near the success (or maybe it would because you would have these odd still unexplained ties) it was as I'm sure alien fans or people with knowledge of the franchise accounted for at least 30% of the sales which is roughly 120million, which when you factor in the budget that doesn't leave nearly as nice a profit margin.

[UncleBuckWild]

Originally Posted by Ryan0503

As do all my blurays

90% I agree with you. Except those times when some blu-ray players are unable to smoothly play a disc due to firmware issues.

[fgomike]

Originally Posted by xphoenix23

i had no problem,only with the special feature disc which took a long time to load.

That's what is happening to me

[ReservoirFiction]

Originally Posted by fgomike

Anybody having any issues in playing this on any Sony blu ray players?

My Sony S760 had the same deteriorating picture issues as described by many. Haven't tried my PS3 or Sony S370 yet.

[Phoenix Theory]

Originally Posted by fgomike

That's what is happening to me

mine took a while either wait or reset the Bluray player and do it again,hope it works,let us know.

[Reubania]

Originally Posted by groove93

I watched it again last night and I'm very curious about a few things.

At the beginning of the film, as the engineer opened the cup to reveal what he was about to drink, there was a reaction that caused it to change.


I wonder what was the atmosphere requirements prior to David opening the door to the "Head Room". It was obvious that a change in Temperature and possibly a change in atmospheric conditions such as introducing Oxygen or Carbon Dioxide caused the Ampules to bleed as well as the murals on the walls to change form.

The severed head of the Engineer, when they "jump started" it, blood, or black goo began to ooz out before it completely exploded.

I wonder if the Engineers were already aware of what can be produced when dealing with Human Genetic Material and the Black goo, which could probably be the reason as to why the awakened Engineer without warning attacked the Crew of the Prometheus.

I'm thinking along the lines of the Engineer waking up, seeing that Humans are still in existence when they were supposed to be wiped from the earth, and without fail, he had to kill what was in his presence, then head to earth to finish the job.

We saw what happened to Fifield who was exposed to a large dosage of the Goo, and of course Holloway was in the early stages of changing.


The worms are another variable because they were also affected, and were violent in nature, but were they considered and "intelligent species", probably not, so no threat. However, humans with a possibility of gaining the same level of intelligence as the Engineers, could pose a threat.

+1. That's how I interpret it

Originally Posted by tkbryant

Perhaps, the Engineers created man only to see us evolve and then deemed us not worthy of their attention after some "event" but then something goes horribly wrong for them and not only were their outposts infected like LV-223 but their home world as well. I have a feeling what David and Shaw find on the Engineer homeworld or "Paradise" is going to be in ruin or the Engineers will be fighting a war on their own planet with their "experiments".

+1. I think "Paradise" will be more "dystopia." It shall be interesting to see what Scott does to this if there's a sequel.

Originally Posted by LobsterPot

Prometheus is deeper than Blade Runner
also Alien was a simple slasher, and that's just as, if not more revered than Blade Runner.

Um. WTF? You can't be serious! I studied Blade Runner and I can assure you, as much as I loved Prometheus, there is a whole lot more going on with Blade Runner. The nuances, the symbolism, the underlying issues of what makes us humans. Prometheus is more about an "origin of species" movie with a few thought provoking suggestions.

Originally Posted by mikesncc1701

+1. Found this infographic after watching Prometheus on IMAX and it helped me understand the differing evolution of the species.

Originally Posted by zahinn

Lots of raping going on, isnt there?

+1. LOL. Yep. Sure is.

[Aragorn the Elfstone]

Originally Posted by 42041

You'd prefer if he made an Alien rehash?
I can't fault him for not wanting to repeat himself. If anything, I think the film suffers from trying to tie itself to the Alien series rather than just doing something fresh.

Agreed 100%. On some level, I almost wish that Ridley had just scrapped everything Alien related and just created a fully original science fiction picture. But, then, I'm not sure he completely wanted to do that either. The film seems caught between two aspirations - wanting to do an Alien prequel and wanting to venture into something fresh and unexplored. Still, I enjoyed the connection to Alien. Perhaps, he could have just been more subtle about it (i.e. maybe by leaving stuff like the Deacon finale out - imo, the Xenomorph mural was enough).

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This remains one of my favorite cinematic offerings of the year - but it certainly has issues. I tend to think Ridley is as good as the script he's working with. Yes, he can elevate material beyond what is ever dreamed about on the page, but I think the written substance needs to be incredibly strong for him to deliver something truly brilliant. What separates Prometheus from Alien & Blade Runner is that the latter two films have such real characters who feel organic and three dimensional. Prometheus, on the other hand, trades largely in two dimensional stereotypes (David and, to a lesser extent, Elizabeth aside).

I'm not condemning the Prometheus script for these character depictions - many films commit the same offense. However, Ridley's best films have characters that are extremely multi-dimensional and challenge the viewers expectations in surprising and nuanced ways. Prometheus, other more commendable qualities aside, does not achieve that for the most part.

Where it does succeed is in an impeccable visual design - from the art direction and cinematography to the special effects. It also features a beautiful musical score and an extraordinary performance from Michael Fassbender (as well Noomi Rapace). The weak link, I agree with others, is the script. But not because it lacks answers or has plot holes. The characters, by and large, are simply caricatures. Any character development that is present is largely done in broad strokes. I must say that the character of David is an anomaly in this regard, as I think the character is both intelligently written and performed.

I think it's no secret that I like this film a lot - so these critiques are not meant to be damning, just honest observations. What I do love about the script is what many others seem to despise. I love the ambiguity of it all. There are so many ideas left unexamined about the engineers, the creation of humanity, and the origin of the "black ooze" that will ultimately lead to a whole bunch of trouble for the crew of the Prometheus and other characters of the Alien franchise. I love the open-endedness of these questions for the same reason I loved Lindelof's own controversial drama series Lost - I love to dissect things. I love hypothesizing about story elements and coming up with my own theories that may or may not be debunked in future sequels.

My hopes for Paradise involve Ridley continuing to impress with the outstanding visual and aural design of this world, while bringing in people to produce a more nuanced, evocative, and polished screenplay. If this is accomplished, I think the future sequel(s) can be quite extraordinary.

[Cutter_]

I just watched this again with the new Blu-ray and I gotta say where once I gave it a 7 out of 10 I now give it a 8 out of 10. The second viewing gave me a greater appreciation of this film. Thumbs up!

[UncleBuckWild]

Originally Posted by Cutter_

I just watched this again with the new Blu-ray and I gotta say where once I gave it a 7 out of 10 I now give it a 8 out of 10. The second viewing gave me a greater appreciation of this film. Thumbs up!

Prometheus is an excellent movie. The more you watch it the more you like it.

[KilloWertz]

Originally Posted by Aragorn84

[Show spoiler]Agreed 100%. On some level, I almost wish that Ridley had just scrapped everything Alien related and just created a fully original science fiction picture. But, then, I'm not sure he completely wanted to do that either. The film seems caught between two aspirations - wanting to do an Alien prequel and wanting to venture into something fresh and unexplored. Still, I enjoyed the connection to Alien. Perhaps, he could have just been more subtle about it (i.e. maybe by leaving stuff like the Deacon finale out - imo, the Xenomorph mural was enough).

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This remains one of my favorite cinematic offerings of the year - but it certainly has issues. I tend to think Ridley is as good as the script he's working with. Yes, he can elevate material beyond what is ever dreamed about on the page, but I think the written substance needs to be incredibly strong for him to deliver something truly brilliant. What separates Prometheus from Alien & Blade Runner is that the latter two films have such real characters who feel organic and three dimensional. Prometheus, on the other hand, trades largely in two dimensional stereotypes (David and, to a lesser extent, Elizabeth aside).

I'm not condemning the Prometheus script for these character depictions - many films commit the same offense. However, Ridley's best films have characters that are extremely multi-dimensional and challenge the viewers expectations in surprising and nuanced ways. Prometheus, other more commendable qualities aside, does not achieve that for the most part.

Where it does succeed is in an impeccable visual design - from the art direction and cinematography to the special effects. It also features a beautiful musical score and an extraordinary performance from Michael Fassbender (as well Noomi Rapace). The weak link, I agree with others, is the script. But not because it lacks answers or has plot holes. The characters, by and large, are simply caricatures. Any character development that is present is largely done in broad strokes. I must say that the character of David is an anomaly in this regard, as I think the character is both intelligently written and performed.

I think it's no secret that I like this film a lot - so these critiques are not meant to be damning, just honest observations. What I do love about the script is what many others seem to despise. I love the ambiguity of it all. There are so many ideas left unexamined about the engineers, the creation of humanity, and the origin of the "black ooze" that will ultimately lead to a whole bunch of trouble for the crew of the Prometheus and other characters of the Alien franchise. I love the open-endedness of these questions for the same reason I loved Lindelof's own controversial drama series Lost - I love to dissect things. I love hypothesizing about story elements and coming up with my own theories that may or may not be debunked in future sequels.

My hopes for Paradise involve Ridley continuing to impress with the outstanding visual and aural design of this world, while bringing in people to produce a more nuanced, evocative, and polished screenplay. If this is accomplished, I think the future sequel(s) can be quite extraordinary.

You like the film a lot? I would have never guessed....

[starkent08]

Wats dis movie gots to do with ET

[Aragorn the Elfstone]

Originally Posted by KilloWertz

You like the film a lot? I would have never guessed....

Well, I'm a subtle kinda fella...

[KilloWertz]

Originally Posted by Aragorn84

Well, I'm a subtle kinda fella...

I can tell. Kind of like me with Underworld.