Prometheus (2012)

[Arkadin]

got my Target 3D Prometheus today.
I love the slipbox; such a classy addition to the overall package.

[deltasun]

Originally Posted by Arkadin

got my Target 3D Prometheus today.
I love the slipbox; such a classy addition to the overall package.

The slipbox is nice. If anyone else is looking for one, I have 1 more available. Please PM me if interested.

[vidjunkie]

Originally Posted by deltasun

The slipbox is nice. If anyone else is looking for one, I have 1 more available. Please PM me if interested.

What do these look like? I may be interested, but have no idea what it looks like or what it comes with, or are you selling the box only?

Thanks

[FilmBufffff]

Originally Posted by greg_achen

To those who say the film wouldn't have benefited from an extended cut, including Ridley Scott himself, I MUST disagree. As a fan of the theatrical cut and someone who owns the 4-disc Collector's Edition, I had the opportunity to watch a special edit called the Weyland Investor's Cut that added back in the deleted and alternate scenes. In my opinion, the deleted and alternate scenes added a lot to the film and gave me a hell of a lot more enjoyable ride than the theatrical version. Story-wise, pacing-wise, character-wise, the whole film benefited from the extra scenes. I also MUCH prefer the alternate CGI Fifield attack and the extended fight scene between Shaw and the Engineer was SO much better executed and suspenseful than the abridged theatrical version.

The theatrical cut might be Ridley's Director's Cut, but my preferred version is this unofficial extended cut. Should Fox ever do an official extended cut, I will buy it in a second. THIS is the film that audiences should have received in theaters and I can't help but feel it would have been a little less critically panned by some had it.

I totally agree! It's like Scott had this great epic journey and decided at the last minute to cut all the connective character moments and just turn the film into a 2-hour thrill ride which Prometheus most certainly is not. Every scene that was cut makes you care more for the characters which was really important in buying into why these people are acting the way they are.

And don't even get me started on the deleted Fifield attack which is so much better than the one in the film it makes my head spin. Throughout the film the crew members experience with these creatures ratchets up the WTF factor with each new encounter and the scene where Fifield returns to the ship really needed that "Oh crap!" moment. He needed to look freaky and alien but instead we're left with what looks like a regular old zombie.

I also really hate that the scene with the engineer searching for Shaw was completely taken out. Besides the fact that it's a beautiful scene, it ratches up the tension to the point where you're cheering the fact that she's axing this god and then when he's finally taken down by the squid/facehugger, you feel like shouting "hell yea!"

Finally the last scene with Shaw talking with David was amazing and left you wanting more. They talked about the engineer saying he came from paradise and what not and it explains why Shaw would feel the urge to keep looking for answers. It also ends with what would have been the best line of the movie when she tells david that he doesn't understand because he's a "effing robot" and then preceeds to shove his head vioently in a dufflebag. That was a much more fitting ending to me after David had done so much to jeopardize their mission, even if he was just following orders. I felt like Shaw was way too nice to David in the theatrical cut.

It's all these little things that would have made the film much more than what we got and I hope beyond hope that Scott wakes up and realizes what a better movie he's got on his hands with all the deleted scenes added back in.

[raygendreau]

Originally Posted by groove93

Yea and because he wasn't a proven Screenwriter Fox didn't want to Gamble the Franchise on on him. Kinda sucks what happened as it lessons the risk being taken by all those involved.

Nothing against Lindelof but his "fanboy'ism" reminded me of what the Strauss Brothers did for AVP Requiem, and IMO, that's a no no!!!

Lindelof has taken a lot of the heat on the revised screenplay, but the buck really stops with Ridley. He runs the show. It is his way or the highway. The transition from Spaihts to Lindelof parallels the transition from Hampton Fancher to David Peoples on Blade Runner. In that case, Ridley got tired of Fancher's slow pace in writing. Peoples was brought in, read Fancher's screen play and told Ridley that he didn't think he could improve on it. Ridley proceeded to tell him exactly how to do it. Ridley directs everyone, including the writers. You can check the Enhancement Archives on the Blade Runner Collector's Edition. Check out Inception Date 1980, Screenwriting and Deal Making. Peoples will tell you just how it went with Ridley. And don't forget how O'Bannon was kicked to the curb on Alien.

Ridley rules with an iron hand. That isn't a bad thing. He is Sir Ridley Scott. He has a sword and he isn't afraid to use it when necessary.

[Underworld54]

Just watched my copy, it's a beautiful transfer. I'm actually glad the deleted scenes were left out. In my opinion they just didn't add a whole heck of a lot.

[greg_achen]

Originally Posted by FilmBufffff

I totally agree! It's like Scott had this great epic journey and decided at the last minute to cut all the connective character moments and just turn the film into a 2-hour thrill ride which Prometheus most certainly is not. Every scene that was cut makes you care more for the characters which was really important in buying into why these people are acting the way they are.

And don't even get me started on the deleted Fifield attack which is so much better than the one in the film it makes my head spin. Throughout the film the crew members experience with these creatures ratchets up the WTF factor with each new encounter and the scene where Fifield returns to the ship really needed that "Oh crap!" moment. He needed to look freaky and alien but instead we're left with what looks like a regular old zombie.

I also really hate that the scene with the engineer searching for Shaw was completely taken out. Besides the fact that it's a beautiful scene, it ratches up the tension to the point where you're cheering the fact that she's axing this god and then when he's finally taken down by the squid/facehugger, you feel like shouting "hell yea!"

Finally the last scene with Shaw talking with David was amazing and left you wanting more. They talked about the engineer saying he came from paradise and what not and it explains why Shaw would feel the urge to keep looking for answers. It also ends with what would have been the best line of the movie when she tells david that he doesn't understand because he's a "effing robot" and then preceeds to shove his head vioently in a dufflebag. That was a much more fitting ending to me after David had done so much to jeopardize their mission, even if he was just following orders. I felt like Shaw was way too nice to David in the theatrical cut.

It's all these little things that would have made the film much more than what we got and I hope beyond hope that Scott wakes up and realizes what a better movie he's got on his hands with all the deleted scenes added back in.

Wonderfully stated and I obviously couldn't agree more. I think for a lot of us who do love Prometheus, we see that there is a really great film in there, and the extended cut definitely reinforces that idea. To me, the extended cut felt more like a complete and satisfying film, capable of standing on its own, as opposed to the theatrical cut that many people describe as feeling like more like a setup for the sequel.

[V400]

just finished watching it again and does anybody know what

[Show spoiler]Weyland refers to when he says "There's nothing" right before he dies? David then answers "I know".

[Nommag]

Originally Posted by V400

just finished watching it again and does anybody know what

[Show spoiler]Weyland refers to when he says "There's nothing" right before he dies? David then answers "I know".

[Show spoiler]He was expecting the engineer to have knowledge on how to become immortal since they created humans and when he met the engineer and the engineer struck him down he knew there was no way to become immortal and of course David already new that.

[Justin83]

I definitely like the theatrical cut of the movie, but there are a few small moments from the deleted scenes that I personally think would have helped.

[Show spoiler]The Engineer Speaks... I get were Ridley was coming from with his decision to not show the Engineer speaking, but as a consequence we lost Weyland's speech about how "God's never die". Not only was Guy Pearce's performance great here, but it also made the Engineer's reaction be not so sudden and gave some overall thematic clarity to this pivotal scene.

I agree with the points already made about the extra dialog in the "Paradise" scene. Those few extra lines made Shaw's decision to try and find their home world more meaningful, and I really like how she delivered the "I want to go to paradise" line, with a hint of resentment/sarcasm. Especially since this is right at the end of the film it helps bring better thematic closure. But again, this was another causality of the late decision to not have the Engineer speak. And I definitely agree about the "effing robot" line... I don't like the soft version of that line at all. Adding the vulgarity/attitude turns it into such a cool line that fits into this gritty universe... it sounds like something Riply would have said!

I actually think the Fifield scene is fine as is. I think the Engineer/Shaw scene could have benefited from the extra build up, but I could go either way on that. The only scene that was completely cut that I liked a lot was the Vickers/Janek scene, but I can understand how at that point in the film it was difficult to include from an editing/pacing perspective.

[Monk360]

Just finished watching Prometheus in 3D on my Dell L702X laptop (w/NVIDIA 3D Vision); the 3D/picture quality was excellent.

So far, that makes for 14 viewings total:

Theatrical x 7
iTunes (w/Director's Commentary) x 1
iPhone x 3
2D Blu-ray x 1
2D Blu-ray (w/Writer's Commentary) x 1
3D Blu-ray x 1



It almost feels like I'm trying to close the gap between Prometheus viewings and Alien/Aliens viewings.

[raygendreau]

Originally Posted by V400

just finished watching it again and does anybody know what

[Show spoiler]Weyland refers to when he says "There's nothing" right before he dies? David then answers "I know".

Originally Posted by Nommag

[Show spoiler]He was expecting the engineer to have knowledge on how to become immortal since they created humans and when he met the engineer and the engineer struck him down he knew there was no way to become immortal and of course David already new that.

[Show spoiler]Ridley Scott and David think highly of the Lawrence of Arabia film. From Lawrence of Arabia: Prince Feisal: No Arab loves the desert. We love water and green trees. There is nothing in the desert and no man needs nothing.

[JoshKelhoffer]

Originally Posted by Arkadin

got my Target 3D Prometheus today.
I love the slipbox; such a classy addition to the overall package.

What's a "slipbox?"

[Hawkguy]

Originally Posted by JoshKelhoffer

What's a "slipbox?"

Like a slipcover, but thicker... and the case slides out from the side of the slip instead of the top/bottom.

[keb33509]

Slides out from one side, rather than top and bottom.

Haha Coopfilm, beat me to it.

[bytor]

Originally Posted by Nommag

[Show spoiler]He was expecting the engineer to have knowledge on how to become immortal since they created humans and when he met the engineer and the engineer struck him down he knew there was no way to become immortal and of course David already new that.

[Show spoiler] I think he's referring to what happens when you die. Weyland was experiencing his last moments of life and saw that there was no afterlife coming. Just nothingness

[raygendreau]

Originally Posted by Justin83

[Show spoiler]The Engineer Speaks... I get were Ridley was coming from with his decision to not show the Engineer speaking, but as a consequence we lost Weyland's speech about how "God's never die". Not only was Guy Pearce's performance great here, but it also made the Engineer's reaction be not so sudden and gave some overall thematic clarity to this pivotal scene.

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Considering the time and effort that was put into the creation of Engineerspeak, cutting it was puzzling, at best.

[Show spoiler]"While the design department worked away on the visual aspects of Prometheus, linguistics professor Dr Anil Biltoo had a painstaking task of his own: creating an entire alien language. Dr Biltoo, who appeared briefly in the movie as a holographic teacher for Michael Fassbender’s duplicitous space butler David, spent several months constructing the Engineers’ language for the production – an embellished form of very earthly Proto Indo-European languages.

For some, this might immediately raise a question: why go to such extraordinary lengths to build a fictional language? Wouldn’t it be just as easy to have the actors improvise some weird, alien-sounding noises and hope for the best?

“First of all, if you work with Ridley Scott, you don’t have that option,” Dr Biltoo replied when we put this question to him. “He’s a real stickler for detail. ‘I want something to sound like this. I want it to look like that. No, actually, I want it to look like that.’ His eye and ear for detail is uncanny.”

The use of a language grounded in earthly history also served to underline the Chariots Of The Gods-inspired (or At The Mountains Of Madness-inspired) notion that the Engineers had been quietly meddling with humanity’s upbringing. “All you have to do as an audience is join the dots,” Dr Biltoo said. “The Engineers must have been coming back to Earth to check on their experiment. In antiquity. In olden times. We have, in some shape or form, messed around with by the Engineers since that initial point of contact.”

For one sequence in the film, Michael Fassbender was required to learn a slab of Proto-Indo-European dialogue, which was, Dr Biltoo told us, roughly “the length of the Lord’s Prayer”. Ever the committed actor, Fassbender spent around 17 hours committing this complicated, apparently nonsensical collision of vowel sounds and guttural clicks to memory. On the day of filming, however, Ridley Scott had a last-minute change of creative direction; after Fassbender uttered his first line, Scott yelled, “Cut! Thank you, that’s a wrap.” http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/2296...ehind-the-film

[KilloWertz]

Originally Posted by Monk360

Just finished watching Prometheus in 3D on my Dell L702X laptop (w/NVIDIA 3D Vision); the 3D/picture quality was excellent.

So far, that makes for 14 viewings total:

Theatrical x 7
iTunes (w/Director's Commentary) x 1
iPhone x 3
2D Blu-ray x 1
2D Blu-ray (w/Writer's Commentary) x 1
3D Blu-ray x 1



It almost feels like I'm trying to close the gap between Prometheus viewings and Alien/Aliens viewings.

I loved Prometheus and all, but....

[Monk360]

Originally Posted by bytor

[Show spoiler] I think he's referring to what happens when you die. Weyland was experiencing his last moments of life and saw that there was no afterlife coming. Just nothingness

[Show spoiler]I think that Weyland discovered what David already knew: that our creators offer us no answers/hope/salvation.

[khan1670]

Wow, I just finished watching the deleted scenes and I agree most were really good and I actually would have liked them in the movie.

[Show spoiler]I thought the alternate Fifield attack was much better, with him looking like he was turning into an Alien. Perhaps it looked a little unfinished but still looked good.

I also liked the extended stuff with the Engineer in the ship and the fight with shaw. I thought it was cool how the Engineer had that look of wonder looking around even though he was stalking her.