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Old 01-26-2019, 04:54 AM   #30261
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I will have to check those out...
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Old 01-26-2019, 04:58 AM   #30262
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Fleischer's problem as far as his reputation goes is that he kept on making movies for too long because he loved the job, and those last pictures weren't great (Ashanti, Conan the Destroyer, Red Sonja, Million Dollar Mystery, etc). He also developed a reputation for taking over films after their original directors walked out (replacing John Huston on The Last Run and Sidney J. Furie on The Jazz Singer) that translated in many critics eyes to pure mercenary hack work. If he hadn't outlived his successes from the 50s, 60s and early 70s he'd probably have a much bigger critical reputation.

He also didn't bang his own drum that much: when I interviewed Basil Poledouris (no slouch on his film history), who scored Conan, he was unaware that Fleischer was the same man who had directed The Vikings even though that was one of his favorite films: he simply never made the connection.

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If you ever get a chance, check out the extras on the 20,000 Leagues Under The Sea DVD. There is a lot of a great info on Richard Fleischer and how Walt Disney gave him his big break even though his father was Walt's main competitor at one time. I believe it was his first big budget directing job if I remember correctly and Walt put a lot of pressure on him. The rest is history.

His other movies that I love are The Vikings (1958)
Fantastic Voyage (1966)
The New Centurions (1972)
Soylent Green (1973)
Mr. Majestyk (1974)
and I could have loved Crossed Swords (1977). It has one of Oliver Reed's great performances, Raquel Welch looking as hot as ever (but barely on the screen) and poor Mark Lester who was great in Oliver! but just couldn't carry his role in this one...
He wasn't someone who was on the top of many people's lists, but he made a number of very good to excellent movies. In addition to the ones you mention:

Three early 50s noirs, all in one or another of Warner's Noir DVD collections:
Armored Car Robbery
His Kind of Woman *
The Narrow Margin

* John Farrow was credited, but allegedly, Fleischer re-shot the film

A handful from Twilight Time:

Violent Saturday (OOP)
Doctor Doolittle
Che!
10 Rillington Place
The New Centurions

A couple from Kino Lorber Studio Classics:

Compulsion
Mr. Majestyk

And what I think is his masterpiece: the American half of Tora! Tora! Tora!

On the other hand, he also made Conan the Destroyer and Red Sonja, so there's that...

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Old 01-26-2019, 05:21 AM   #30264
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His Kind of Woman *

* John Farrow was credited, but allegedly, Fleischer re-shot the film
It was one of many RKO films that Howard Hughes just couldn't let go and was in reshoot hell. I interviewed Fleischer in 1994, and he briefly spoke about it (there's a whole chapter on it in his memoirs):

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“I needed a favour - a big favour, like letting me out of my contract - and he said, ‘OK, I’ll do it if you’ll do this for me, and it’ll only take you about ten days to do the writing and the shooting, it’s really easy.’

“I said, ‘Great, let’s do it.’

“Well, we ended up building the entire 150ft yacht, inside and out and the ten days turned into eight months and I redid the thing three times.”
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Fleischer's problem as far as his reputation goes is that he kept on making movies for too long because he loved the job, and those last pictures weren't great (Ashanti, Conan the Destroyer, Red Sonja, Million Dollar Mystery, etc). He also developed a reputation for taking over films after their original directors walked out (replacing John Huston on The Last Run and Sidney J. Furie on The Jazz Singer) that translated in many critics eyes to pure hack work. If he hadn't outlived his successes from the 50s, 60s and early 70s he'd probably have a much bigger critical reputation.

He also didn't bang his own drum that much: when I interviewed Basil Poledouris (no slouch on his film history), who scored Conan, he was unaware that Fleischer was the same man who had directed The Vikings even though that was one of his favorite films: he simply never made the connection.
Thats crazy !
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Old 01-26-2019, 07:14 AM   #30266
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Robert Harris @Home Theater Forum on TT's The Return of Frank James:

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Except for a bit of black crush, the color is essentially pleasant, and in fully lit scenes, there's enough shadow detail to go around.
and on DVD Beaver screenshots:

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Contrast is nowhere near as problematic as those examples. I’m shocked, as I always trust frame grabs
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Old 01-26-2019, 01:43 PM   #30267
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I'd like to see some accurate caps from someone. It's unfortunate that there is indeed black crush happening, at least it's not as bad as what beaver shows, according to RAH at least.
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Old 01-26-2019, 06:40 PM   #30268
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It was one of many RKO films that Howard Hughes just couldn't let go and was in reshoot hell. I interviewed Fleischer in 1994, and he briefly spoke about it (there's a whole chapter on it in his memoirs):
That one chapter is worth the purchase price of the entire book. In addition to being an underrated director, he could also write well. His memoir is sadly out of print and hard to find, but if you come across it, it's worth reading.
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Old 01-26-2019, 06:47 PM   #30269
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The chapter on Kurosawa's complete megalomaniacal meltdown during the shooting of Tora! Tora! Tora! is another jawdropper, too.
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I like Fleischer a lot. I'll have to track down a copy of the book.
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I have loved Tony Curtis since I was a kid. I think it has something to do with watching The Great Race every time it came on TV....
I’ve enjoyed him since I saw him in “Some Like It Hot” as a kid.

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About Boston Strangler, but I consider Richard Fleischer to be severely underrated! I just don’t hear people talk about him enough!
I have been slowly getting into Fleischer; he’s had quite a varied resume.

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I love Richard Fleischer, especially his work at RKO(The Clay Pigeon, The Narrow Margin, Armored Car Robbery, and his work on His Kind of Woman). What he was able to do at RKO with almost non-existent budgets was amazing.
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Anyone knows when TT/SAE's next sale may be, per previous years?
I’m betting we’re due for one in February; I’ve noticed that a lot of their sales have coincided with Kino Lorber sales and Kino’s next sale is February. If it’s a 15 title sale and not a distributor sale (MGM, Fox, etc.), I’m hoping “The Last Hurrah” is apart of it. I caught it recently on TCM and enjoyed it quite a bit.
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I'm getting super excited for the Talk Radio artwork and specs reveal. This is a top ten most wanted title for me.

TT put together a nice package for U-Turn so here's hoping they can get Oliver Stone and Eric Bogosian in to do a little something for Talk Radio.
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Regarding Return of Frank James, yes it's not as bad as the screenshots, but the contrast is still jacked and there is black crush. To the point of being a bit distracting.
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I watched "The Boston Strangler" last night. I found it to be a generally good thriller with the highlights, to me, being the cinematography, use of split-screen, the interrogation sequence, and Tony Curtis' performance.
Watched this over the weekend as well. Agree with your assessment here.

While I was watching, I was interrupted by a passing worker who knocked on the door to offer his roof cleaning services. Considering the strangler's method of getting inside, I'd be lying if I said this encounter didn't add to the atmosphere of the movie haha.
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He wasn't someone who was on the top of many people's lists, but he made a number of very good to excellent movies. In addition to the ones you mention:

Three early 50s noirs, all in one or another of Warner's Noir DVD collections:
Armored Car Robbery
His Kind of Woman *
The Narrow Margin

* John Farrow was credited, but allegedly, Fleischer re-shot the film

A handful from Twilight Time:

Violent Saturday (OOP)
Doctor Doolittle
Che!
10 Rillington Place
The New Centurions

A couple from Kino Lorber Studio Classics:

Compulsion
Mr. Majestyk

And what I think is his masterpiece: the American half of Tora! Tora! Tora!

On the other hand, he also made Conan the Destroyer and Red Sonja, so there's that...
Fleischer was not really on my radar, but looking over his filmography, including many films I've seen, it is impressive how diverse it is. I never would have guessed the same director who made 10 Rillington Place and The Boston Strangler also made Doctor Doolittle.
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I'm getting super excited for the Talk Radio artwork and specs reveal. This is a top ten most wanted title for me.

TT put together a nice package for U-Turn so here's hoping they can get Oliver Stone and Eric Bogosian in to do a little something for Talk Radio.
Same here. Love this Stone film. One of his best.
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Richard Fleischer also directed 20,000 Leagues Under The Sea, which was ironic at the time because his father's animation studio was Disney's main rival during the 1930s.
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“What have we got to worry about? We’re only adrift in an open sea with a drunken captain and an engine that’s liable to explode at any moment.”
“Perfectly ordinary situation. Happens every day.”


Humphrey Bogart was by all accounts no fan of Beat the Devil, dismissing its admirers because "only phonies think it's funny." But that was hardly surprising since he lost several teeth in a car accident during the shoot that director John Huston apparently found hysterically funny, reportedly necessitating a then-little known Peter Sellers dubbing some of his dialogue, and then lost most of the $400,000 he invested in it through his production company when it flopped. The latter isn’t entirely surprising when the 50s audiences lured in by a reunion of The Maltese Falcon’s Huston, Bogart and Peter Lorre with Robert Morley standing in for Sidney Greenstreet that the posters (see above) sold as a two-fisted romantic adventure found instead a flippant smart Alek spoof with in-jokes that many probably didn’t catch, like Bernard Lee’s character being named after associate producer (and future director of The Innocents) Jack Clayton. Like It’s a Wonderful Life it eventually found its second life after appearing to fall into the Public Domain and becoming a staple of local TV stations and cheap video labels, albeit usually in the re-edited and censored version released in the US, but it’s fair to say that in any form it’s a divisive film that audiences either love or hate.

This time the stuff that dreams are made of are uranium deposits in Mombassa that everyone wants to exploit behind the British government’s back – if only they could actually get there. Stuck in a small Italian port are a motley bunch of thoroughly undesirables calling themselves The Committee – Bogart’s ‘middle-aged roustabout’ who may or may not have once been a man of substance (“It’s not that he means to break his word, he just forgets that he’s given it”), Morley’s domineering fitness-obsessed moneyman (“You mean to say there are parts of the Dark Continent where you won’t be received like the Prodigal Son?”), the surprisingly less than prominently billed Lorre’s German called O’Hara (“What’s our wide-eyed Irish leprechaun doing outside my door?”), Ivor Bernard’s rodentially diminutive and very intense ex-British army psychopath (“Say what you want to about Hitler, he had his points”) and Marco Tulli’s sad sack Italian (“I’m going upstairs and read my Bible”), with Bogie’s Anglophile ‘wife’ Lollabrigida (“She seems to have a very real feeling for English country life”) adding a touch of glamour.

While they’re waiting for the drunken captain of their ship to get round to repairing the engine, two more passengers drift into their orbit and sow confusion, Jennifer Jones’ flaky unqualified liar with no control of her romantic fantasies who begins every whopper with the words “In point of fact” (“Let’s just say she uses her imagination rather than her memory”) and her puffed-up ex-Royal Marine and ‘ruddy refugee from Earl’s Court’ husband Edward Underdown (“You need any friends you can get. The only thing standing between you and a watery grave is your wits, and that’s not my idea of adequate protection”).

Along the way Jones imagines herself in love with Bogart (and imagines much more, none of it helpful, remotely credible or conducive to her husband’s health), Lollabrigida half-heartedly imagines Underdown is her ticket to the stately homes and beautiful lawns she dreams of and the Committee don’t know what to imagine from one moment to the next but are so determined not to be outwitted by interlopers that they end up not quite thwarting but certainly slightly derailing their plans on a regular basis instead. It’s the kind of film that talks fast and often wittily, never tells the truth and is full of relentless activity and plotting that constantly goes nowhere as everyone circles everyone else with a view to the main chance and which leaves some viewers as frustrated as its main characters while amusing and delighting those on its wavelength. Even the latter might find some irritants – for me it’s Jones’ thoroughly committed turn as the kind of fantasist who should be committed but gets a free pass because she’s just another eccentric in a film full of them even though she’s probably far more irritating and resistible than she’s meant to be – but there’s too much to compensate, from the colourful supporting cast (special mention to Mario Perrone’s blithe purser cheerfully announcing each new disaster) to its gleeful celebration of corruption and moral turpitude.



Unlike the many bootleg DVD releases over the years that use the re-edited US version with some narration from Bogart, Twilight Time’s Region A-locked Bluray is the original UK version, uncensored, un-narrated and in completely chronological order, and beautifully restored despite Columbia only having access to 60% of the original negative – indeed, it’s done so well you can’t tell which parts are from the negative and which from a fine grain UK print. With excellent definition and contrast it looks like it could have been shot yesterday, or at least if people as good at their job as Oswald Morris still regularly shot in black and white. It’s hard to imagine the film ever looking better on home video.

Along with an audio commentary by Lem Dobbs, Julie Kirgo and Nick Redman and a trailer for the restored version’s 2016 reissue, the disc also includes Alexander Cockburn Beat the Devil, a 22-minute interview with the son of the author Claud Cockburn, who wrote the novel under the pseudonym (one of many) James Helvick because he was listed as one of the 260 most dangerous communists in the world by a Senate Committee and had been under constant surveillance by British Intelligence since 1934. It’s a somewhat unfocused affair at times, but there’s plenty of interesting information – Cockburn and his wife conspired to leave copies all around the house of a family friend when Huston was visiting in the hope he’d read it, which worked so well that the director made lengthy (and then hideously expensive) trans-Atlantic phone calls to Bogart to read him the novel and persuade him to buy the film rights – and goes to some lengths to dispel Truman Capote’s claims to have written the whole thing (as well as Huston’s unmentioned claims they made up the plot as they went along) when Cockburn Sr., Anthony Veiller and Peter Viertel had all written the earlier drafts by comparing sections of the film to their verbatim parts of the novel that reveal that many of the bon mots Capote took the credit for were simply transcribed rather than created by him.

All in all a very pleasing presentation of a film that looked condemned to third and fourth generation dupe purgatory: it smokes, it drinks, it philosophises….

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