Twilight Time Discussion Thread

[SeanJoyce]

Originally Posted by bwdowiak

Wanted to ask... which other Twilight Time releases, like The Bravados, have great cinematography?

Specifically westerns, Garden of Evil.

[78deluxe]

Originally Posted by blurayisnice

This is unfortunately very hard to proof. Sometimes, you just lose... and that sucks. One of the sad realities of life. Turn it into a "win" by learning from it so that you may help your future self and others. Nothing wrong with harvesting good karma

karma isnt' a "thing"

However, this kind of thing isn't difficult to prove if you take precautions.

Any time I ship or recieve a package worth more than say $600 you can count on the fact that I videotape packaing or unpacking. It is a simple process, once the transaction is truly complete, the files can get deleted.

I usually do this for personal packages worth even less, but above that amount there is no need for me to have the risk of loss.

If someone is sending something back as "not as described" I don't care if it was only $20, I'm videotaping the return and will use it against the actual fraudulent party if they are trying to take advantage of me or the system.

[RCRochester]

Originally Posted by koberulz

Yes, and they'd take a report and put it in a drawer somewhere, and someone might glance at it when they get bored.

If someone is scamming hundreds of thousands, they might start an actual investigation.

What they do in theory and what they do in practice are not the same thing.

While I admittedly don't know how things work in the United States, if this happened to me in Canada, I would absolutely file a report with my local police department where it would be assigned to a constable for follow-up. It wouldn't get "put in a drawer somewhere" because all files are assigned electronically and have to be actively closed. It would be a pretty simple investigation too seeing as you have a known suspect with a full name and address.

Would something come of it in the end? Likely no, because even if you have a complainant acting on good faith, it would be difficult to prove legally unless the suspect is spooked at having the cops calling him to come in for an interview and "comes clean". However, it's still worth it because if there are multiple people filing reports about the same thing, then a bigger investigation could be launched down the road.

There would also be the option of pursuing it civilly within Small Claims Court.

[lilboyblu]

Originally Posted by bwdowiak

Wanted to ask... which other Twilight Time releases, like The Bravados, have great cinematography? I was drawn to TB because of Peck and the film's respectable rating on IMDB. I had no idea that the cinematography was going to be so good.

I'm wondering if I some other titles should be put on my radar on the merits of cinematography. I know about the James Wong Howe films and Leave Her to Heaven. Off the top of my head, I can't think of any others that left an impression. I'm sure that there are many I haven't seen, though.

Originally Posted by BamaDullard

The Tall Men, Bonjour Tristesse, The Man from Laramie, Violent Saturday.

I guess I’m a sucker for CinemaScope, but you can’t tell me those movies aren’t gorgeous.

Yep, just familiarize yourself with the Fox CinemaScope catalog (any of the films, really) and you’ll be set. You may want to grab what you can sooner rather than later though due to original Fox no longer existing.

[iamnoone]

Originally Posted by RCRochester

Hey, even the LAPD has guys who just hand out speeding tickets.

Haha, that's about ALL the LAPD does these days.

As far as internet fraud, it's happened to me where the buyer ripped me off on a $220 sale, claiming never received, which I found out later he had done numerous times prior to others (see below). I went through the US Postal Inspector, they won't do anything, but I wouldn't suggest to anyone not to contact them, or try the FBI as well. But since this transaction was in a different state, my local law enforcement couldn't help, and law enforcement in the fraudster's town wouldn't do anything, either. It's really a civil matter to them. I contacted the local police of the fraudster and his local USPS branch, the US Postal Inspector and all that, but no one really cares or does anything, at least in my case.

The only option given was to file a small claims case, which isn't practical when he's in a state across the country. And for $220?

I did find the scammer's name and very long scammer history afterwards on a "badbuyer" website that people can add names and incidents to. I suggest everybody contribute to that if scammed. I always search it for a buyer's name whenever a big sale happens. Also, take video of sending/receiving as others have said, and signature confirmation on anything over $100.

It's the wild west out there.

[DukeTogo84]

Hopefully TT has a few more westerns in store for us. They released some good ones, but plenty left to be released.

[DawnShadow]

Originally Posted by Professor Echo

Good point. Like for instance actually placing trolls on the ignore list rather than just theorizing about it.

That’s a solid point, I’m thinking both he and I should take you up on your advice.

Or maybe I’ll just ignore the posts and get on with life instead of protecting myself with a silly list...

[koberulz]

Originally Posted by RCRochester

While I admittedly don't know how things work in the United States, if this happened to me in Canada, I would absolutely file a report with my local police department where it would be assigned to a constable for follow-up. It wouldn't get "put in a drawer somewhere" because all files are assigned electronically and have to be actively closed. It would be a pretty simple investigation too seeing as you have a known suspect with a full name and address.

Would something come of it in the end? Likely no, because even if you have a complainant acting on good faith, it would be difficult to prove legally unless the suspect is spooked at having the cops calling him to come in for an interview and "comes clean". However, it's still worth it because if there are multiple people filing reports about the same thing, then a bigger investigation could be launched down the road.

There would also be the option of pursuing it civilly within Small Claims Court.

Well yes, I meant "put in a drawer" figuratively, not literally. As in, nothing would come of it.

[jayembee]

Originally Posted by Professor Echo

Hmm, interesting. I had no idea you were such an authority on the FBI.

Even more impressive given that he's from Australia.

[jayembee]

Originally Posted by koberulz

Yes, and they'd take a report and put it in a drawer somewhere, and someone might glance at it when they get bored.

If someone is scamming hundreds of thousands, they might start an actual investigation.

What they do in theory and what they do in practice are not the same thing.

Tell that to the people who are being prosecuted for copyright infringement, even if no money is being made from it.

[jayembee]

Originally Posted by DukeTogo84

So it looks like The Man From Hong Kong wasn't a Fox title as I don't see it any mention of them on the box.

Either way, I hope we get some more titles soon.

Fox was just the US theatrical distributor. They didn't have any ownership stake in it.

[dkelly26666]

Originally Posted by StarDestroyer52

And this very catchy song:

[Show spoiler]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqGPbEzOZSQ

LOL, thannnnnkks, I have been humming that damn song all afternoon, now

[Professor Echo]

Originally Posted by DawnShadow

That’s a solid point, I’m thinking both he and I should take you up on your advice.

Or maybe I’ll just ignore the posts and get on with life instead of protecting myself with a silly list...

It would be a dream come true for me to be on your ignore list.

[DukeTogo84]

Originally Posted by jayembee

Fox was just the US theatrical distributor. They didn't have any ownership stake in it.

Damn. I was hoping that wasn't the case. I was hoping it was FOX title because that could possibly mean that there are still a few FOX title to be released. I mean it could still be the case, just a bit more unlikely.

[DawnShadow]

Originally Posted by Professor Echo

It would be a dream come true for me to be on your ignore list.

Unfortunately for you, I’m not pitiful enough to feel the need to utilise such a thing. I pray you have some other realistic dreams that may come true for you in your lifetime My apologies for the inconvenience kind sir.

[SpaceBlackKnight]

Originally Posted by DukeTogo84

Damn. I was hoping that wasn't the case. I was hoping it was FOX title because that could possibly mean that there are still a few FOX title to be released. I mean it could still be the case, just a bit more unlikely.

Fox was indeed the original US distributor for Man from Hong Kong, but they only had theatrical and TV rights. No one knew who had the US video rights and AFAIK was never released on even VHS for a very long time. I suspect the Australian producers recently claimed all US rights and Twilight Time (under Screen Archives) were interested enough in making a deal with them for it.

[trentdiesel]

Originally Posted by DawnShadow

That’s a solid point, I’m thinking both he and I should take you up on your advice.

Or maybe I’ll just ignore the posts and get on with life instead of protecting myself with a silly list...

Its not really protection though since most of the biggest idiots are the most often quoted members on here, I have a nice little ignore list going and yet I still have to see their incessant whining about delivery delays etc as I scroll

[StarDestroyer52]

Originally Posted by trentdiesel

Its not really protection though since most of the biggest idiots are the most often quoted members on here, I have a nice little ignore list going and yet I still have to see their incessant whining about delivery delays etc as I scroll

Yep, it would be nice if the ignore list also expanded to quote posts so I wouldn't have to see those I put on ignore which kind of defeats the purpose of an ignore list.

[Professor Echo]

Originally Posted by trentdiesel

Its not really protection though since most of the biggest idiots are the most often quoted members on here, I have a nice little ignore list going and yet I still have to see their incessant whining about delivery delays etc as I scroll

But it does offer some shield against the dog crap that lies in wait for you at every opportunity because at one point years before you dared to disagree with them about something. Since emptying my Ignore List as a gesture of good will over the holidays my same three old stalkers are once more clinging to the bottom of my shoes.

Anyway, back on topic. I don’t expect this new incarnation of TT to have the capital or contacts to necessarily secure any contracts with the majors, but it will be interesting to see what else turns up from them. I’m envisioning a small label output similar to ClassicFlix, but if they are sitting on some of the unreleased licensed properties from the old TT, as some speculate, that would be great.

[Dollar Colonel]

It's difficult not to imagine that if the folks involved with the original TT thought there was any way to further the original mission, they wouldn't have held on to the name and did it themselves. Of course I know nothing about the business or whether there were any contractual obligations with SAE to give them the right of first refusal.