Twilight Time Discussion Thread

[Aclea]

Originally Posted by oildude

Pre-order date: Wednesday, June 6th at 4 pm EST

Starring Rita Hayworth and Victor Mature

Am I the only one who thinks that the uncropped version of that picture of Victor at that angle has him holding a camera?

[belcherman]

Originally Posted by Aclea

Am I the only one who thinks that the uncropped version of that picture of Victor at that angle has him holding a camera?

Maybe. In my mind’s eye, he was definitely holding something, but it wasn’t a camera.

[Monterey Jack]

Originally Posted by Dailyan

All these June titles

[Show spoiler]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUDcTLaWJuo

That video kickstarted my puberty back in the day.

[StarDestroyer52]

I just got my shipping confirmation for May's pre-order

[Page14]

Originally Posted by belcherman

Maybe. In my mind’s eye, he was definitely holding something, but it wasn’t a camera.

Funny stuff.

[belcherman]

I just noticed that Amazon has a pre-order up for Frank Zappa's 200 Motels on DVD. I wonder if this might be a future Twilight Time release?

[oildude]

Pre-order date: Wednesday, June 6th at 4 pm EST

Starring Marilyn Monroe, Yves Montand, and Tony Randall.

Directed by George Cukor.

Special Features: Isolated Music Track / Original Theatrical Trailer

[jmspls72]

[QUOTE=Aclea;15093787]It depends on the score, the composer and the film, but sometimes it's a terrific option. Case in point: The Blue Max, which includes not one but two isolated score tracks for Jerry Goldsmith's remarkable score - one an extended version of the full score, the other including alternate cues and filling in the gaps with a film historians' audio commentary. Goldsmith wrote a lot more music than was used in the film, which opted to reuse his main theme in places he'd written different cues for and in others remove them entirely, and although the deleted cues aren't mixed in with the soundtrack, it's amazing to hear his bravura six minute cue for the German attack sequence that was completely removed in favor of sound effects finally against the sequence, which really transforms the scene and leaves you questioning the sanity of whoever decided to ditch it.[/QUOTE

Is the Blue Max edition mentioned above still available or is it out of print. Caught this on FX one day and have been wanting to get a Blu Ray.

Got lucky EBay had one for 25 usd. It is the Japanese release. I am hoping it has same extra mentioned in the above post. I couldn’t tell The Blu Ray was in Japanese. LOL

[redxrebellion]

Originally Posted by oildude

Pre-order date: Wednesday, June 6th at 4 pm EST

Starring Marilyn Monroe, Yves Montand, and Tony Randall.

Directed by George Cukor.

Never saw this one. How does it rank or compare to her other popular films?

[StarDestroyer52]

Is the Blue Max edition mentioned above still available or is it out of print. Caught this on FX one day and have been wanting to get a Blu Ray.

The TT version is OOP. Though despite the site listing, the French version is Region Free according to back art and Amazon France's site:

[bdgking]

Cat Ballou is going to be sold out very fast if anyone is interested .
I noticed at SAE their is under 50 and it is already sold out at twilight time .
Anyone whom doesn't have it may want to get one fast before it's gone luckily I got mine

[SeanJoyce]

Originally Posted by bdgking

Cat Ballou is going to be sold out very fast if anyone is interested .
I noticed at SAE their is under 50 and it is already sold out at twilight time .
Anyone whom doesn't have it may want to get one fast before it's gone luckily I got mine

I've gone back and forth on it because I'm a huge Lee Marvin fan, but being honest with myself...I hated it

Shame, because it's a great release.

[mja345]

I watched the BD of "Comes of a Horseman" last night. This is, without a doubt, one of my favorite discoveries of the past year. Jason Robards plays wealthy rancher and titanic prick Jacob Ewing, who rules over a region in the 1940s rural West (it's unidentified, but I'm guessing Montana or Wyoming). His dream is to buy up all of the land in the region, along with his wealthy business partner (George Grizzard, the father-in-law in "Bachelor Party"), so they can have complete dominion over it, as their fathers did. Standing in their way is Ella Connors (Jane Fonda), whose family has also been ranching on the land for multiple generations, and a war veteran (James Caan) who has bought a small plot of land from her. Ella's hired hand (Richard Farnsworth) also serves as an important figure in the proceedings.

This film is an overlooked masterpiece of the 70s IMO. Directed by the terrific Alan J. Pakula, it's a slow burn that never really hits the expected notes of most Westerns. I liken parts of it to Peter Fonda's "The Hired Hand" or Robert Altman's "McCabe and Mrs. Miller" in that it really takes advantage of the open-ended form of the Western and lets things go slow and understated, to really use the nature of the genre to study the characters with deep nuance. It's not quite an anti-Western though, as "McCabe and Mrs. Miller" is. It strikes a balance between maintaining classical elements and creating a new approach.

The performances are simply flawless all-around. This is one of my favorite performances by Fonda. She simply disappears into this role as a hardened, no-nonsense woman who doesn't take shit from anyone. When a beautiful woman like Jane Fonda can make you completely forget about her looks for two hours without any intentional effort to make her seem unattractive, you know that's a special performance. Caan is reliably great as a laconic man who can explode at any moment, but he suppresses that edge far more than he does typically. Farnsworth steals the show in many of his scenes as a wise, experienced hand who is often forced to remain subservient to wealthy tyrants. And Jason Robards is magnificent as Ewing, who is completely heartless.

This film has really gotten lost in the ether over the years, for whatever reason. I think it gets caught in the middle of subverting the Western genre and honoring it, so perhaps some viewers didn't know what to make of it at the time. It's also Jane Fonda's least glamorous role I've seen her in by a wide margin. She completely puts her beauty and star power on the backburner in this film, so maybe some were put off by that. Just some theories. There are many films that you wonder, "How the hell have more people not appreciated this over the years?" Nonetheless, this is a superb film with a cast that is difficult to beat. If you haven't picked this up, I highly recommend it.

Twilight Time, I believe, put out a notice when this film was released that the BD was taken from the best source possible and that there is some print damage. I thought it looked quite good and the vast majority of fans of more obscure cinema should have absolutely no problem with the transfer.

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Originally Posted by mja345

I watched the BD of "Comes of a Horseman" last night. This is, without a doubt, one of my favorite discoveries of the past year.

Thanks. Your write up jogs vague memories of this being a special film at the time it was released, which is why I purchased it. I've never seen it before and am looking forward to it.

[Dailyan]

Originally Posted by mja345

I watched the BD of "Comes of a Horseman" last night. This is, without a doubt, one of my favorite discoveries of the past year.

Thanks to your mini review; I'll probably pick it up in the future.

[plateoshrimp]

Originally Posted by redxrebellion

Never saw this one. How does it rank or compare to her other popular films?

Let's Make Love is not as highly regarded as Marilyn Monroe's other films, and some people don't like it at all. It's a light-hearted musical romance and doesn't try to be anything more. If you are a Marilyn Monroe fan you probably will like it as she is good in this one given the material. If you aren't a Marilyn Monroe fan you might not like it. I'm a huge fan so I'm very happy that Twilight Time is releasing this. I will order it on June 6th, pay full price and have no regrets.

[bdgking]

Cat Ballou now looks to be sold out .

I noticed titles going fast at twilight time almost sold out are :

Night of the generals ( sold out at SAE )
The emperor of the north ( sold out at SAE )
american buffalo
guess who's coming to dinner
mississippi mermaid
Save your legs ( only 4 copies remaining )

I also noticed sold out at twilight time but likely almost sold out at SAE and still available are :

The hound of the baskerville
Hardcore
The train


If anyone is interested I got 4 of these titles myself & looking forward to them .

I hope in their next sale they have twilight samurai & stormy weather maybe even hawaii . Also would be nice if they had a lot of titles at $6,95 & under $10 again that would be great !

[Namuhana]

I got my copy of The Birth of a Nation today. I'll have to try and carve out some time to watch it this upcoming week. It's actually a blind-buy, so here's hoping I don't fully regret the purchase.

[billy pilgrim]

Originally Posted by mja345

i watched the bd of "comes of a horseman" last night. This is, without a doubt, one of my favorite discoveries of the past year.

[Show spoiler]jason robards plays wealthy rancher and titanic prick jacob ewing, who rules over a region in the 1940s rural west (it's unidentified, but i'm guessing montana or wyoming). His dream is to buy up all of the land in the region, along with his wealthy business partner (george grizzard, the father-in-law in "bachelor party"), so they can have complete dominion over it, as their fathers did. Standing in their way is ella connors (jane fonda), whose family has also been ranching on the land for multiple generations, and a war veteran (james caan) who has bought a small plot of land from her. Ella's hired hand (richard farnsworth) also serves as an important figure in the proceedings.

This film is an overlooked masterpiece of the 70s imo. Directed by the terrific alan j. Pakula, it's a slow burn that never really hits the expected notes of most westerns. I liken parts of it to peter fonda's "the hired hand" or robert altman's "mccabe and mrs. Miller" in that it really takes advantage of the open-ended form of the western and lets things go slow and understated, to really use the nature of the genre to study the characters with deep nuance. It's not quite an anti-western though, as "mccabe and mrs. Miller" is. It strikes a balance between maintaining classical elements and creating a new approach.

The performances are simply flawless all-around. This is one of my favorite performances by fonda. She simply disappears into this role as a hardened, no-nonsense woman who doesn't take shit from anyone. When a beautiful woman like jane fonda can make you completely forget about her looks for two hours without any intentional effort to make her seem unattractive, you know that's a special performance. Caan is reliably great as a laconic man who can explode at any moment, but he suppresses that edge far more than he does typically. Farnsworth steals the show in many of his scenes as a wise, experienced hand who is often forced to remain subservient to wealthy tyrants. And jason robards is magnificent as ewing, who is simply heartless.

This film has really gotten lost in the ether over the years, for whatever reason. I think it gets caught in the middle of subverting the western genre and honoring it, so perhaps some viewers didn't know what to make of it at the time. It's also jane fonda's least glamorous role i've seen her in by a wide margin. She completely puts her beauty and star power on the backburner in this film, so maybe some were put off by that. Just some theories. There are many films that you wonder, "how the hell have more people not appreciated this over the years?" nonetheless, this is a superb film with a cast that is difficult to beat. If you haven't picked this up, i highly recommend it.

Twilight time, i believe, put out a notice when this film was released that the bd was taken from the best source possible and that there is some print damage. I thought it looked quite good and the vast majority of fans of more obscure cinema should have absolutely no problem with the transfer.

[Show spoiler]

Great write up, mja. This film had fallen off my radar. In fact, I had it confused with another film, also starring Jane Fonda called The Electric Horseman with Robert Redford. Just realized my mistake when I read your review.

I'll definitely put this on my to buy list. Thanks again for turning me onto a semi obscure potential classic like this. Those unknown or forgotten classics are what I enjoy most about film collecting.

BTW, just recently watched my ignored copy of The Happy Ending based on your recommendation. Enjoyed it a lot, especially John Forsythe, who can play a clueless husband as good as anyone. I did find that his wife, Jean Simmons, didn't elicit much sympathy from me. I kept thinking, all you're doing is complaining about your life when you're a stay at home wealthy wife with servants and no kids. Just get off your butt, quit drinking, get a job, go back to school or something, but quit whining.

Although I didn't sympathize much with the wife, the costars are what made this film for me. Shirley Jones is a standout as the free wheeling college friend of Simmons who chose not to marry, but earned her "freedom" from marriage by becoming the mistress to a long line of rich men, currently filled by Lloyd Bridges. The other two costars who I felt shine in this film were the always dependable and underrated Tina Louise who is unhappily married to philanderer Dick Shawn who excels at playing a semi sleaze. The most interesting role might be Bobby Darin wearing a little fou fou mustache and sporting a really bad Italian accent as a desperate on the make aging gigolo.

These '60s domestic films always get to me. I think about what it must have been like to be a woman living then and dealing with the fact that until then, women were either *****s or wives, or worked as nurses, secretaries, or waitresses. Thank god things have gotten immeasurably better since my mother's lifetime on the equality front for women.
Thanks for the head's up on these little known gems.

[Snl40boi]

Low on cash this week so I was able to only order one movie during the sale. I ordered sense and sensibility. Wish I had more money to buy 2 more oh well.