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Old 07-09-2018, 04:44 PM   #28901
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Is there any film that is carried more by the charm of the stars than "Two for the Road"? I re-watched it this week and it struck me how much is put on the plate of Albert Finney and Audrey Hepburn in that film. They portray two incredibly spoiled, inherently unlikable people, yet they never become unlikable. It's a remarkable achievement and it's a hard film to conceive with lesser talents.

Finney pulls off, IMO, what is a remarkable performance in that he portrays a character that is written as a complete a-hole, and he infuses it with a certain sarcasm and intrigue. This is a character, with the way it's written, that could have easily veered into being insufferable, but Finney is so masterful as an actor that he never lets it get close to being that. Truly a testament to what an incredible actor he is.

Audrey Hepburn is equally great in the film. Her character is written paper-thin compared to Finney's IMO. This is a character that so many actresses would allow to become an airhead, with no substance, to not allow the feelings of frustration to rise above the fortunate circumstances of the couple. But Hepburn, being one of the truly special actresses of the last 50 years, makes the character vulnerable and conflicted. And, because she's Audrey Hepburn, infuses the character with a sophistication and intelligence.

This is a film I love. You can watch it with your significant other and pass it off as a romantic film, but it's really a deep meditation on the nature of relationships. Finney and Hepburn deliver remarkable performances and bring out so much more in these characters than what in on the page IMO. There are films where scripts provide shelter for the actors, but this film is an example where actors take any deficiencies in the characters written on the page and absolutely obliterate them with their charisma.
Not a Twilight Time release - not even a Bluray but a Warner archive MOD DVD-R that will almost certainly never be upgraded - but The Picasso Summer makes an interesting if not entirely satisfying double-bill with Two for the Road, largely because, in a case of buyer's remorse, that's what the studio tried to turn it into after the first cut was delivered:



Along with Alpha Beta the most obscure entry in Albert Finney’s filmography – and Ray Bradbury’s too, for that matter - The Picasso Summer is pretty much the dictionary definition of what the French call a ‘film maudit’: a cursed film. Made by Bill Cosby’s production company in the days before he was a pariah, originally shot in 1969 by Oscar winning Sundays and Cybele director Serge Bourguignon from a short story by Bradbury (who wrote the screenplay under the name Douglas Spaulding, a character from Dandelion Wine), it’s about a couple who travel to France in the hope of meeting Pablo Picasso to thank him for all the joy his work has given them (well, him, since his wife has no real say in the matter). Picasso dropped out of the picture because of shenanigans with bullfighter, former friend and go-between with the producers Luis Miguel Dominguín and guest star Yul Brynner’s wife and, as was so often the case, Bradbury fell out with his director (his first choice had been Francois Truffaut, who dropped out after reading Bradbury’s too ‘conventional’ script) – so much so that after the rough cut was screened they actually physically attacked each other and had to be separated while Cosby stormed out of the screening room, announcing “I don’t need you people to waste my money. I’m going to go waste it myself!”

He wasn’t the only one who was unhappy. Warner Bros. were obviously hoping for another Two from the Road – it even stars Yvette Mimieux, the wife of that film’s director, alongside Finney – but got something rather different and much more experimental and hated the rough cut so much that they hired another director, Robert Sallin, and The Bill Cosby Show writer Ed. Weinberger (billed as Edwin Boyd), to reshoot and rework it – and then shelved the film, now minus Brynner’s cameo, Barbra Streisand’s vocal version of Michel Legrand’s main theme and Bourguignon’s screen credit, before eventually dumping it as a late night TV movie through their TV arm in 1972. Which was especially ironic since the project began as a proposed half hour TV special in 1967…

Of course, to be a true film maudit it has to be unfairly maligned, and it’s hard to judge if that’s the case since Bourguignon was so disgusted with the process he never made another film and its doubtful his version even exists anymore or that there would ever be enough interest to attempt to restore it. Certainly the tone and style are all over the place – some scenes use flash frames, freeze frames, split screen montages and animated sequences, other settle for lightweight picturesque sightseeing – and at times it’s obvious from the changed appearance of the leads, along with most of Dominguín’s scenes being in English but his big monologue being delivered in Spanish with an English voice over, that some time has passed between Bourguignon’s shoot and Sallin’s.

The biggest problem, as Truffaut bluntly told Bradbury when bowing out, is the script, which doesn’t delve very deep into its characters or Picasso’s work (a brief bit of Mansplaining from Finney aside), surprisingly little of which appears in the film. Where Two for the Road used its continental road trips to dissect the dissolution of a marriage as ennui took hold, this seems more sporadically pleasant travelogue than character study, emotional reawakening or investigation of art. The trip begins on a whim and even though it briefly geographically separates the two leads when Finney goes off in a sulk to Spain to try to get an introduction to the great man from Dominguín, it never really develops into an obsession so much as one of those holidays where nothing really works out. We never discover anything more about the characters than we knew in the first reel, and by the end Finney is clearly struggling with some awkward nothing dialogue while Mimieux generally fares better in the second half with less screen time.



How well Wes Herschensohn’s three animated sequences work is a matter of individual interpretation and whether you think they’re in tune with the paintings’ intentions or crass expansions (or indeed both at the same time). Certainly a case could be made for the first of them turning his War and Peace mural on its head by turning it into Peace and War to give it more drama, while the inclusion of an animated Picasso painting from live action documentary footage of death camp victims is at best problematic. Dominguín does get a scene where he explains the need to confront death in both his bullfighting and Picasso’s art as a prelude to the last of these, but it’s only in a scene between Mimieux and Peter Madden’s blind artist that the film really finds a sense of the life enhancing magic that art can bring.

The end result is gossamer thin, mostly pleasant until the lengthy bullfighting detour (and yes, animal lovers, you do see a bull tormented and killed after Dominguín convinces Finney he needs to fight a bull to understand Picasso) and pretty superficial, ending exactly as you expect it to, given some surface charm by Vilmos Zsigmond’s cinematography (with additional contributions from Henri Alekan and David Shore) and Michel Legand’s memorable score. Whether it was ever anything more we’ll probably never know.

To the best of my knowledge the film has only had one screening in the UK, on Channel 5 in the channel’s early days and precious few outings in the States since its original broadcast, making Warner Archive’s manufactured on demand US DVD-R the only practical way to see the film at the moment. Sadly the disc is a bit problematic: picture quality is for the most part good, with fluctuations in quality possibly down to the different cinematographers and shoots, but the 1.78:1 transfer has clearly been cropped from what was presumably the originally intended 1.66:1, with the framing too tight in some shots – it’s particularly noticeable in the split screen montages which crop the top of heads off. No extras.

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[Show spoiler]Is there any film that is carried more by the charm of the stars than "Two for the Road"? I re-watched it this week and it struck me how much is put on the plate of Albert Finney and Audrey Hepburn in that film. They portray two incredibly spoiled, inherently unlikable people, yet they never become unlikable. It's a remarkable achievement and it's a hard film to conceive with lesser talents.

Finney pulls off, IMO, what is a remarkable performance in that he portrays a character that is written as a complete a-hole, and he infuses it with a certain sarcasm and intrigue. This is a character, with the way it's written, that could have easily veered into being insufferable, but Finney is so masterful as an actor that he never lets it get close to being that. Truly a testament to what an incredible actor he is.

Audrey Hepburn is equally great in the film. Her character is written paper-thin compared to Finney's IMO. This is a character that so many actresses would allow to become an airhead, with no substance, to not allow the feelings of frustration to rise above the fortunate circumstances of the couple. But Hepburn, being one of the truly special actresses of the last 50 years, makes the character vulnerable and conflicted. And, because she's Audrey Hepburn, infuses the character with a sophistication and intelligence.

This is a film I love. You can watch it with your significant other and pass it off as a romantic film, but it's really a deep meditation on the nature of relationships. Finney and Hepburn deliver remarkable performances and bring out so much more in these characters than what in on the page IMO. There are films where scripts provide shelter for the actors, but this film is an example where actors take any deficiencies in the characters written on the page and absolutely obliterate them with their charisma.
Henry Mancini's score is lovely as well. It's definitely one of his best and this film is a great example of TT's isolated score feature truly shining.
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Old 07-10-2018, 12:55 AM   #28903
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If you have a pretty large collection, then you have to come up with a way of categorizing them. If I did it completely alphabetically, and were that anal about it, my girlfriend would probably leave me. Labels are by far the easiest way to categorize a collection IMO. You have all your TTs on one shelf, your Criterions on another, and other labels in other spots. Only way I've ever been able to sort a fairly large collection.
I've mine separated by country. I do have sections for TV shows, music docs and concerts, and a section just for cult/horror and Corman type films. My Chinese films are separated by martial arts and not.
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I have my collection organized in boxes waiting to be shipped out, but ideally I would have one set of shelves for Blu-ray movies, one set of shelves for DVD movies, one set of shelves for television (mostly DVD, just the top shelf for Blus), and those would all be arranged alphabetically (with some house variations, like sequels and prequels get filed under the original, numbers are spelled out and spaces are ignored). But I'd also have a section for directors, with their work arranged chronologically, because that is a major collecting point for me. I can understand arranging by genre, but for me this is the most convenient way to be able to scan the collection to remember if I have a movie or not, without having to remember which label published it or which broad genre I decided was the best fit.
I'd go with genre too, although in my case, my collection is divvied up in what I call "mood".
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I have three shelves full of films. One for Criterions and Kinos (have them double-stacked), one for TTs, Shout Factory, Indicator, Arrow, etc., and one for all other labels like Code Red, Scorpion, Vinegar Syndrome, and others. Luckily, I've found a woman who tolerates the insanity of being a film collector, realizing this is key to my experience as a human being, and lets me have a room to indulge in my insanity wherever we go, whatever we do. It's such catharsis, with all the terrible shit that happens in the world on a daily basis, to go into your own video store after a long day. I have a buddy who recently started collecting again and he told me he recently started to understand this phenomenon.
I wanted to like your post, but didn't wanna incriminate myself.
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Went to check out SAE's site, and look what I found!


July 12th - A SPECIAL TWILIGHT TIME SALE! 15 TITLES FOR $15 EACH!

Sale begins Friday, July 13th at 4pm Eastern and the sale ends Monday, July 23rd at 4pm Eastern.
Orders must be placed during the sale period to obtain the sale pricing. No past, currently pending or future orders will qualify.


TO SIR, WITH LOVE (1967)
THE REMAINS OF THE DAY (1993)
COUNT YORGA, VAMPIRE (1970)
HARLOCK SPACE PIRATE (2013 / 2 DISC / 2D AND 3D)
THE LAST DETAIL (1973)
THUNDERBOLT AND LIGHTFOOT (1974 / ENCORE EDITION)
ROLLERBALL (1975 / ENCORE EDITION)
THEATRE OF BLOOD (1973)
MOSCOW ON THE HUDSON (1984)
THE STONE KILLER (1973)
THE VALACHI PAPERS (1972)
THE CRIMSON KIMONO (1959)
PLAY DIRTY (1968)
BOB & CAROL & TED & ALICE (1969)
HUSBANDS AND WIVES (1992)


Personally, I'm definitely in for Bob & Carol & Ted & Alice and Husbands And Wives.
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Went to check out SAE's site, and look what I found!


July 12th - A SPECIAL TWILIGHT TIME SALE! 15 TITLES FOR $15 EACH!

Sale begins Friday, July 13th at 4pm Eastern and the sale ends Monday, July 23rd at 4pm Eastern.
Orders must be placed during the sale period to obtain the sale pricing. No past, currently pending or future orders will qualify.


TO SIR, WITH LOVE (1967)
THE REMAINS OF THE DAY (1993)
COUNT YORGA, VAMPIRE (1970)
HARLOCK SPACE PIRATE (2013 / 2 DISC / 2D AND 3D)
THE LAST DETAIL (1973)
THUNDERBOLT AND LIGHTFOOT (1974 / ENCORE EDITION)
ROLLERBALL (1975 / ENCORE EDITION)
THEATRE OF BLOOD (1973)
MOSCOW ON THE HUDSON (1984)
THE STONE KILLER (1973)
THE VALACHI PAPERS (1972)
THE CRIMSON KIMONO (1959)
PLAY DIRTY (1968)
BOB & CAROL & TED & ALICE (1969)
HUSBANDS AND WIVES (1992)


Personally, I'm definitely in for Bob & Carol & Ted & Alice and Husbands And Wives.
Definitely in for The Remains of the Day and The Crimson Kimono. Everybody should definitely pick up “Thunderbolt and Lightfoot” that don’t own it.
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Old 07-12-2018, 09:22 PM   #28908
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nice sale, but I already own 8 of those titles so nothing for me this round....
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Old 07-12-2018, 09:48 PM   #28909
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Everybody should definitely pick up “Thunderbolt and Lightfoot” that don’t own it.
I second that emotion:



"You stick with me kid. You're gonna live forever."

How times change. Back in 1974, after paying his dues co-writing Silent Running and Magnum Force, Michael Cimino was one of the most promising new directors on the scene thanks to his directorial debut Thunderbolt and Lightfoot (the characters are named after Rock Hudson and Jeff Morrow's in Douglas Sirk's Captain Lightfoot). In 1978 he was an Oscar winner whose place in movie history seemed assured by The Deer Hunter. Two years later he was the poster boy for directorial excess and hubris in the wake of the unjustly maligned Heaven’s Gate. By the 21st Century he was unemployable and his name a ghost story to scare directors who went over budget.

Thunderbolt’s once-sterling reputation seems to have fallen victim alongside Cimino’s career. It’s become one of the less-remembered films from the days when Clint Eastwood ruled the box-office yet it holds up as one of the best pictures of its over-rated decade, managing the neat trick of both delivering what the audience wants and subverting their expectations at the same time.

Eastwood plays a crook on the run from ex-partners in crime George Kennedy and Geoffrey Lewis (often hysterically funny here) who teams up with Jeff Bridges' extrovert drifter to retrieve the loot from a previous robbery only to find his old accomplices tagging along and things – naturally – not going at all to plan. It’s an almost perfectly judged mixture of comedy and action with both feet firmly on the ground despite the more absurd moments in a way that would be almost unthinkable today. There's a real rapport between the outstanding cast and an affection for the characters that adds to the impact of the very Seventies ending – not only is the central pairing of Eastwood’s old hand and Bridges’ cocksure kid far more convincing and genuinely affecting than it has any right to be, but Kennedy and Lewis’ untrustworthy partners in crime are beautifully drawn too.

Cimino handles the mood swings adeptly and even injects a subtle undercurrent of sexual ambiguity that never gets in the way of the entertainment (well, it was inspired by a Rock Hudson film...). While his direction is bang on target - there’s a great use of mid-Western landscape too - it’s the strength of his script that keeps the film surprisingly fresh today. It’s basically a road movie crossed with a heist movie, but Cimino throws in so many unexpected and quirky left turns that catch you off guard that you never get the feeling that you’re going over the same old ground. This was a terrific movie in 1974, and if anything it's an even better one today. Just remember; never accept a lift from a man with a raccoon in the passenger seat and a trunk full of bunnies!

While MGM/UA's DVD release had a poor non-anamorphic transfer and only a trailer as extra, Twilight Time's limited edition Blu-ray is a massive improvement with a fine 2.35:1 transfer, isolated score track, film historians' audio commentary, trailer and booklet, finally giving the film some of the love it deserves on home video.
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Old 07-12-2018, 09:59 PM   #28910
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Two years later he was the poster boy for directorial excess and hubris in the wake of the unjustly maligned Heaven’s Gate.
There is a great story that Cimino expected to still have three remaining days to shoot it, and Clint Eastwood, the producer, decided "No, today is our last day," and Cimino managed to curtail his fussiness (which, though nascent, was already starting to blossom) and get through three days worth of set-ups in one day.
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Thunderbolt and Lightfoot is one of my all time favourite movies, I even bought a copy of the region free Aussie disc as a back-up in case my TT copy went defective (this was before they released an encore version). Just a great piece of 70s cinema.

The Last Detail is also a cool movie, and anyone who likes Vincent Price should get Theatre of Blood, it's one of his campiest and funniest films (similar to the first Dr. Phibes movie but with a Shakespearean twist).
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Definitely in for The Remains of the Day and The Crimson Kimono. Everybody should definitely pick up “Thunderbolt and Lightfoot” that don’t own it.
I'll get The Crimson Kimono and probably another one. I already have the other two you mentioned. You won't regret getting The Remains of the Day. That's one of my all time favorites. Anthony Hopkins and Emma Thompson are at the peak of their powers in this one and the Twilight Time transfer is beautiful. I loved this movie when it was first released and the older I get the more it haunts me. I highly recommend it.
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Old 07-12-2018, 11:51 PM   #28913
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I'll get The Crimson Kimono and probably another one. I already have the other two you mentioned. You won't regret getting The Remains of the Day. That's one of my all time favorites. Anthony Hopkins and Emma Thompson are at the peak of their powers in this one and the Twilight Time transfer is beautiful. I loved this movie when it was first released and the older I get the more it haunts me. I highly recommend it.
I know I'm in the minority on this one, but while I love The Silence Of The Lambs, too, I think Hopkins' performance in The Remains Of The Day is his best. The subtlest shifts in his expression speak volumes. It's an acting clinic, and Emma Thompson matches him every step of the way.
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I know I'm in the minority on this one, but while I love The Silence Of The Lambs, too, I think Hopkins' performance in The Remains Of The Day is his best. The subtlest shifts in his expression speak volumes. It's an acting clinic, and Emma Thompson matches him every step of the way.
Thoughts on Magic?
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Old 07-13-2018, 12:20 PM   #28915
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Thoughts on Magic?
Liked his performance and the film well enough, but I didn't love it as much as I wanted to on first viewing. It was good.
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I know I'm in the minority on this one, but while I love The Silence Of The Lambs, too, I think Hopkins' performance in The Remains Of The Day is his best. The subtlest shifts in his expression speak volumes. It's an acting clinic, and Emma Thompson matches him every step of the way.
You can count me in that minority, too. Hopkins' subtlety and restraint really fit the character and made Stevens sympathetic, and Emma Thompson is full of life as Miss Kenton. I have a stack of unwatched movies to get to but I think I will revisit this one very soon.
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Always hopeful that some day TT will release "Trouble with Angels" and "The Long Ships." I am nothing if not patient!
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Does anyone else have orders from the last Fox sale that are still pending? I ordered Peyton Place and Pretty Poison on June 30th from Screen Archives and the order still says pending. I'm curious if it's just my order or if there is a problem with one of those titles.
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You can count me in that minority, too. Hopkins' subtlety and restraint really fit the character and made Stevens sympathetic, and Emma Thompson is full of life as Miss Kenton. I have a stack of unwatched movies to get to but I think I will revisit this one very soon.
I don't think we are a "minority." Everyone I know, actors and non-actors. who has seen both, admire "Lambs" but recognize (as does Hopkins himself) his "Remains" performance as a pinnacle in his illustrious career. He is simply brilliant and should have been Oscarred for it.
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Does anyone else have orders from the last Fox sale that are still pending? I ordered Peyton Place and Pretty Poison on June 30th from Screen Archives and the order still says pending. I'm curious if it's just my order or if there is a problem with one of those titles.
I'd say that they have a lot of back-orders. "Peyton Place" and "Pretty Poison" still have a fairly decent quantities on both sites. I ordered on the first day of the sale (Doctor Dolittle, Hush Hush Sweet Charlotte, The Keys of the Kingdom, Pretty Poison and Where the Sidewalk Ends) and I had initially thought that Charlotte was holding up my order but when I contact support they told me there where a bunch of orders. If worst comes to worse than contact SAE support. It could be worse, there are people still WAITING for their Kino shipments from their big sale in June.
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