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I gotta say that's one of my favorite covers I've seen in a long time. Just four guys chillin'. Great film as well.
I like to think that just cropped from the edge of that image is a banana stand run by an Afghan gentleman...
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I like to think that just cropped from the edge of that image is a banana stand run by an Afghan gentleman...
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Pre-order date: Wednesday, August 8, 2018, at 4 pm EST

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Managed to snag "Flint" for a whopping 31.77 after a $25 off coupon and some "spare" PayPal funds.

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I thought there'd be October's announcements today, but guess not...
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I thought there'd be October's announcements today, but guess not...

I thought so, too...maybe they didn't want to compete with the various SDCC announcements? Guess we'll just have to wait until next week.

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Congratulations to Nick Redman and Julie Kirgo of Twilight Time. Married July 18, 2018. Best wishes for a continued very happy future together.

I suspect this may have a bit to do with the October announcements delay

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Congratulations to Nick Redman and Julie Kirgo of Twilight Time. Married July 18, 2018. Best wishes for a continued very happy future together.

I suspect this may have a bit to do with the October announcements delay.
The announcements can wait. Congratulations to the both of them!
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Congratulations to Nick Redman and Julie Kirgo of Twilight Time. Married July 18, 2018. Best wishes for a continued very happy future together.

I suspect this may have a bit to do with the October announcements delay.
Being married myself, I can see how a honeymoon could delay work/business a little. Great for them!
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Thought I'd leave a review for one of my favorite Westerns, "The Man From Laramie". After going through the Indicator Budd Boetticher-Randolph Scott box set, which is awesome, I had a temptation to revisit this Anthony Mann-Jimmy Stewart collaboration.

Stewart plays Will Lockhart, who rides into a small town in New Mexico to deliver supplies, along with a rag-tag gang. He is an enigmatic man and only tells the attractive shop owner (Cathy O'Donnell) who he meets that he comes from Laramie. As he's planning on leaving town, he asks her if it's okay if he can collect salt for free and haul it away and she tells him it's no problem. With her advice, he goes down to the salt mines where local man-child enforcer Dave Waggoman (Alex Nicol) confronts him and burns down his wagons and kills his mules. It turns out that Waggoman is the son of the local magnate Alec (Donald Crisp) and Will soons runs afoul of them, despite developing a begrudging respect for Alec and his right-hand man Vic (Arthur Kennedy).

This film is so fascinating for its time because the characters are so ambiguous. Stewart is supposed to be the hero, but it's completely unclear what his motivations are, as revenge is quickly an afterthought. O'Donnell's character is there to ostensibly be a love interest for Stewart, but she is engaged to Vic, so it's completely uncertain. Vic's role, in lesser Westerns, would to be an enemy of Lockhart, but he's quite neutral. Alec Waggoman, the town ruler, is actually a sympathetic character. This film is incredibly nuanced in how it views its characters, which makes for a fascinating watch. Jimmy Stewart, who could play nice, sympathetic guys as well as anyone, plays a character who is difficult to read. He's clearly not a bad man from the outset, but it's uncertain why he's sticking around in this small town with an entrenched power structure.

Another reason it's worth noting, within the genre, is that Stewart starts out as a man seemingly surrounded by supplies and manpower and ends up completely alone. It allows him to go from his "nice guy" persona to a man merely trying to survive. And what happens in the film is ultimately uncertain because nothing is defined in black and white terms. I can't say that I recommend just going out and picking this up because it's unfortunately OOP now (should've left this review when it was in print, I apologize), but seek it out, as this is one of the top Westerns of the 50s and I believe any fan of the genre will really enjoy it.

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Since Sony released it, i thought they were suppose to wait 3 years, I was surprise it was still on TT.
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Since Sony released it, i thought they were suppose to wait 3 years, I was surprise it was still on TT.
There have been a couple of titles where Sony got to release their own edition of a licensed-by-TT film before the window was up in exchange for another Sony title that TT wanted. Well, not quite. Christine was past its original window, and TT re-licensed it for an encore edition. Then Sony decided to do its own edition. But the same kind of "trade" was made as was done later for Guess Who's Coming to Dinner.
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Thought I'd leave a review for one of my favorite Westerns, "The Man From Laramie". After going through the Indicator Budd Boetticher-Randolph Scott box set, which is awesome, I had a temptation to revisit this Anthony Mann-Jimmy Stewart collaboration.

Stewart plays Will Lockhart, who rides into a small town in New Mexico to deliver supplies, along with a rag-tag gang. He is an enigmatic man and only tells the attractive shop owner (Cathy O'Donnell) who he meets that he comes from Laramie. As he's planning on leaving town, he asks her if it's okay if he can collect salt for free and haul it away and she tells him it's no problem. With her advice, he goes down to the salt mines where local man-child enforcer Dave Waggoman (Alex Nicol) confronts him and burns down his wagons and kills his mules. It turns out that Waggoman is the son of the local magnate Alec (Donald Crisp) and Will soons runs afoul of them, despite developing a begrudging respect for Alec and his right-hand man Vic (Arthur Kennedy).

This film is so fascinating for its time because the characters are so ambiguous. Stewart is supposed to be the hero, but it's completely unclear what his motivations are, as revenge is quickly an afterthought. O'Donnell's character is there to ostensibly be a love interest for Stewart, but she is engaged to Vic, so it's completely uncertain. Vic's role, in lesser Westerns, would to be an enemy of Lockhart, but he's quite neutral. Alec Waggoman, the town ruler, is actually a sympathetic character. This film is incredibly nuanced in how it views its characters, which makes for a fascinating watch. Jimmy Stewart, who could play nice, sympathetic guys as well as anyone, plays a character who is difficult to read. He's clearly not a bad man from the outset, but it's uncertain why he's sticking around in this small town with an entrenched power structure.

Another reason it's worth noting, within the genre, is that Stewart starts out as a man seemingly surrounded by supplies and manpower and ends up completely alone. It allows him to go from his "nice guy" persona to a man merely trying to survive. And what happens in the film is ultimately uncertain because nothing is defined in black and white terms. I can't say that I recommend just going out and picking this up because it's unfortunately OOP now (should've left this review when it was in print, I apologize), but seek it out, as this is one of the top Westerns of the 50s and I believe any fan of the genre will really enjoy it.
Long a favorite of mine, but then Mann is my favorite director:



"This is the most unfriendly country I've ever been in."

The last of the collaborations between James Stewart and director Anthony Mann (unless you count the few days Mann worked on Night Passage before falling out with his star), The Man From Laramie is the most ambitious even if it isn't always completely successful. On one level it's a standard revenge Western, with Stewart looking for the gunrunners who caused his brother's death, but his hunt takes in rancher Donald Crisp's powerful but dysfunctional dynasty and its divisions as well, and its through them that the film moves into almost mythically tragic territory. With foreman and almost adopted son Arthur Kennedy devotedly but thanklessly running the ranch for him and constantly trying to protect the old man from the feckless stupidity and sadism of his natural son Alex Nicol it soon becomes clear that not all the bad guys are that bad. Indeed, everything Kennedy does wrong is done out of the best motives that are constantly thwarted, turning what could easily have been a stereotypical villain into a genuinely tragic figure as he realises the man he regards as a second father sees him only as a mere employee (interestingly, James Gray used this same character arc for Joaquin Phoenix's character in The Yards). Even Crisp's autocrat is tormented by recurring dreams of a stranger riding in to destroy his family as he slowly goes blind, believing Stewart to be a virtual horseman of the apocalypse.

Along with the tormented and frustrated characters it's also surprisingly violent for its day. While it wasn't unusual for Stewart's characters to carry their own stigmata in Mann's Westerns (in Bend of the River he even hides a scar on his neck from a botched lynching), here he really suffers as he's beaten up, dragged across salt flats and through a fire and then shot in the hand in one scene alone, all of which only serves to fuel his hatred more until the affable character we met at the film's beginning has become a distant memory. In many ways it reverses the usual journey Mann put Stewart through in their Westerns: rather than going from bitterness to reluctant hero, here he starts out `nice to everybody' (as the very out-of-keeping title song puts it) to end the film all but consumed by rage.

As usual, there's admirable economy in the writing - there's a lot of plot and several key characters but it manages bring them all over and incorporate an almost mystical sense of tragic destiny without seeming rushed or contrived, offering a satisfying Western with some substance. It's also the closest Mann ever got to his long cherished Western version of King Lear that he was finally preparing when he died during the shooting of A Dandy in Aspic. The only one of the Mann-Stewart films together to be shot in Scope, Mann uses it superbly, and not just in the mountain location shots. Check out the beautiful establishing shot of the town on Sunday evening, the Mexicans and Indians heading for church on one side of the frame while on the other the white townsfolk drink and gamble.
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I guess the Italian distributor wasn't big on subtlety.
Hey, it's a Catholic country, I'm just surprised they didn't put 'James Stewart is Jesus Christ - and this time he's out for revenge' on the poster.

Though they did have an alternate design:



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Thought I'd leave a review for one of my favorite Westerns, "The Man From Laramie". After going through the Indicator Budd Boetticher-Randolph Scott box set, which is awesome, I had a temptation to revisit this Anthony Mann-Jimmy Stewart collaboration.

Stewart plays Will Lockhart, who rides into a small town in New Mexico to deliver supplies, along with a rag-tag gang. He is an enigmatic man and only tells the attractive shop owner (Cathy O'Donnell) who he meets that he comes from Laramie. As he's planning on leaving town, he asks her if it's okay if he can collect salt for free and haul it away and she tells him it's no problem. With her advice, he goes down to the salt mines where local man-child enforcer Dave Waggoman (Alex Nicol) confronts him and burns down his wagons and kills his mules. It turns out that Waggoman is the son of the local magnate Alec (Donald Crisp) and Will soons runs afoul of them, despite developing a begrudging respect for Alec and his right-hand man Vic (Arthur Kennedy).

This film is so fascinating for its time because the characters are so ambiguous. Stewart is supposed to be the hero, but it's completely unclear what his motivations are, as revenge is quickly an afterthought. O'Donnell's character is there to ostensibly be a love interest for Stewart, but she is engaged to Vic, so it's completely uncertain. Vic's role, in lesser Westerns, would to be an enemy of Lockhart, but he's quite neutral. Alec Waggoman, the town ruler, is actually a sympathetic character. This film is incredibly nuanced in how it views its characters, which makes for a fascinating watch. Jimmy Stewart, who could play nice, sympathetic guys as well as anyone, plays a character who is difficult to read. He's clearly not a bad man from the outset, but it's uncertain why he's sticking around in this small town with an entrenched power structure.

Another reason it's worth noting, within the genre, is that Stewart starts out as a man seemingly surrounded by supplies and manpower and ends up completely alone. It allows him to go from his "nice guy" persona to a man merely trying to survive. And what happens in the film is ultimately uncertain because nothing is defined in black and white terms. I can't say that I recommend just going out and picking this up because it's unfortunately OOP now (should've left this review when it was in print, I apologize), but seek it out, as this is one of the top Westerns of the 50s and I believe any fan of the genre will really enjoy it.
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"This is the most unfriendly country I've ever been in."

The last of the collaborations between James Stewart and director Anthony Mann (unless you count the few days Mann worked on Night Passage before falling out with his star), The Man From Laramie is the most ambitious even if it isn't always completely successful. On one level it's a standard revenge Western, with Stewart looking for the gunrunners who caused his brother's death, but his hunt takes in rancher Donald Crisp's powerful but dysfunctional dynasty and its divisions as well, and its through them that the film moves into almost mythically tragic territory. With foreman and almost adopted son Arthur Kennedy devotedly but thanklessly running the ranch for him and constantly trying to protect the old man from the feckless stupidity and sadism of his natural son Alex Nicol it soon becomes clear that not all the bad guys are that bad. Indeed, everything Kennedy does wrong is done out of the best motives that are constantly thwarted, turning what could easily have been a stereotypical villain into a genuinely tragic figure as he realises the man he regards as a second father sees him only as a mere employee (interestingly, James Gray used this same character arc for Joaquin Phoenix's character in The Yards). Even Crisp's autocrat is tormented by recurring dreams of a stranger riding in to destroy his family as he slowly goes blind, believing Stewart to be a virtual horseman of the apocalypse.

Along with the tormented and frustrated characters it's also surprisingly violent for its day. While it wasn't unusual for Stewart's characters to carry their own stigmata in Mann's Westerns (in Bend of the River he even hides a scar on his neck from a botched lynching), here he really suffers as he's beaten up, dragged across salt flats and through a fire and then shot in the hand in one scene alone, all of which only serves to fuel his hatred more until the affable character we met at the film's beginning has become a distant memory. In many ways it reverses the usual journey Mann put Stewart through in their Westerns: rather than going from bitterness to reluctant hero, here he starts out `nice to everybody' (as the very out-of-keeping title song puts it) to end the film all but consumed by rage.

As usual, there's admirable economy in the writing - there's a lot of plot and several key characters but it manages bring them all over and incorporate an almost mystical sense of tragic destiny without seeming rushed or contrived, offering a satisfying Western with some substance. It's also the closest Mann ever got to his long cherished Western version of King Lear that he was finally preparing when he died during the shooting of A Dandy in Aspic. The only one of the Mann-Stewart films together to be shot in Scope, Mann uses it superbly, and not just in the mountain location shots. Check out the beautiful establishing shot of the town on Sunday evening, the Mexicans and Indians heading for church on one side of the frame while on the other the white townsfolk drink and gamble.
Thanks to you both for perceptive and trenchant reviews of The Man From Laramie. Many people don't realize just how much thought and care used to go into westerns. They weren't just action movies or travelogues, they were mindful about life and human nature and America without being intellectual. They could be as meaningful as any A-list drama; in fact, many westerns were actually sophisticated dramas with all the hoity-toity baloney removed. In Europe, the western was a foreign art film.

I've studied the genre for a long time and I've concluded Anthony Mann directed several of the best westerns ever made. The Man From Laramie is at the peak of the genre.

I would also add, Twilight Time has chosen well which westerns to release.

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Hey, it's a Catholic country, I'm just surprised they didn't put 'James Stewart is Jesus Christ - and this time he's out for revenge' on the poster.

Though they did have an alternate design:

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Not so much Blazing Saddles as Blazing Horses...
Why spoil a wonderful review with a backhanded quip like that?

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Why spoil a wonderful review with a backhanded quip like that?
1. It's not part of the review: it's a response to Belcherman's post about the lack of subtlety in the Italian poster.

2. Italian movie marketing, particularly in the 50s and 60s, was notorious for using violent religious imagery that seems pretty clearly aimed at the majority Catholic population. While Hollywood producers would use the Bible as an excuse to get away with sex and orgies onscreen, Italian distributors often used 'blood of Christ' imagery for promoting violent action movies and dramas (it's notable that The Passion of the Christ's biggest overseas market was Italy, so it was still potent box-office there well into this century). In the case of Laramie the design is quite appropriate if in your face, but they're clearly using the stigmata as the key image in the campaign.

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I think the stigmata analogy might be stretching it.

Subtlety is hardly the point of a western poster.

Stewart is shot in the hand and there's blood, so the image is entirely appropriate for a poster.
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