Twilight Time Discussion Thread

[Hoke Moseley]

Originally Posted by SeanJoyce

This Ragtime vs. Chariots of Fire debate is irrelevant anyways, since Williams' Raiders of the Lost Ark theme is the best score of '81.

Tangerine Dream forever...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fElf...ature=youtu.be

[SeanJoyce]

Originally Posted by AKORIS

I'm gonna have to say John Barry's BODY HEAT score is my favorite from '81

I'll certainly grant John Barry consideration. Tangerine Dream...not so much

[78deluxe]

Originally Posted by Aclea

But how much of the rest of the score can you remember? There is a lot more to film scoring than writing one memorable theme.

I've been paid to write, compose and record music, so I know a little bit about it.

Writing a timeless melody will leave a far more lasting impression than a bunch of stuff no one remembers.

I'd rather listen to the Thief Tangerine Dream soundtrack than Chariots, but I also recognize something that is truly iconic.

Same deal with Jaws, not a soundtrack Id sit down and listen to but an absolute masterpiece.

[Aclea]

Originally Posted by 78deluxe

I've been paid to write, compose and record music, so I know a little bit about it.

Writing a timeless melody will leave a far more lasting impression than a bunch of stuff no one remembers.

I'd rather listen to the Thief Tangerine Dream soundtrack than Chariots, but I also recognize something that is truly iconic.

Same deal with Jaws, not a soundtrack Id sit down and listen to but an absolute masterpiece.

So in other words writing a memorable earworm main tune that gets widely quoted out of context of the film itself is more important than becoming part of the fabric of the character, setting and drama and supporting the film's dramatic intentions? Jaws is a perfectly judged scorewith a lot more to it than the oft-parodied main theme, but while the main theme is effective, parts of Vangelis' score for Chariots seem to actively work against the film in a way his subtler and less hummable work on The Bounty didn't. But as many film composers have noted, the Academy voters tend to favor a memorable 'song' (as they tend to refer to memorable instrumental main themes) rather than more ambitious and intricate works.

[Doc Moonlight]

Originally Posted by Aclea

I think he's great in it - but I half suspect he was probably too convincing as an immigrant with limited English for it to give his career much of a boost at the time (I can see some people thinking he was an actor Forman found in Europe rather than an American). He's another one who should have had a better big screen career than he did...

Let's not forget though, that Patinkin had a very successful career on the Broadway stage. Perhaps it was a personal decision not to aggressively pursue film and TV.

[hoytereden]

Has everyone received their orders from the recent SAE/TT sale? I placed an order with SAE on 8-30 and as of now it's still pending. My orders with them in the past have usually been shipped pretty quickly and those were also during sales promotions.

[Dailyan]

Originally Posted by hoytereden

Has everyone received their orders from the recent SAE/TT sale? I placed an order with SAE on 8-30 and as of now it's still pending. My orders with them in the past have usually been shipped pretty quickly and those were also during sales promotions.

My order arrived like two days after I ordered thru media mail. What titles did you order? I know that "How to Steal a Million" had some backorders but that was for TT's site and not SAE.

[hoytereden]

Originally Posted by Dailyan

My order arrived like two days after I ordered thru media mail. What titles did you order? I know that "How to Steal a Million" had some backorders but that was for TT's site and not SAE.

It was:
How to Steal a Million
Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Garcia
Dragonwyck
The Big Heat

[Dailyan]

Originally Posted by hoytereden

It was:
How to Steal a Million
Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Garcia
Dragonwyck
The Big Heat

Hmm, I suggest you contact SAE. I think "Million" is probably holding it back.

[gpn]

Originally Posted by hoytereden

Has everyone received their orders from the recent SAE/TT sale? I placed an order with SAE on 8-30 and as of now it's still pending. My orders with them in the past have usually been shipped pretty quickly and those were also during sales promotions.

I'm still waiting on my order too. Forever Amber, Dragonwyck and How to Steal a Million.

[Hoke Moseley]

Random... but hope TT releases The Flim-Flam Man on blu soon.

[KJones77]

Originally Posted by Hoke Moseley

Random... but hope TT releases The Flim-Flam Man on blu soon.

Agreed. Would love that one and The Kremlin Letter.

[WBMakeVMarsMovieNOW]

My favorite TT:
The Blob '88

[StingingVelvet]

I watched Under Fire tonight finally and was surprised at how disappointing I found it. Not saying it's bad or anything, but it was nowhere near as good as I was hoping. Seemed blandly shot and poorly paced for the most part, and I felt the love story aspects were so ignored and background that they probably shouldn't have been there at all. Some nice shots of Mexico and a cool premise, but meh. I wasn't that entertained. Oh well.

[RCRochester]

Originally Posted by KJones77

Agreed. Would love that one and The Kremlin Letter.

I'm pretty sure they said that the Kremlin Letter sold so poorly on DVD that they won't bother releasing the blu-ray (ignoring the fact of course that it probably sold poorly because people were waiting / wanting a blu-ray). In any event, there is a French release that is region free.

[belcherman]

Originally Posted by RCRochester

I'm pretty sure they said that the Kremlin Letter sold so poorly on DVD that they won't bother releasing the blu-ray (ignoring the fact of course that it probably sold poorly because people were waiting / wanting a blu-ray).

Yes, that. The DVD version of Violent Saturday has still not sold out while the blu ray has, despite the DVD version being released several years earlier. I think this strongly suggests that Twilight Time customers want blu rays.

As for The Kremlin Letter, someone else could pick it up now, no?

[noirjunkie]

Originally Posted by belcherman

Yes, that. The DVD version of Violent Saturday has still not sold out while the blu ray has, despite the DVD version being released several years earlier. I think this strongly suggests that Twilight Time customers want blu rays.

Agreed. Also, keep in mind that TT's DVD of Violent Saturday was not anamorphically enhanced, so not many people were willing to deal with that.

[hoytereden]

Originally Posted by Dailyan

Hmm, I suggest you contact SAE. I think "Million" is probably holding it back.

You were correct; email from SAE stated they were waiting for their final shipment of How to Steal a Million from TT that should arrive this week.

[nitin]

Just a quick post re Fat City, even though I saw it off the Indicator disc last night rather than via TT.

This is an incredible film, very downbeat but every single second of this just feels so authentic. Fairly sure this slots in straight into my top 25 of all time.

[klauswhereareyou]

Originally Posted by belcherman

Yes, that. The DVD version of Violent Saturday has still not sold out while the blu ray has, despite the DVD version being released several years earlier. I think this strongly suggests that Twilight Time customers want blu rays.

As for The Kremlin Letter, someone else could pick it up now, no?

Yeah I would have gotten it if it was a blu ray. I didn't start buying Twilight Time discs until 2013 and seeing that The Kremlin Letter was one of the few DVDs they had, I didn't want to get it (I just wanted blu-rays by that point).