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Old 09-13-2018, 11:16 PM   #29341
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If I see any TT titles I'm interested in and can find them at a reasonable price I'll definitely snag them ASAP. Just because the possibility another company or label can get the rights for a new release doesn't mean it'll actually happen.
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what's the free ship threshold on the TT or SAE site?
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Old 09-13-2018, 11:59 PM   #29343
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what's the free ship threshold on the TT or SAE site?
To my understanding, there is no free shipping threshold. Than again, somebody else might be able to chime in, all my TT and/or SAE orders have been under 100.
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Old 09-14-2018, 12:00 AM   #29344
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what's the free ship threshold on the TT or SAE site?
There isn't one. The more you buy, the more you pay.

They don't even offer breaks on shipping over a certain point. SAE is something like $5 per order + $1.50 per disc.

The do offer Media Mail rates now which will shave some off- that's a break if you are planning a big order.
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There isn't one. The more you buy, the more you pay.
Sounds about right. Thanks.
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Old 09-14-2018, 12:21 AM   #29346
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Maybe it has changed now, but I thought that at least the TT site had a sort of staggered shipping price, where shipping for 4 discs would be the same as 5, and then it bumps up and costs more for 6-8, etc? I remember sometimes adding an extra movie to a sale without it costing more for the shipping.

Which isn't free, but it was the closest you could get with their sales.
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Old 09-14-2018, 02:05 AM   #29347
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For those with 3D setups, a couple of recommendations:



1953’s Miss Sadie Thompson has the reputation of being the most watered down and disposable of thethree screen versions of W. Somerset Maugham’s Rain, but while it has a few cosmetic changes and lacks the sordid atmosphere of its two pre-Production Code predecessors with Gloria Swanson and Joan Crawford, it’s certainly not negligible. Most of the changes are fairly cosmetic: although common wisdom has it that Sadie has been changed from hooker to nightclub singer, she’s clearly referred to as a prostitute (even in the film’s trailer) and even admits that she did more than sing for her supper when she worked in a notorious Honolulu brothel, while changing Davidson (Jose Ferrer) from an ordained minister to a self-appointed missionary official doesn’t stop a supporting character from pointing out that his desperate need to stamp out sin is no different to an alcoholic trying to enforce Prohibition.

It’s a film with two major assets: strong performances from its central trio of Hayworth (who’s got a few more years on the clock and a few more pounds on the hips, which is just what the part calls for), Ferrer and Aldo Ray and, most surprisingly, its use of 3D.

Few would have got the chance to see it in 3D. Arriving just as the fad was dying out, after two weeks all the 3D prints were pulled and the film played in 2D only, which is a shame because it’s easily the best use of the format I’ve ever seen, and it plays especially well on Twilight Time’s limited edition US Blu-ray release. It avoids the technical mistakes of early films and avoids throwing things at the screen – the closest to an in your face effect is Rita Hayworth blowing smoke at the screen when lighting up – but instead creates a real sense of depth and perspective that makes the most of the locations beyond the usual foreground/background cutout effect (the foreground palm trees may pop out but there’s real depth in the distant forest too) and the characters relationship within the frame which is helped by the cast moving and interacting with the set and other characters more than usual for a 3D film.

There’s none of the double imaging when things get too close to the camera and only a slightly troublesome lampshade seems awkward in the format, though the problem of backgrounds in interiors seeming to be shot in closeup even when the foreground is in medium shot still endures in a few scenes, as does the tendency to be drawn away from what is happening in the drama by the odd strikingly effective bit of 3D in the frame. But it's one of the few films of that era where it doesn't feel gimmicky even though a few shots like the camera tracking through a crowd of GIs to Hayworth dancing really stand out.



“Bullets are very democratic. They kill good men as well as bad.”

Set in the aftermath of the Civil War, Gun Fury sets Rock Hudson’s born-again pacifist who thinks the war could have been avoided with compromise and negotiation against Phil Carey’s bitter Southerner who lost everything in the war and now with his old comrades in arms (Lee Marvin and Neville Brand among them) has gone from robbing carpetbaggers to stealing from anyone to get it back. He may play the Southern gentleman while he’s waiting for his next job to come off, but there’s no doubt what’s on his mind when he sees Hudson’s fiancée Donna Reed:

“She can smile without making it a simper. It’s a rare quality in a woman… She’s as different from other women as cognac is from corn liquor.”
“You get the same kind of headache from either one.”


Despite his second-in-command long-term partner (and possibly a bit more) Leo Gordon’s attempts to steer the young lovers away from the stage they plan to rob, Carey naturally doesn’t just settle for the small fortune in gold it was carrying but decides to take Reed as well, leaving Hudson for dead. Just as naturally, his men don’t check too thoroughly and Hudson sets off to get her back.

Despite his war experiences, initially at least, Hudson’s clearly out of his depth. His botched attempt to thwart the robbery leaves two more innocents dead and gets him shot (a wound he recovers from with remarkable ease), so it’s no wonder that he immediately accepts the offer to team up with Gordon, who Carey left tied to a corral for the vultures to dine on at their leisure for trying to get him to leave Reed behind and now wants his own revenge (the Italian poster art by Anselmo Ballester reproduced on the cover of Twilight Time’s Bluray and its US and French variations all used an image of Hudson tied up while Reed is about to be molested by Carey, though it has to be said that Carey is the only figure to look remotely like any of the stars in this version). And, aside from an unbilled Pat Hogan’s vengeful Native American who wants to kill both Gordon and Carey for destroying his village and stealing his sister and Roberta Haynes as Carey’s cast-off Mexican lover, Gordon’s the only help he’s going to get, with the nearest sheriff emphasising that his job is limited to protecting his town while the local sheep ranchers can only sell them guns and horses because they’re so shorthanded…

The script by Maverick and The Rockford Files’ Roy Huggins and best-selling author Irving Wallace offers plenty of choice dialogue but what’s missing is the kind of dramatic conflict the opening scenes promise to compliment the gunplay it does deliver. It’s not too much of a problem imagining Hudson immediately disavowing his pacifist ideals to save his girl with no further discussion after nailing them so firmly to the mast but his alliance with Gordon is immediately accepted with no qualms and his part in the previous reign of terror overlooked with a few words about his disapproval of Carey’s actions and none of the dramatic sparks you’d expect and get if the two were played by James Stewart and Arthur Kennedy in an Anthony Mann Western. This sets its sights much lower, and with Hudson’s seriously underwritten role as righteous avenger taken for granted with no real moral challenge to his newfound post-war principles and Gordon never really forced to confront his own past actions in any meaningful way, all the script’s character development and sturm und drang is reserved for Carey, allowing him to easily dominate the film.

He may like to pretend that he’s still fighting the war and that it’s a defiant desire not to be among the army of mourners or cripples left in its wake down south that drives him, but, as Gordon is only too aware, that’s just an excuse for polite company. When the chips are down he’s out for whatever he can get any way he can get it, only to lose interest in it once he’s got it and go after something else. For him “Ordinary men live by ordinary laws. I’m not an ordinary man. The laws I need I make for my own convenience.” The result is a good Western with a great villain rather than a great Western with several great characters, but to be fair to the film it’s clearly the kind of movie that no-one making ever intended to be more than a good evening’s entertainment for a mainstream audience, and on that level it succeeds.

Like Andre De Toth’s House of Wax, this has the distinction of being a 3D film shot by a one-eyed director, Raoul Walsh, who lost his right eye and career as an actor in a freak accident (how else could you describe a jackrabbit crashing through your car windscreen?) on the set of In Old Arizona in 1928. Columbia’s 50s 3D films were often superior to their competitors – Miss Sadie Thompson boasts one of the very best uses of the format ever – but at times it feels like Walsh is trying just a little too hard to keep objects (mirrors, candles, sagebrush) in the foreground to emphasise the depth in the first couple of reels and in a couple of early shots you have a choice of focussing on the foreground or the distant mountain ranges because the other will appear ever so very slightly wrong while there are a couple of shots that have that cardboard cut-out toy theatre effect (most notably when the stagecoach arrives at the rest station). The definition is a little soft in some of the exterior extreme long shots and the colour is certainly problematic and not always convincing, especially with skin tones, as was the case in some other 50s colour 3D films, but overall the 3D effect in Twilight Time’s limited edition Bluray is more impressive than not.

There’s a pleasing sense of depth and some standout 3D sequences like the opening scene that attempts to give This is Cinerama’s famous rollercoaster sequence a run for its money with a driver’s point of view of a racing stagecoach and horses and the finale, which makes great use of the undulating landscape and sees every gunshot throw dust or splinters at the screen. Not that they’re the only things that get chucked at the audience, with rocks, logs and a striking rattler thrown at us and Roberta Haynes throwing everything but the kitchen sink at Lee Marvin. I don’t know if the film had an intermission card when it played in 3D, but there’s none included here.

As for the elephant in the room, yes there is a synch problem in the second half of the film – but it is a compatibility problem that depends on what player you watch the film. Seen on my Sony UHP-H1 (an extremely glitch-prone and overpriced model I wouldn’t recommend to anyone unless I seriously disliked them) it’s noticeable but could be easily corrected by adjusting the audio synch on my TV settings, though obviously not every TV set has that option. However, played in my Panasonic DMP-BDT180 and it’s a different story, with the film playing in synch throughout.

The trailer is also included in both 2D and 3D versions and is a classic example of the old hard sell technique – ‘Donna Reed in a role surpassing her triumph in From Here to Eternity! Phil Carey, the new thrill man! And Roberta Haynes, the girl you've heard about and Hollywood is raving about!' Although this played on its original release with The Three Stooges short Pardon My Backfire, that’s not included, though it can be found on TT’s The Mad Magician Bluray.



NB: there is one wondrously outrageous bit of overacting from Maudie Prickett, who is absolutely determined to steal one scene even though she doesn't have any dialogue.

And one 2D steal at $6.95:



"Take care of yourself. The water is full of sharks."

The McCarthy-inspired Blacklist in the late 40s and 50s is such a shameful incident in America's history that film and TV has largely steered clear of the subject altogether: you can count the films dealing with it directly on the fingers of one hand, so it sounds like damning with faint praise to say that the rarely revived The Front is the best of them all. That it's the `Woody Allen film' that time forgot hasn't helped it's reputation, but in truth, although many regular Allen collaborators from co-star Michael Murphy to producers Jack Rollins and Charles H. Joffe are involved, this isn't an Allen film: some of the wisecracks may be tailor-made for him, but this is Martin Ritt and Walter Bernstein's film and Allen's just playing a role, that of a cashier and small-time bookie who finds himself `fronting' for blacklisted writers for 10% of whatever they get for their scripts.

Kicking off with a superb scene-setting montage of the 50s at its best and worst, from baseball and apple pie to the Korean War and the execution of the Rosenbergs while Frank Sinatra sings Young at Heart on the soundtrack, it's a film that certainly speaks from personal experience. Along with writer Walter Bernstein and director Martin Ritt (who had both touched upon the blacklist more obliquely in 1970's The Molly Maguires) many of the cast - Zero Mostel, Herschel Bernardi, Lloyd Gough, Joshua Shelley - were blacklisted, while the daughter of one of the blacklist's most tragic victims, John Garfield, also appears. Yet surprisingly it's not a whitewash: the blacklisted writers make it clear that they weren't put on the list by mistake but because they are communists, while Allen's front may start out on his new career as a favor to a friend but quickly shows his true opportunistic colors. No sooner has he seen how much money he can make than he's taking on more writers at higher rates, seducing Andrea Marcovicci's production assistant who is really in love with the words that aren't even his own rather than the man himself and getting ideas above his station, refusing to hand in scripts he thinks aren't up to his standards because "It's my name that goes on the script." In that he's really no different from anyone else in a world where club owners take advantage of the blacklist to get performers like Mostel's increasingly suicidal Hecky Green at bargain rates and then still knock them down even further after a sell-out show. But it's not long before he becomes a political suspect himself...

Set in the fledgling TV industry where gas company sponsors insisted on rewriting concentration camp dramas to avoid giving their product a bad image and where businessmen who only owned a couple of stores could demand - and get - the right of veto over any cast members they thought are `too red' for their customers' liking by threatening to withdraw a single commercial (both true incidents), it doesn't really need to resort to comic invention, but it's more of an absurd yet dry black comedy that's often too dark NOT to laugh at. The final scene where Allen comes up against the committee and tries to bluff his way out of a contempt charge is really just a piece of wish fulfilment, the kind of thing you wish you had said long after the moment has passed, but it's hard to begrudge Ritt and Bernstein their moment: they earned it. Running a tight hour-and-a-half and with great photography by Michael Chapman, it's well worth investigating.

While Sony's DVD release offered no extras, Twilight Time's Bluray release more than makes amends with an audio commentary featuring co-star Andrea Marcovicci, isolated score (the Sinatra song is not included on that track, though it remains on the film proper), trailer and booklet, as well as featuring a solid widescreen transfer.
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Old 09-14-2018, 04:14 AM   #29348
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Went easy and snagged

Model Shop
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Both are blind buys but I LOVE Rita Hayworth and Lola, Bay of Angels, Umbrellas of Cherbourg & Young Girls of Rochefort. So seems like both are no brainers. With shipping they are basically $20 a piece. Not bad.
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Old 09-14-2018, 06:20 AM   #29349
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Other than the commentary, is there any real advantage to getting Twilight Time's release of Guess Who's Coming to Dinner? over Sony's? If no, then is the commentary at least pretty good? I do like TT's cover art, and both are about the same price right now.
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Other than the commentary, is there any real advantage to getting Twilight Time's release of Guess Who's Coming to Dinner? over Sony's? If no, then is the commentary at least pretty good? I do like TT's cover art, and both are about the same price right now.
I don't think there's a commentary on the Sony version.
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Old 09-14-2018, 11:34 AM   #29351
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Other than the commentary, is there any real advantage to getting Twilight Time's release of Guess Who's Coming to Dinner? over Sony's? If no, then is the commentary at least pretty good? I do like TT's cover art, and both are about the same price right now.
If you don’t like or care for digibooks, than get the TT. The TT also has the original monknwhile Sony has a 5.1 and 3.0 track (Which a 5.1 kind of seems like overkill for a film like this). The isolated score, commentary and teaser are not on the Sony release.

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Old 09-14-2018, 01:08 PM   #29352
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Placed my order for a couple of the bargain bin items:



aclea's review sold me on The Front. I saw it years ago shortly after it came out and was disappointed at the time that it wasn't a typical Woody Allen film. I'm ready to revisit it now.

I'm not really a fan of biopics, but the screencaps for The Eddy Duchin Story look beautiful and, with Kim Novak and Tyrone Power, I can think of worse ways to spend two hours.

There are a couple of other higher-tier sale items I want, but they'll have to wait for the end of the month.
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Ordered this one from SAE:



And I'm thinking of picking up these three directly from TT at a later date:

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aclea's review sold me on The Front. I saw it years ago shortly after it came out and was disappointed at the time that it wasn't a typical Woody Allen film. I'm ready to revisit it now.

I'm not really a fan of biopics, but the screencaps for The Eddy Duchin Story look beautiful and, with Kim Novak and Tyrone Power, I can think of worse ways to spend two hours.
If you saw The Front when it came out - when Woody Allen was still doing 'the early funny ones' - I definitely can see that throwing you off.



The Eddy Duchin Story is a distinctly superior Hollywood biopic, not least thanks to inspired helming by George Sidney, one of the most underrated directors of the 40s and 50s. The story of pianist Eddy Duchin’s rise to fame is the stuff of great melodrama – a rapid rise to fame and a charmed life that was derailed by tragedy and bitterness – and Sidney manages to hit all the right emotional notes while throwing in some immaculate Scope framing and the odd outstanding setpiece (the Dizzy Fingers number gets a remarkably energetic and imaginative staging).

It’s a simple story: boy meets girl, boy becomes overnight success, boy loses girl, boy runs away to war because it helps him lose sight of his personal problems before rediscovering his love of music and, more importantly, of the son he abandoned before fate takes another brutal swing at him. Tyrone Power is certainly too old to still convince as the young man on his way up that studio chiefs still insisted on casting him as in the early scenes, but still manages to more than credibly mime the piano numbers and deliver both the required star quality and some depth to the role (the fact that he only completed three more films before his premature death just two years later adding a piquancy it wouldn’t have had at the time) while Kim Novak is particularly luminous here and gives one of her most impressive performances. And yes, it looks great.
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I had been anticipating this sale, so I was able to place my order as soon as it started; I didn't want any titles to vanish before I had a chance like June's Fox sale, when I missed out on HUSH...HUSH,SWEET CHARLOTTE.
I waited a bit to see if there would be any issues, so these are my four titles:
  • THE EDDY DUCHIN STORY
  • BORN FREE
  • PLACES IN THE HEART
  • THE REMAINS OF THE DAY
Eddy Duchin is actually one I'm pretty interested in, since I love early Cinemascope and especially by the great Harry Stradling, one of the greatest widescreen cinematographers of the studio age. With films like this and Guys and Dolls, Auntie Mame, Gypsy, Funny Girl, and especially My Fair Lady and Hello Dolly, he was one of the most consistent purveyors of widescreen eye candy in the movies.
It's great getting these titles for this cheap, especially since three of them have gorgeous 4K scans. I actually only have two other Columbia titles I'm interested in, but they were both pretty expensive, so I'll probably be through with my Sony wishlist by next sale.
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Well, it sure does look purdy thank to Henri Decae's Scope photography. Keller's the one who is dying but Pacino's the one who plays it like he's in a coma (even when impersonating Mae West), and don't expect much time on the race track. It's the kind of film a few people love a lot and the rest... well, they mostly agree that it sure does look purdy...
"Bobby Deerfield" is so unapologetically melodramatic and self-serious that it becomes unintentionally comedic at times. It is a huge misfire, but a fascinating one. I find it bizarre that Pacino took that role at that point in his career, coming off six incredible performances in a row, since the Deerfield character is pretty uninteresting, but perhaps Al wanted to play a more traditional leading man role (brooding, arrogant loner reaches a moment of professional turmoil, then his heart is softened by the love of a woman), as opposed to the edgier roles he was playing before. It's a role that was custom-made for Pollack's go-to actor, Robert Redford.

It's also one of those that can depend on who you're watching it with. I watched it initially by myself and was laughing at some of the saccharine parts of it, while being entertained. I then watched it again with my girlfriend, because I figured she'd enjoy it, and she thought it was an absolutely beautiful, romantic film. But I still can't believe that Pacino chose that role at the height of his acting abilities when he could have had any script to choose from.

I think I picked it up for $9.95 during a sale last year, which was the right price for me.
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If you saw The Front when it came out - when Woody Allen was still doing 'the early funny ones' - I definitely can see that throwing you off.
Well, I knew that the film was about the Hollywood blacklist period, so I wasn't expecting a laugh riot. I guess I just expected Allen's character to be more likable. Retrospectively, I see that this film, while not written by Allen, contained a theme that would inform a lot of his later works: moral compromise.

I liked The Front back then. It's just that I was expecting one thing and got another. I do remember being really touched by Zero Mostel's performance.
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"Bobby Deerfield" is so unapologetically melodramatic and self-serious that it becomes unintentionally comedic at times. It is a huge misfire, but a fascinating one. I find it bizarre that Pacino took that role at that point in his career, coming off six incredible performances in a row, since the Deerfield character is pretty uninteresting, but perhaps Al wanted to play a more traditional leading man role (brooding, arrogant loner reaches a moment of professional turmoil, then his heart is softened by the love of a woman), as opposed to the edgier roles he was playing before. It's a role that was custom-made for Pollack's go-to actor, Robert Redford.
Who would have been a better fit, though he always said the first thing he asked whenever Pollack sent him a script was "How long before I lose the girl in this one?"

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It's also one of those that can depend on who you're watching it with.
I'm reminded of an article in, I think, the New York Times when Love Story came out where they interviewed all the men waiting in line with their girlfriends: none of them had any interest in the film at all, but one bluntly put it (presumably out of earshot of his date) that "I can take a different girl to see this every night and score every time."

I found it heavier going than you, I'm afraid:



Love Story has a lot to answer for, sparking off a slew of dreary disease-of-the-week doomed romances between beautiful people, one of whom would have one of those terminal diseases that doesn't affect their looks or their motor functions until the last reel. Case in point, 1977's Bobby Deerfield, which dusted off Erich Maria Remarque's 1959 novel Heaven Has No Favourites and sees Al Pacino's unlikeable and insular racing driver who never takes emotional risks or makes commitments off the track falling for Marthe Keller's quixotic and manic free spirit who he meets at an expensive clinic while ostensibly visiting his co-driver but really trying to find out what caused a near fatal crash. Naturally he doesn't read anything into her presence there or her sudden departure when she persuades him to give her a lift home across Italy: he doesn't even seem to cotton on when running his fingers through her hair and some of it falls out.

It's a pretty but deathly dull affair that was a notorious critical and box-office bomb in its day, with Al Pacino underplaying his emotionally comatose part almost to the point of invisibility - no Hoo-ahs! here - with Sydney Pollack's direction taking a similarly sedentary approach to drama and just plonking his two stars in beautiful Italian and French locations where Keller's spur-of-the-moment and direct personality constantly frustrates and confounds him. Keller's easily the best thing in the picture, remarkably convincing as the kind of person with no internal edit button who can drive you up the wall one moment and fascinate you the next despite occasionally being saddled with some terrible dialogue (particularly a running thread about "homos in Newark"), but she seems to be doing all the work both as a character and a performer as Pacino constantly retreats within himself.

With what little plot there is advancing at a snail's pace (and that goes for the two brief and disinterested racing sequences too) it's almost a losing battle with only a few odd moments - a bet that he won't be recognised in the street if he takes off his sunglasses, the obligatory balloon ride - to keep you going in the hope it will get better. It doesn't. Even when she finally breaks down some of his reserve by telling him he's boring, which most of the audience worked out for themselves about twelve reels earlier, he just tries to prove her wrong by doing a bad Mae West impersonation and singing badly.

Still, it does score points for a wonderfully blatant bit of have-your-cake-and-eat-it product placement for a certain brand of watches, and Henri Decae's Scope photography is certainly attractive.

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Old 09-14-2018, 09:37 PM   #29359
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Placed my order for a couple of the bargain bin items:



aclea's review sold me on The Front. I saw it years ago shortly after it came out and was disappointed at the time that it wasn't a typical Woody Allen film. I'm ready to revisit it now.

I'm not really a fan of biopics, but the screencaps for The Eddy Duchin Story look beautiful and, with Kim Novak and Tyrone Power, I can think of worse ways to spend two hours.

There are a couple of other higher-tier sale items I want, but they'll have to wait for the end of the month.
Every time I see the title, I think of a Three Stooges short where they're in a life or death situation and one of them says "I can't die, I haven't seen The Eddy Duchin Story yet!"
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Every time I see the title, I think of a Three Stooges short where they're in a life or death situation and one of them says "I can't die, I haven't seen The Eddy Duchin Story yet!"
That's "The Jolson Story".
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