Twilight Time Discussion Thread

[Dailyan]

Originally Posted by Aclea

Directors tend to have a blind spot about themselves in that regard, especially in other directors' films. William Friedkin never twigged that J.T. Walsh was playing him in Breakdown (even down to the wardrobe) and Peter Bogdanovich still disputes that Robert Klein in Hooper or Ryan O'Neal in Irreconcilable Differences were playing him even though the former directly quotes him several times and the latter was inspired by his divorce. Like writers they often tend to develop a mental picture of themselves as the hero of their films and can't see beyond it.

I didn't know O'Neal played Bogdanovich twice

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[Shanghai Express]

Originally Posted by chas speed

Why are you saying the botched German Blu-ray release of "Bedazzled" had a "faithful" aspect ratio at 2:63.1? The correct aspect ratio is 2:35.1 (check IMDB) for the film and the German Blu-ray's aspect ratio was not correct. I also found no stretching on the old DVD and it had more picture info then the UK disc. It sounds like Twilight did it right and you are getting it wrong. I look forward to reading some reviews now that I know that Twilight Time has the correct aspect ratio.

Faithful was the wrong word to use, I admit.. I just meant to convey that the image on the German Blu-ray looks healthy and proportionate compared to the Fox DVD.

[Aclea]

Originally Posted by Dailyan

I didn't know O'Neal played Bogdanovich twice

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That was supposed to be Harold Lloyd (as was Illegally Yours) - it just came out all Bogdanovich.

[chas speed]

Originally Posted by mrmikefern

Faithful was the wrong word to use, I admit.. I just meant to convey that the image on the German Blu-ray looks healthy and proportionate compared to the Fox DVD.

I thought it looked horribly over matted. I have a HUGE collection of Blu-ray's and the only title that comes close to that letterbox is Ben-Hur. Bedazzled (1968) was just a normal Panavision film and looks insane at that ratio.

[cinerama]

Originally Posted by chas speed

I thought it looked horribly over matted. I have a HUGE collection of Blu-ray's and the only title that comes close to that letterbox is Ben-Hur. Bedazzled (1968) was just a normal Panavision film and looks insane at that ratio.

I tried finding the same screen shot of the German Blu-ray and Fox DVD. This is the closest I could find. The German Blu-ray is not cropped it just has more picture info on the sides. The extra is probably where the sound was placed so, not seen in movie theatres. Similar to the 1998 DVD of the Great Escape.

Fox


German

[chas speed]

Originally Posted by cinerama

I tried finding the same screen shot of the German Blu-ray and Fox DVD. This is the closest I could find. The German Blu-ray is not cropped it just has more picture info on the sides. The extra is probably where the sound was placed so, not seen in movie theatres. Similar to the 1998 DVD of the Great Escape.

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The DVD of The Great Escape IS in the correct aspect ratio and the German Bedazzled Blu-ray is not. I saw no additional picture info on the German Blu-ray. You know that Bedazzled was not filmed at that aspect ration (check IMDB). Bedazzled was filmed in a 2:35.1 ratio and not a 2:63.1 ratio. If you prefer watching films in the wrong aspect ratio the German Blu-ray is the way to go.

[Dailyan]

Originally Posted by chas speed

The DVD of The Great Escape IS in the correct aspect ratio and the German Bedazzled Blu-ray is not. I saw no additional picture info on the German Blu-ray. If you prefer watching films in the wrong aspect ratio the German Blu-ray is the way to go.

If you're referring to this DVD of "The Great Escape":

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Then you are wrong. 2.69 is not the intended aspect ratio of "The Great Escape".

[chas speed]

Originally Posted by Dailyan

If you're referring to this DVD of "The Great Escape":

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Then you are wrong. 2.69 is not the intended aspect ratio of "The Great Escape".

The only thing I know about The Great Escape is an early DVD release had a lot more picture info compared to later releases.

[Dailyan]

Originally Posted by chas speed

The only thing I know about The Great Escape is an early DVD release had a lot more picture info compared to later releases.

Just because there is more info, it doesn't mean that it was intended to be seen by audiences. In the '98 DVD, there are shots where composition is off and interior scenes where you can see the edge of the set or stage crew.

[chas speed]

Originally Posted by Dailyan

Just because there is more info, it doesn't mean that it was intended to be seen by audiences. In the '98 DVD, there are shots where composition is off and interior scenes where you can see the edge of the set or stage crew.

You are right. The Great Escape was a very odd case. Where they had a lot of additional picture information on the side that wasn't actually supposed to be seen. I can't think of too many other films like that. Very strange. Usually when there is picture info that is not supposed to be seen it is on the top or bottom and not on the side.

[cinerama]

1998 DVD


2004 DVD

[chas speed]

Originally Posted by cinerama

1998 DVD


2004 DVD

That really is a LOT of additional picture info. I kind of think the 1998 version looks nice, but we now know that we are not supposed to see that picture information, so just pretend you don't see it. Just please throw away the 1998 DVD and forget that you saw anything.

[T. Warren Scollan]

For "Bedazzled" 2.35 is probably correct, but I would never use IMDB as a reference for that. They get the OAR wrong for dozens of films. Best reference for that (in my opinion) is the American Widescreen Museum.

[Reddington]

Originally Posted by jayembee

The problem with the Panther films is that they're one-note, and keep beating that one note to death in film after film. You've seen one, you've seen them all. A Shot in the Dark is the only one I've been able to watch over and over again. And I'm a Blake Edwards fan.

The first film works well for me as a sort of romantic comedy, and because the slapstick is more restrained and sophisticated when compared to the later entries. I find the cast to be irresistible - and also the Cortina location work. It definitely has high replay value for me.

[oildude]

I can't believe all the dogpiling negativity I am reading about The Pink Panther films. Not all are great, the Blake Edwards' series went a few films too many, but Sellers was a comic genius, Burt Kwouk and Herbert Lom portrayed two of the best supporting characters ever, and these movies totally rock.

I waited years for them to reach Blu-ray. Year after year I waited, and then one day they were announced, the world was suddenly a glorious place, and I developed an overwhelming desire to start speaking with an outlandish French accent that I struggle to control to this day.

This isn't TT related, but I will just leave this as a reminder to the misguided souls who cast doubt on the brilliance of these films that their opinions are simply wrong. This is all I have to say on the matter.

Does your dog bite? / Do you have a 'reum'? - YouTube

Inspector Clouseau on the beat - YouTube

Oh, and my Screen Archives order of all four February titles shipped today.

[ogjongray]

Originally Posted by oildude

I can't believe all the dogpiling negativity I am reading about The Pink Panther films. Not all are great, the Blake Edwards' series went a few films too many, but Sellers was a comic genius, Burt Kwouk and Herbert Lom portrayed two of the best supporting characters ever, and these movies totally rock.

I waited years for them to reach Blu-ray. Year after year I waited, and then one day they were announced, the world was suddenly a glorious place, and I developed an overwhelming desire to start speaking with an outlandish French accent that I struggle to control to this day.

This isn't TT related, but I will just leave this as a reminder to the misguided souls who cast doubt on the brilliance of these films that their opinions are simply wrong. This is all I have to say on the matter.

Does your dog bite? / Do you have a 'reum'? - YouTube

Inspector Clouseau on the beat - YouTube

Oh, and my Screen Archives order of all four February titles shipped today.

They dipped into the well a few times too many but I agree that there are three brilliant films in the series and they hold up well over multiple viewings. My wife and her family are prone to quoting several lines from the films. The biting dog is a perennial favorite along with this brilliant scene -

But that's a priceless Steinway! - YouTube

[Zen_Amako]

I'm really not sure what the deal is with Bedazzled. The Twilight Time Blu-ray is 2.35:1, but the picture does seem like it's a bit vertically stretched (in particular, Eleanor Bron's face looks too skinny). Is that just how the film is intended to look?

[RedHarvest]

Oh, and my Screen Archives order of all four February titles shipped today.[/QUOTE]

Yep, I got shipping notification on Talk Radio yesterday.

[bdgking]

SAE only has 44 more of The Eddy Dutchin Story remaining these are the last and then they are sold out .

Also I am curious about the title Exodus . I have never seen the version listed on this sale if any of you are willing to give your takes / opinions of this title I would appreciate it . Trying to feel out if I should get in on this title or not ?

Thank You in advance to all that reply with their honest takes on it

[koberulz]

Originally Posted by ogjongray

They dipped into the well a few times too many but I agree that there are three brilliant films in the series and they hold up well over multiple viewings. My wife and her family are prone to quoting several lines from the films. The biting dog is a perennial favorite along with this brilliant scene -

But that's a priceless Steinway! - YouTube

I get it, it's funny because he's clumsy and breaks things.