Twilight Time Discussion Thread

[Professor Echo]

Originally Posted by Widmark

Yeah - same here. Hopefully Eureka will eventually release Don't Bother to Knock along with the rest of the premier Widmark's in TT's catalog.

Welcome to the forum!

Obviously you’re a Widmark fan so I just wanted to ask you if you’ve ever seen MY PAL GUS? I just watched it recently on the Fox MOD DVD and I thought it was a really terrific film, dealing with issues far ahead of their time and doing so in a very heartfelt, charming way. I truly think it’s one of Widmark’s best, even if mostly unknown.

[Gunsnroses092789]

Originally Posted by Professor Echo

Welcome to the forum!

Obviously you’re a Widmark fan so I just wanted to ask you if you’ve ever seen MY PAL GUS? I just watched it recently on the Fox MOD DVD and I thought it was a really terrific film, dealing with issues far ahead of their time and doing so in a very heartfelt, charming way. I truly think it’s one of Widmark’s best, even if mostly unknown.

Good rec! I will definitely check this out!

[Mattmck99]

Originally Posted by noirjunkie

I just looked at the list and was shocked to see that copies of 100 Rillington Place (1971) are still available for $6.95. How is that possible? If there's a single title out of the remaining stock that should be sold out by now at that price point, it's this one.

Agreed, very surprising, I just checked and there are currently still 43 copies of 10 Rillington place left in stock.

[Dollar Colonel]

Originally Posted by bwdowiak

I can assure you that if there are small stores buying up inventory, they're not doing it to break even. Which considering their own shipping and handling charges would already mean that they'd have to sell higher than today's TT prices to achieve just that.

But is that scalping? It ensures movies are in stock for future enthusiasts who didn't luck out on getting these for $12. I think a B&M store selling them for $25 isn't too unreasonable, especially if they never sell or a better version comes along. Movie stores do provide a service.

[bwdowiak]

Originally Posted by Dollar Colonel

But is that scalping? It ensures movies are in stock for future enthusiasts who didn't luck out on getting these for $12. I think a B&M store selling them for $25 isn't too unreasonable, especially if they never sell or a better version comes along. Movie stores do provide a service.

The exact same things can be said about someone who picks up a few extra copies and sells them on eBay.

[Gunsnroses092789]

Originally Posted by bwdowiak

The exact same things can be said about someone who picks up a few extra copies and sells them on eBay.

Or concert tickets... Either way, it's not cool.


In other news, I got a notification my sale order shipped.

[Bugg]

Originally Posted by Dollar Colonel

But is that scalping? It ensures movies are in stock for future enthusiasts who didn't luck out on getting these for $12. I think a B&M store selling them for $25 isn't too unreasonable, especially if they never sell or a better version comes along. Movie stores do provide a service.

Smaller stores are not going to tie up money by stocking multiple copies of low demand titles. Keep in mind that many of these discs have been out for several years, are the only Bluray versions in the world, and still could not sell 3,000 copies. It's only going to be worth it for the sellers that are relying on selling them off at greatly inflated prices as they may be sitting on a lot of these discs for a long time before finding buyers. You often see OOP stuff on ebay for over $100 but they may have to keep relisting the thing for weeks before finding 1 buyer.

[Reddington]

Originally Posted by Gunsnroses092789

Or concert tickets... Either way, it's not cool.

Off-topic, but I've mixed feelings about ticket scalpers. When Adele came to Boston and my girlfriend desperately wanted to see her, neither of us could access Ticketmaster at work as the site was prohibited, and it is very difficult to do on a mobile - and they of course sold-out within about 60 seconds. On the one hand, I was reluctant to support scalping, but on the other, it was the only option open to us, and the one we took.

[somethingblu]

Originally Posted by noirjunkie

I just looked at the list and was shocked to see that copies of 100 Rillington Place (1971) are still available for $6.95. How is that possible? If there's a single title out of the remaining stock that should be sold out by now at that price point, it's this one.

I picked up a copy in my last order.

It pains me to see these rare Grable blu-rays (I don't know of another company who put them out) still on the block. I did think it encouraging 2 of the 3 Alice Faye vehicles sold out (State Fair and The Gang's All Here) but Hello, Frisco, Hello is a wonderful film. Its still in stock. I guess we will see what the coming weeks will bring...or take away I should say.

[Tommytwotimes]

I'm sure its gonna take awhile before I receive my orders. TT and SAE are swamped with orders.

Here's my purchases

The Incident
Manhattan murder mystery
Seven ups
Keys of the kingdom
Panic in needle park
Gloria
I want to live
State fair
Bananas
A midsummer night's sex comedy
Cutter's way
Murphy's law
Anne of the thousand days
Baby boom
Boston strangler
Chatos land
Bedazzled
Cinderella liberty
Revolt of Mamie Stover
How to succeed on business without really trying
Roller ball
Who'll stop the rain
Gun fury
Eye of the needle
Other side of midnight
Garden of evil
Sayonara
The Hospital
Lawman
Hour of the gun
Suddenly last summer
Forever Amber


Fun times ahead.

[octobercountry]

Originally Posted by somethingblu

I picked up a copy in my last order.

It pains me to see these rare Grable blu-rays (I don't know of another company who put them out) still on the block. I did think it encouraging 2 of the 3 Alice Faye vehicles sold out (State Fair and The Gang's All Here) but Hello, Frisco, Hello is a wonderful film. Its still in stock. I guess we will see what the coming weeks will bring...or take away I should say.

Perhaps part of the problem with the Grable titles is that they aren't particularly good transfers, due to the fact that 20th Century Fox destroyed all their Technicolor negatives back in the 1970s? Blu-rays of Fox Technicolor films are never going to look anywhere near as good as the Technicolor stuff from MGM or Warners.

[jayembee]

Originally Posted by Tommytwotimes

I'm sure its gonna take awhile before I receive my orders. TT and SAE are swamped with orders.

I'm not sure how swamped SAE will be. They aren't matching TTM's prices; they're still at the April/May sale pricing structure ($14.95 instead of $11.95, and so forth).

The only value they have for the next month and a half would be for titles that disappear from TTM.

[Gunsnroses092789]

Originally Posted by Reddington

Off-topic, but I've mixed feelings about ticket scalpers. When Adele came to Boston and my girlfriend desperately wanted to see her, neither of us could access Ticketmaster at work as the site was prohibited, and it is very difficult to do on a mobile - and they of course sold-out within about 60 seconds. On the one hand, I was reluctant to support scalping, but on the other, it was the only option open to us, and the one we took.

But also the tickets would not have sold out in 60 seconds if not for the scalpers, necessarily. You could say the same about the TT scalpers... Now that a lot of these titles are sold out, you can still get them through the scalpers.

[somethingblu]

Originally Posted by Tommytwotimes

I'm sure its gonna take awhile before I receive my orders. TT and SAE are swamped with orders.

Here's my purchases

The Incident
Manhattan murder mystery
Seven ups
Keys of the kingdom
Panic in needle park
Gloria
I want to live
State fair
Bananas
A midsummer night's sex comedy
Cutter's way
Murphy's law
Anne of the thousand days
Baby boom
Boston strangler
Chatos land
Bedazzled
Cinderella liberty
Revolt of Mamie Stover
How to succeed on business without really trying
Roller ball
Who'll stop the rain
Gun fury
Eye of the needle
Other side of midnight
Garden of evil
Sayonara
The Hospital
Lawman
Hour of the gun
Suddenly last summer
Forever Amber


Fun times ahead.

Stellar list! Glad to see some interest in "Garden of Evil", one of my favorite Westerns of the 50s. The transfer for "I Want to Live!" is exceptionally beautiful, and I've owned that films on VHS and DVD. It far surpasses the DVD, especially with the delivery of the jazz-laden score. Enjoy!

[Mike_C]

Originally Posted by Monterey Jack

The thing I wish TT did do with their score tracks would be to program the chapter stops so you could skip directly to the next score cue once the current one finished. A 1996 laserdisc of The Omen did that with Jerry Goldsmith's score, but the later Blu-Ray release omitted that feature.

Thus, it's not easy to just listen straight through to many of these (unless the movie is scored almost all-to-wall), so it tends to be a more piecemeal experience, but it's certainly better than nothing. Those more tech-minded than I could probably burn the music cues to a CD, but I wouldn't know how to go about that.

The ability to skip from one section to another would ABSOLUTELY increase my enjoyment of the isolated score tracks. It's unfortunate that this wasn't implemented. Wonder if there are technical reasons why it wasn't done, or maybe an additional cost factor involved? Anyways...these tracks are still a nice feature to have, and the possibility to extract the isolated track and then re-edit the silent parts out is something that I may look into in the future. Good suggestion!

[Bugg]

One that's still in stock that I'd recommend to anyone that likes gritty westerns is Lawman. I'd rank it as Michael Winner's best film.

Lawman (1971) - Trailer - YouTube

[Professor Echo]

All hail Hariseldon and Aclea and everyone else for generously helping me make smart buying decisions throughout the two months of this sale. The contributions here by so many have been invaluable.

I guess I’m finally done, my last buy including what I’m sure for many will seem a strange choice. It came down to THE GLORY GUYS or BENEATH THE TWELVE MILE REEF. Well, after some consideration, I chose REEF. But this is what might make it seem strange: I already have the TT Blu of REEF in my collection. After reading everything I could on GLORY GUYS, I just couldn’t get into it and so chose instead to buy a BACKUP copy of REEF, which is one of my favorites and quite simply one of the most beautiful Blu-rays I’ve ever seen. Strange? You decide.

[somethingblu]

Originally Posted by octobercountry

Perhaps part of the problem with the Grable titles is that they aren't particularly good transfers, due to the fact that 20th Century Fox destroyed all their Technicolor negatives back in the 1970s? Blu-rays of Fox Technicolor films are never going to look anywhere near as good as the Technicolor stuff from MGM or Warners.

That's a really good thought. Pin-Up Girl was pretty washed out. On the other hand, the transfer for Alice Faye's "The Gang's All Here" was stellar. I actually got to screen this transfer at the Alamo Draft House in 2018 and it popped. If time could only be turned back.

[SeanJoyce]

Originally Posted by Bugg

One that's still in stock that I'd recommend to anyone that likes gritty westerns is Lawman. I'd rank it as Michael Winner's best film.

I think that Chato's Land is a much better western, but Lawman is a strong genre entry.

It's a pity that Winner didn't make more westerns, because as much criticism as he gets I think he was a pretty competent filmmaker when he wanted to be.

Also a pity that a more updated scan couldn't be used, since the TT Blu-ray looks pretty rough.

[Reddington]

Originally Posted by Gunsnroses092789

But also the tickets would not have sold out in 60 seconds if not for the scalpers, necessarily.

No, it would have been two minutes. I read afterwards that a quarter of a million people attempted to buy tickets for the show (venue capacity under 20,000). Realistically, most of these would have been fans, not scalpers.