Twilight Time Discussion Thread - Page 1782 - Blu-ray Forum

gudemameshiba · 06-03-2021, 04:33 PM

The other thing to keep in mind, if you're patient, is that when TT announced that they were closing up shop, nearly everything went on sale at SAE and stayed at the lower price for a while:

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At some later date I guess they decided they'd sold enough at those prices, or at least were willing to sit on their remaining stock, so they bumped the prices back up.

I'm skeptical about the possibility of them dropping that much again, but whoever's selling on eBay might have bought the titles at those prices originally (plus $4.40 flat rate shipping plus the $2 per item that SAE also adds as shipping).

Shane Rollins · 06-03-2021, 05:21 PM

Regarding them being back in business, are new titles coming out, are they still limited to 3,000 copies, and will they be doing rereleases of their previous OOP titles?

StarDestroyer52 · 06-03-2021, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Shane Rollins

Regarding them being back in business, are new titles coming out, are they still limited to 3,000 copies, and will they be doing rereleases of their previous OOP titles?

SAE is releasing titles under the TT name and there still limited to 3,000. I doubt they will be doing re-releases of their previous OOP titles. Many of the OOP titles are being put out by Kino so I would watch them to see if there's any OOP titles you missed out on.

hariseldon · 06-03-2021, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Shane Rollins

Regarding them being back in business, are new titles coming out, are they still limited to 3,000 copies, and will they be doing rereleases of their previous OOP titles?

Yes, 4 so far under the TT label
MESSALINA (1960) 4/2021
SEVEN DEATHS IN THE CAT'S EYES (1973) 4/2021
THE MAN FROM HONG KONG (1975) 1/2021
VENOM (AKA THE LEGEND OF SPIDER FOREST / 1971) 1/2021

Don't know

Unlikely -- assuming my understanding of the contracts were correct TT had the right to print 3000 copies of most titles and a 3 year US Exclusive Window. I don't think anyone has definitively said IF TT only printed 500/1000/1500 on their initial run of some titles IF they legally could go back and print the extra copies. Nobody I think has clarified if those contracts were ported over fully to SAE after TT shut down and if SAE now still has the exclusive rights to those titles that were released after June 2018 (rolling date and I'm not sure whether we ever truly knew exactly when the 3 year period started -- contract date, printing date, preorder/release date).

Assuming those contract details were correct AND continued intact after the transfer of inventory AND an item released prior to 2018 was short printed (?? 1500), would SAE have the legal right to press an additional 1500 AFTER the 3 year exclusive period ended or for that matter even repress those items that are still inside that 3 years window ?

I will say it is somewhat curious that SHORT NIGHT OF GLASS DOLLS was the last released item (OCT 2018) that was ever listed SOLD OUT. There were quite a few reports that TT was short printing releases toward the end of their run AND this it the one of the few sold out item still technically inside that 3 year window.

The only other SOLD OUT items released AFTER June 1, 2018 are from AUGUST 2018
Gloria (Limited Edition to 3000)
Rapid Fire (Limited Edition to 3000)

OTOH -- if you're a business, how anxious would you be any of those later items that took essentially forever and massive discounts to sell out? I will make my own assumptions that the Faster Selling items from pre 2015-2016 were all likely pressed at the full 3000 initially and wouldn't be eligible to be reprinted anyway without renegotiating an entire new deal with the studio (plus Julie Kirgo, etc for the bonus material)

gudemameshiba · 06-04-2021, 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by hariseldon

I will say it is somewhat curious that SHORT NIGHT OF GLASS DOLLS was the last released item (OCT 2018) that was ever listed SOLD OUT. There were quite a few reports that TT was short printing releases toward the end of their run AND this it the one of the few sold out item still technically inside that 3 year window.

Did THE HOT ROCK also sell out, then un-sell out, or did i imagine that?

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Originally Posted by hariseldon

Restocked or Special Stock TT that isn't in the normal TT filter -- never figured if these were buy-backs, found items, late promotions, but the last 2 left
BELIEVERS (1987), THE 48
VANISHING (1993) THE 50

“SEALED - MINT - ONLY ONE AVAILABLE” lol

Brandon K · 06-05-2021, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by gudemameshiba

Did THE HOT ROCK also sell out, then un-sell out, or did i imagine that?

On June 30, 2020, it was announced as one of the previously sold out titles that TT would make available for purchase in their final week (at regular price), as they had found a very limited number of copies (generally 3 or less).

I bought a copy, and then a couple weeks later, I realized that 50+ copies were still available at SAE, when I could swear they weren't there before, since I did cross check SAE against the TT list when deciding which titles to focus on trying to get when the limited quantity titles went live on TT, so TT gave me a refund to price match SAE's current price.

One could deep dive this further, but yeah, from my point of view something interesting happened with that one, possibly SAE discovered more inventory they had forgotten.

hariseldon · 06-05-2021, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by gudemameshiba

Did THE HOT ROCK also sell out, then un-sell out, or did i imagine that?

“SEALED - MINT - ONLY ONE AVAILABLE” lol

There were several items that appeared sold out at least for brief periods of time during the sale including Hot Rock and Long Hot Summer item that sold out in May and both came back nearly simultaneously. There were a couple time near the beginning of the sale that suddenly reappeared after supposedly being sold out for months. There was an odd notation of the item when stock was announced from
SAE that wasn't the usual SOLD OUT notation -- something of the nature Temporarily Unavailable to Order or similar that made at least an impression that this wasn't a permanent OOS situation.

A post I made from Mid July that mentioned the unusual wording
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...ostcount=34872

Anastasia sold out and reappeared a number of times -- more commonly just on the TTM site. Not sure if they were pulling stock in from offsite warehouses, buying back stock from SAE, finding old boxes in the back of the warehouse that were buried behind other boxes, etc.

Short Night is the first item that I'm aware of that has reappeared since the end of the Sale and TTM officially sent all stock to SAE. And esp. the only item I'm aware of that sold out after the sale ended and then reappeared 6+Months later. Maybe nothing, maybe something

UniSol GR77 · 06-07-2021, 07:26 PM

Question about REMO WILLIAMS: have the opening titles a stabilization issue or not? I can't see it.

Bradsdadg · 06-21-2021, 06:16 PM

Latest low stock alert from SAE:

TWILIGHT TIME low quantity alert update!

Fewer than 50 copies:

BOSTON STRANGLER, THE (1968)
DOCTOR DOLITTLE (1967)
TWO FOR THE ROAD (1967)
ALAMO BAY (1985)
APPASSIONATA (1974)

Fewer than 100 copies:

GRAN BOLLITO (BLACK JOURNAL / 1977)
VALACHI PAPERS, THE (1972)
PANIC IN NEEDLE PARK, THE (1971)
HAPPY ENDING, THE (1969)
ROLLERBALL (1975 / ENCORE EDITION)
BEAT THE DEVIL (1953 / REGION A ONLY)
THE HOSPITAL (1971)

Fewer than 150 copies:

FORTUNE COOKIE, THE (1966)
I WANT TO LIVE (1958)
AMERICAN BUFFALO (1996) (CLOSE OUT PRICING)
THE RUSSIA HOUSE (1990)

Fewer than 200 copies:

EMPEROR IN AUGUST, THE (NIHON NO ICHIBAN NAGAI HI KETTEIBAN / 2015 - REGION A ONLY)
A MIDSUMMER NIGHT'S SEX COMEDY (1982)
ROMEO IS BLEEDING (1993)
INTERIORS (1978)
MEMBER OF THE WEDDING, THE (1952)
STONE KILLER, THE (1973)
GERONIMO: AN AMERICAN LEGEND (1993)
EVERYTHING YOU ALWAYS WANTED TO KNOW ABOUT SEX* (*BUT WERE AFRAID TO ASK / 1972)
HOUR OF THE GUN (1967)
HELL AND HIGH WATER (1954)
ABSOLUTE BEGINNERS (1986)
FROM NOON TILL THREE (1976)
GARDEN OF EVIL (1954)
CRIMSON KIMONO, THE (1959)
EUREKA (1983)
BEDAZZLED (1967)
BULLET TRAIN, THE (AKA SHINKANSEN DAIBAKUHA / 1975 / REGION A ONLY)
THE HOT ROCK (1972)

misterlibby · 06-22-2021, 05:29 PM

Thank you for that. Hadn’t checked on the Twilight Time or this thread in a while. Decided to right some wrongs

Two for the Road (I only just realized the MoC was out of print—RELIEVED to see it here—driving force behind the whole order)
Inserts
The Hot Rock
Beat The Devil

OceanBlue · 06-22-2021, 08:43 PM

Decided to get recently from Screen Archives, Don't Bother to Knock and No Down Payment. They took a couple of weeks to arrive.

Gacivory · 06-22-2021, 08:48 PM

Jumped on Two For The Road.

Brandon K · 06-29-2021, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Gacivory

Jumped on Two For The Road.

Great choice, a favorite from my TT library!

SAE is having a TT sale, in case you missed the one they just had

Full email, with the latest quantity alert in the spoiler section for length:

- - -

TWILIGHT TIME SIZZLING SUMMER SALE!

20% off with code TWILIGHT2021 at checkout.

SALE IS VALID THROUGH TUESDAY, JULY 13TH AT MIDNIGHT EASTERN!

LIMITED STOCKS ON MANY TITLES - BUY NOW AND DON'T BE DISAPPOINTED BY MISSING OUT ON GREAT TITLES!

[Show spoiler]

jayembee · 06-29-2021, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Gacivory

Jumped on Tow For The Road.

Did your car break down?

Gacivory · 06-29-2021, 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayembee

Did your car break down?

Actually, my girlfriends car just got hit, while parked. So sorta!

BenOswald · 06-29-2021, 09:13 PM

I'd recommend Behold A Pale Horse & Morituri to about anyone.

Also check out this sale from EBay last month

https://www.ebay.com/itm/26519948799...QAAOSwhqFgy7Lp

gudemameshiba · 06-30-2021, 12:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BenOswald

Also check out this sale from EBay last month

https://www.ebay.com/itm/26519948799...QAAOSwhqFgy7Lp

$119.95 expedited shipping. Just think: if you ordered that many titles directly from SAE, the shipping cost would be $474.40.

rdodolak · 06-30-2021, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by gudemameshiba

$119.95 expedited shipping. Just think: if you ordered that many titles directly from SAE, the shipping cost would be $474.40.

Shows up as $339.74 for me.

gudemameshiba · 06-30-2021, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by rdodolak

Shows up as $339.74 for me.

Whoops, didn't notice it was UPS 3 Day Select. I suppose I live closer to New Jersey than you do.

BenOswald · 06-30-2021, 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by rdodolak

Shows up as $339.74 for me.

Same for me in California.

Pretty crazy tho, comes out to about $10/each and many would fetch $20-$30 on ebay.

06-22-2021, 05:29 PM	#35630
misterlibby Member Member since:Mar 2021 4K collection:26 Blu-ray collection:1179 DVD collection:1509	Thank you for that. Hadn’t checked on the Twilight Time or this thread in a while. Decided to right some wrongs Two for the Road (I only just realized the MoC was out of print—RELIEVED to see it here—driving force behind the whole order) Inserts The Hot Rock Beat The Devil Last edited by misterlibby; 06-22-2021 at 05:33 PM.

06-22-2021, 08:48 PM	#35632
Gacivory Blu-ray Archduke Top contributor Member since:Apr 2016 Location:Los Angeles, California 4K collection:1122 Blu-ray collection:5615 DVD collection:183 Digital collection:25 Trading Score:1	Jumped on Two For The Road. Last edited by Gacivory; 06-29-2021 at 07:35 PM.

06-03-2021, 04:33 PM	#35621
gudemameshiba Special Member Top contributor Member since:Oct 2020 Location:NYC 4K collection:90 Blu-ray collection:3403 DVD collection:790 Trading Score:19	The other thing to keep in mind, if you're patient, is that when TT announced that they were closing up shop, nearly everything went on sale at SAE and stayed at the lower price for a while: [Show spoiler] At some later date I guess they decided they'd sold enough at those prices, or at least were willing to sit on their remaining stock, so they bumped the prices back up. I'm skeptical about the possibility of them dropping that much again, but whoever's selling on eBay might have bought the titles at those prices originally (plus $4.40 flat rate shipping plus the $2 per item that SAE also adds as shipping).

06-03-2021, 05:21 PM	#35622
Shane Rollins Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Jun 2020 Location:In James Cameron's Mother's Basement 4K collection:8 Blu-ray collection:93	Regarding them being back in business, are new titles coming out, are they still limited to 3,000 copies, and will they be doing rereleases of their previous OOP titles?

06-07-2021, 07:26 PM	#35628
UniSol GR77 Banned Member since:May 2009 Location:Naples, Italy. Trading Score:1	Question about REMO WILLIAMS: have the opening titles a stabilization issue or not? I can't see it.

06-21-2021, 06:16 PM	#35629
Bradsdadg Blu-ray Knight Top contributor Member since:Jul 2017 4K collection:361 Blu-ray collection:1835 DVD collection:216 Trading Score:15	Latest low stock alert from SAE: TWILIGHT TIME low quantity alert update! Fewer than 50 copies: BOSTON STRANGLER, THE (1968) DOCTOR DOLITTLE (1967) TWO FOR THE ROAD (1967) ALAMO BAY (1985) APPASSIONATA (1974) Fewer than 100 copies: GRAN BOLLITO (BLACK JOURNAL / 1977) VALACHI PAPERS, THE (1972) PANIC IN NEEDLE PARK, THE (1971) HAPPY ENDING, THE (1969) ROLLERBALL (1975 / ENCORE EDITION) BEAT THE DEVIL (1953 / REGION A ONLY) THE HOSPITAL (1971) Fewer than 150 copies: FORTUNE COOKIE, THE (1966) I WANT TO LIVE (1958) AMERICAN BUFFALO (1996) (CLOSE OUT PRICING) THE RUSSIA HOUSE (1990) Fewer than 200 copies: EMPEROR IN AUGUST, THE (NIHON NO ICHIBAN NAGAI HI KETTEIBAN / 2015 - REGION A ONLY) A MIDSUMMER NIGHT'S SEX COMEDY (1982) ROMEO IS BLEEDING (1993) INTERIORS (1978) MEMBER OF THE WEDDING, THE (1952) STONE KILLER, THE (1973) GERONIMO: AN AMERICAN LEGEND (1993) EVERYTHING YOU ALWAYS WANTED TO KNOW ABOUT SEX* (*BUT WERE AFRAID TO ASK / 1972) HOUR OF THE GUN (1967) HELL AND HIGH WATER (1954) ABSOLUTE BEGINNERS (1986) FROM NOON TILL THREE (1976) GARDEN OF EVIL (1954) CRIMSON KIMONO, THE (1959) EUREKA (1983) BEDAZZLED (1967) BULLET TRAIN, THE (AKA SHINKANSEN DAIBAKUHA / 1975 / REGION A ONLY) THE HOT ROCK (1972)

06-22-2021, 08:43 PM	#35631
OceanBlue Blu-ray Baron Member since:Sep 2013 Location:Midlands, UK	Decided to get recently from Screen Archives, Don't Bother to Knock and No Down Payment. They took a couple of weeks to arrive.

06-29-2021, 09:13 PM	#35636
BenOswald Senior Member Member since:Mar 2016 Location:Los Angeles, CA 4K collection:34 Blu-ray collection:1253 DVD collection:64 Trading Score:1	I'd recommend Behold A Pale Horse & Morituri to about anyone. Also check out this sale from EBay last month https://www.ebay.com/itm/26519948799...QAAOSwhqFgy7Lp

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