Twilight Time Discussion Thread

[dsman71]

Originally Posted by AgentOrange

Wait, where is this from?

That's awesome news if true. Time to unload Journey.

Its from their Facebook page on the posts to page section...
its a comment / question that starts with Fright Night and Christine and it leads to Journey and just a few minutes ago TT said Fright Night would be early 2015, its not the October release. Im glad they are open about these things

[mjbethancourt]

Originally Posted by LucasM2012

My understanding of the way it has been stated all along is that no-one other than Twilight Time could release the film domestically within the three year period. The time period is not locked to the 3000 copies - it is locked to Twilight Time being the only one to release the film.

If that is the case, any date would be a meaningless reference for another Twilight Time release: because it would still be Twilight Time releasing the Blu-ray.

In other words: The three year period was for 'exclusivity'. Them re-releasing something themselves does not violate that exclusivity. Therefore the 'three years' is irrelevant to them. Like a countdown timer, they can add more years to the already-counting time period if they and the studio decide to.

That was always my understanding of it. The 'scarcity' was inferred from the fact that nobody else could make it for 3 years, and TT already did, therefore scalpers could bank on the justifiable despair that a title would probably never be available on BD again, but there were never any guarantees nor was any such thing even directly implied. Some people just need to 'take their lumps', boo-hoo for the poor baby that won't be able to get $320 a pop out of those $30 copies of Fright Night that they bought up, boo hoo.

[iank]

It would be good if they let us know what will be on the new Fright Night before the European release comes out.

[KilloWertz]

I guess this will be the first time I don't get a Twilight Time release by release day. My order for The Train, The Man from Laramie, and Born Yesterday still hasn't shipped and Born Yesterday's release date is Tuesday.

[FrancisP]

As long as they are not violating the terms of their contract with the studios then there are no legal issues. Clearly they are tweaking the business model as they go. That is clear with their making 5,000 copies of The Blob available versus the usual 3,000. I would see these reissues as part of the same thing. That is likely due to the rapid sellout of Christine and the relatively quick sell-out of Fright Night.

[filmmusic]

Helo. I wanted to ask something.
i was reading some comments in TTs facebook of someone that said about a distortion on a Bluray (although in a bit aggressive way).
Anyway..
I was just thinking that other Blurays have this distortion too, and I was wondering: is it how they were released initially?

For example, if you see this screenshot from Bonjour Tristesse, it seems that it's somehow horizontally stretched (although 2.35:1 is the OAR):



But here's how this seems more right and the face doesn't seem distorted:


What do you have to say on this matter?

[Aussie-Byrd-Brother]

Guys, as many of you on this thread seem to have a great knowledge of older movies, I'm hoping someone might have an idea of a film that I saw many years ago, I'm hoping one of you might know the title. If it happens to be on bluray, then that's just a bonus!

The film is an older black and white movie (from the 40's or 50's I'm assuming). What I recall of the plot was an older husband and wife who abduct a little girl (I can't recall their reasons why), they keep her locked in a bedroom, and she gradually gets ill due to being away from medication she needs. The wife seems to have some severe depression problems. The husband eventually start to realize that they've made a big mistake, and behind the back of his wife he takes the girl, drives to another location and lets her go.

I know there's a `Please help me find this movie' etc thread, and I did post this description in there, but following the Twilight Time releases for a while now and noticing the different members that know a lot about older films made me think some of you guys and girls might be the best chance of suggesting a possible title.

Anyway, thanks anyone that can help! M.

[DJANGO]

I have not seen it in years, but it could be Bryan Forbes' SEANCE ON A WET AFTERNOON (1964) with Richard Attenborough and Kim Stanley, both of whom won acting awards for this film.

[Aussie-Byrd-Brother]

Originally Posted by DJANGO

I have not seen it in years, but it could be Bryan Forbes' SEANCE ON A WET AFTERNOON (1964) with Richard Attenborough and Kim Stanley, both of whom won acting awards for this film.

Django, THANK YOU! I think that might be it! I didn't see it right from the start, so didn't pick up on the psychic element, but the two leads more or less look like I remember! The plot with the child sounds just like it.

Much appreciated, I've been trying to find this out for years! Thank you so much!

[kngtmat]

They said they will license a film for 3 years and in a limited number of 3000 so that means no more or no less discs than that. Also the official release date is the one that matters and not when they signed a contract so if TT reissues Christine before or on the date of March 12 2016 means they did false advertising for the first run.


They could have at least be fare and allow other companies to have a chance at another release for Christine but they didn't. Especially if Sony is now allowing TT to make features for their films discs so other companies like Scream Factory should be allowed to do the same and could have easily been able to try to get FN & Christine. But TT had to be sneaky and try to get a new contract before theirs was up & before other companies had a chance.

[MifuneFan]

Originally Posted by kngtmat

They said they will license a film for 3 years and in a limited number of 3000 so that means no more or no less discs than that. Also the official release date is the one that matters and not when they signed a contract so if TT reissues Christine before or on the date of March 12 2016 means they did false advertising for the first run.
.

So you've seen the contract and its stipulations then?

[rdodolak]

Originally Posted by kngtmat

They said they will license a film for 3 years and in a limited number of 3000 so that means no more or no less discs than that. Also the official release date is the one that matters and not when they signed a contract so if TT reissues Christine before or on the date of March 12 2016 means they did false advertising for the first run.

Says who? Unless you've seen the contract they've signed you can't state that as fact.

Originally Posted by kngtmat

They could have at least be fare and allow other companies to have a chance at another release for Christine but they didn't. Especially if Sony is now allowing TT to make features for their films discs so other companies like Scream Factory should be allowed to do the same and could have easily been able to try to get FN & Christine. But TT had to be sneaky and try to get a new contract before theirs was up & before other companies had a chance.

It might not but I wonder if that could be or is the same as illegal insider trading.

Say what.

[MifuneFan]

Forget insider trading, this is clearly a sexual harassment suit. I'd also say a wrongful death case is strong too.

[wormraper]

Originally Posted by MifuneFan

Forget insider trading, this is clearly a sexual harassment suit. I'd also say a wrongful death case is strong too.

[CobraVerde]

Originally Posted by wormraper

legality wise it's fine. they can sell as many as they want. it's just the CREDIBILITY that's at risk more than anything

So people complain about the titles being 3,000 and selling out, then when the company tries to rectify that, people skewer them for actually giving the people what they ask for?

That's why the Internet is so unbelievable. Give me a break, people. Stop complaining about everything. I'd say it's the people's credibility that needs a makeover.

[wormraper]

Originally Posted by CobraVerde

So people complain about the titles being 3,000 and selling out, then when the company tries to rectify that, people skewer them for actually giving the people what they ask for?

That's why the Internet is so unbelievable. Give me a break, people. Stop complaining about everything. I'd say it's the people's credibility that needs a makeover.

the reason people could JUSTIFY the $35 (with shipping) price tag was BECAUSE of the limited availability. that's the point really

[CobraVerde]

Originally Posted by wormraper

the reason people could JUSTIFY the $35 (with shipping) price tag was BECAUSE of the limited availability. that's the point really

I can justify $35 regardless because it's the only version available, and if I like the film, there's no "price" you can put on it.

These blu-rays were never going to be "collector's edition" any more than albums or VHS or Laserdiscs or DVDs before them. In 10-15 years when everything is a download, they will be in the 25 cent bin with the rest of physical media.

So much bellyaching.

[wormraper]

Originally Posted by CobraVerde

I can justify $35 regardless because it's the only version available, and if I like the film, there's no "price" you can put on it.

These blu-rays were never going to be "collector's edition" any more than albums or VHS or Laserdiscs or DVDs before them. In 10-15 years when everything is a download, they will be in the 25 cent bin with the rest of physical media.

So much bellyaching.

oh I'm sure there's a "price" you could put on the film if you liked it or not...

the point being is they're taking bargain bin titles and doing their best to market to the collectors market (their actual words being "it's a collectors market") and pricing them high to fit their business model. It makes it easy to court the studios that way, but it makes it hard on everyone who isn't a "collector"... I guarandamntee you that without the limited edition model, the ones that HAVE sold out, wouldn't have... scalpers and re sellers are what keep them in business (since "marketing" is relegated to a few niche home theater sites)

[CobraVerde]

Originally Posted by wormraper

oh I'm sure there's a "price" you could put on the film if you liked it or not...

the point being is they're taking bargain bin titles and doing their best to market to the collectors market (their actual words being "it's a collectors market") and pricing them high to fit their business model. It makes it easy to court the studios that way, but it makes it hard on everyone who isn't a "collector"... I guarandamntee you that without the limited edition model, the ones that HAVE sold out, wouldn't have... scalpers and re sellers are what keep them in business (since "marketing" is relegated to a few niche home theater sites)

Nope, no price. I'd gladly spend $100 or $200 on a title like I did in the Laserdisc days.

They aren't priced any higher than the MSRP of discs from pretty much ANY studio. That's what you people fail to acknowledge. They just don't have 50% markdowns by third party sellers.

It's good that you can guarantee (with zero proof) that none of the titles would've sold out otherwise. That further solidifies the point that catalog titles just don't sell, which is why no one wants to release them.

[popeflick]

Originally Posted by wormraper

the reason people could JUSTIFY the $35 (with shipping) price tag was BECAUSE of the limited availability. that's the point really

It was limited. It is still limited. TT never rsaid it wouldn't get re-released. In fact, they pointed out the opposite.

You're grasping at straws with this line of "logic."