Twilight Time Discussion Thread

[dsman71]

Originally Posted by JMDiaz718

I agree. It's getting pretty hilarious paying $30+, for older (in some cases horrible) movies with next to no extras, while we pay $20 and under for newer movies and highly regarded catalogs. Not sure why Twilight Time doesn't reduce the prices on some of the stuff they can't sell. I was interested in purchasing a copy of The Rains of Ranchipur to add to my disaster collection, but $29 is steep for a movie that is widely regarded as a "bad". I noticed many Twilight Time titles, that have been out for a few years, still priced at $29.

In the case of no extras its because Sony doesnt allow studios to create extras, and in the case of the Columbia releases - they need permission. Probably the same with MGM and Fox - but at least they are putting extras on those discs. Everyone but Sony basically. And the word horrible from you could mean wonderful from somebody else
Different strokes !

[polterclown]

im pretty sure Mindwarp means horrible pretty much everywhere.
sure it has Bruce in it and the production design/gore aint that bad in the second half of the film, but it should be a 10-15 dollar priced blu ray. Period

[JMDiaz718]

Originally Posted by dsman71

And the word horrible from you could mean wonderful from somebody else
Different strokes !

The fact that I said some of these obscure titles are horrible, doesn't mean I myself dislike them. I love this type of cinema as well. But let's be honest, a bad movie we love, is still a bad movie we love.

$30 JUST because it's an obscure title, doesn't cut it. Scream Factory, Olive Films and Synapse do great work (some including extras), for under $30 a pop.

[JMDiaz718]

Originally Posted by polterclown

im pretty sure Mindwarp means horrible pretty much everywhere.
sure it has Bruce in it and the production design/gore aint that bad in the second half of the film, but it should be a 10-15 dollar priced blu ray. Period

Exactly. My point was in the price scheme, not the content (the movie itself). Well the lack of extras IS an issue as well.

[dsman71]

Originally Posted by JMDiaz718

The fact that I said some of these obscure titles are horrible, doesn't mean I myself dislike them. I love this type of cinema as well. But let's be honest, a bad movie we love, is still a bad movie we love.

$30 JUST because it's an obscure title, doesn't cut it. Scream Factory, Olive Films and Synapse do great work (including extras), for under $30 a pop.

But theyre titles are not limited to 3000 and Olive Films blu's are usually bare bones. And some of those obscure movies might be bad films in terms of poorly made, granted, I get what you said better now, but lets also face that some people think that they are Casablanca - esque

[dsman71]

Originally Posted by polterclown

im pretty sure Mindwarp means horrible pretty much everywhere.
sure it has Bruce in it and the production design/gore aint that bad in the second half of the film, but it should be a 10-15 dollar priced blu ray. Period

I havent seen Mindwarp but I doubt that I will.. going by the consensus that this one is horrible However if we were to look at TTs announcement on FB there was probably several who did say *YES!!* or *oh boy* in a good way !

[SolidBlu]

how may copies of FRIGHT NIGHT: 30th Anniversary Special Edition (1985) will be released? thanks

[PuppetMasterBlu]

Originally Posted by solidblu

how may copies of fright night: 30th anniversary special edition (1985) will be released? Thanks

3000

[JMDiaz718]

Originally Posted by SolidBlu

how may copies of FRIGHT NIGHT: 30th Anniversary Special Edition (1985) will be released? thanks

They don't specify an amount in excess of 3000, so 3000 is possibly it.

http://screenarchives.com/

[StingingVelvet]

Originally Posted by Arkadin

It has become more than obvious that all the major studios have "given up" as far as releasing their own older films, except for a few exceptions now and then.
Fox, in particular, seems to have thrown in the towel completely on any films made before 1980 or so.
guess we'll all be paying $30 for Peyton Place or The Ox-Bow Incident.
I've been happy that TT has at least provided a way to get these films on bd, but as they start having 5 and 6 titles a month I want it is becoming very problematic--i.e. not financially feasible.
the whole "classic films on bd" situation is beginning to feel rather pathetic, even though titles continue to trickle out from all these various distributors.

Catalog releases from major studios are still fairly common, but they're going to stick to mostly more popular genre stuff, stuff that really sells. Expect this trend to get worse, not better, as digital streaming takes over more and more.

Luckily we have companies like Shout, Criterion, Kino and Twilight Time who can operate on the smaller profit margins of these niche releases.

[illini2000]

The re-release of Fright Night has not sat well with me for whatever reason so I canceled my pre order of The Blob and The Believers. I think I'm done with them at this point. The cost was never an issue to me since I was used to spending a small fortune on laserdiscs back in the day, but I feel like when things say limited to 3000 they should be that and done. Another release with new transfer and extras defeats the purpose. Anyway, I'll be saving a lot of money. The releases were fun for awhile.

[captveg]

Originally Posted by illini2000

The re-release of Fright Night has not sat well with me for whatever reason so I canceled my pre order of The Blob and The Believers. I think I'm done with them at this point. The cost was never an issue to me since I was used to spending a small fortune on laserdiscs back in the day, but I feel like when things say limited to 3000 they should be that and done. Another release with new transfer and extras defeats the purpose. Anyway, I'll be saving a lot of money. The releases were fun for awhile.

They've said limited to 3000 for a minimum of three years since the beginning, meaning that after three years they could re-issue another limited run, or the licensing studio could release it themselves or license it to another company. This has never been anything different. Expecting something to never be released again for the remainder of time seems a bit odd, but then again I'm in it to watch my favorite movies, not to buy collectables.

[jayembee]

Originally Posted by Arkadin

It has become more than obvious that all the major studios have "given up" as far as releasing their own older films, except for a few exceptions now and then.
Fox, in particular, seems to have thrown in the towel completely on any films made before 1980 or so.
guess we'll all be paying $30 for Peyton Place or The Ox-Bow Incident.

Sure, I know that this is an across-the-board problem. But in a little over a one-year period, Fox dumped out 32 of their catalog titles on Blu-ray. The writing was on the wall when they stopped after March of this year. But with TT announcing Stormy Weather, and acknowledging that they will be doing The Quiller Memorandum, that writing is much clearer.

[jayembee]

Originally Posted by JMDiaz718

$30 JUST because it's an obscure title, doesn't cut it. Scream Factory, Olive Films and Synapse do great work (some including extras), for under $30 a pop.

Olive Films, at the very least, is priced the same as Twilight Time. If there's a problem with TT's pricing, it's that TT doesn't offer wholesale pricing that allows any retailer to price their titles at a discount.

[wormraper]

Originally Posted by jayembee

Olive Films, at the very least, is priced the same as Twilight Time. If there's a problem with TT's pricing, it's that TT doesn't offer wholesale pricing that allows any retailer to price their titles at a discount.

SRP is worthless. no one cares about MSRP.. street price is all that matters

no one really even looks at MSRP ...they look at the price that is going to show up on their credit card.

we don't say that Captain America the winter solider is a $40 title. we call it what it can be had for street.

also, not completely true about wholesale pricing.. when you see steep discounts across one or more websites you can guarantee that the mfg is actually subsidizing the costs of the sale, not the retailer (not always, but many times it is so)

[MikeZ.]

Originally Posted by wormraper

SRP is worthless. no one cares about MSRP.. street price is all that matters

no one really even looks at MSRP ...they look at the price that is going to show up on their credit card.

we don't say that Captain America the winter solider is a $40 title. we call it what it can be had for street.

I look at the MSRP on everything I choose to purchase. I'm always curious to see what value the manufacturer places on an item.

[wormraper]

Originally Posted by MikeZ.

I look at the MSRP on everything I choose to purchase. I'm always curious to see what value the manufacturer places on an item.

chuckle, true, I use it as a tool many times. for example if a movie has a $19.98 msrp I usually don't bite till it's between $4.99 and $7.99 as that's about the lowest it'll go for those.

[Brad1963]

The days of catalog titles from the studios are going away. Other than Warner and Universal it appears the rest are throwing in the towel. Indies like Twilight Time, Shout, Criterion, Olive, Kino, and now Arrow have taken the reigns, and I would imagine there may be more on the way.

Unlike the other Indies Twilight Time is not run by a Corporation and does not have financial backing. It was started by Nick Redman and Brian Jamieson from their own money; they initially went with this business model because they were not sure if it would take off or not. This was a risky move for them, if it failed they would get burned, so they decided to move slowly and make agreements with the studios for limited runs of 3,000 units paid at once and one and only one go. They had no idea it would take off like it did, so when they were able to renew a title they decided to go for it. To be upset that they are doing another pressing is crazy, and to constantly complain about them is not going to change anything. This is nature of the business now and forever.

[wormraper]

*chuckle

"Now and forever" ??? Sounds more like a term used in a religious ceremony by the pastor to try and convince his flock of his words

Anyone who says they know the future is usually trying to sell something

[AKORIS]

Originally Posted by Brad1963

The days of catalog titles from the studios are going away. Other than Warner and Universal it appears the rest are throwing in the towel. [B] Indies like Twilight Time, Shout, Criterion, Olive, [/B]Kino, and now Arrow have taken the reigns, and I would imagine there may be more on the way.

Unlike the other Indies Twilight Time is not run by a Corporation and does not have financial backing. It was started by Nick Redman and Brian Jamieson from their own money; they initially went with this business model because they were not sure if it would take off or not. This was a risky move for them, if it failed they would get burned, so they decided to move slowly and make agreements with the studios for limited runs of 3,000 units paid at once and one and only one go. They had no idea it would take off like it did, so when they were able to renew a title they decided to go for it. To be upset that they are doing another pressing is crazy, and to constantly complain about them is not going to change anything. This is nature of the business now and forever.

well as long as we have these studios (and an occasional studio release like the recent Lemony Snickets, Dreamcatcher, etc) then we still should be fine adding catalog titles to our collections.

I do believe still that this is the last mainstream physical media (4 k will be a niche market at best) and I'm okay with that as long as I can keep adding titles for years ahead...