Twilight Time Discussion Thread

[jayembee]

Originally Posted by ElliesDad

"Exodus"! Finally...

I just hope they have a 70mm master. The MGM DVD was mastered from 35mm.

[eriaur]

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=264473

[jayembee]

Originally Posted by eriaur

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=264473

Well, that's disappointing (but not really surprising).

[icy hot]

I'll pick up A PRAYER FOR THE DYING and CHATO'S LAND, probably skip the reissue of THUNDERBOLT AND LIGHTFOOT (picked up the Kino DVD since I missed out on the Twilight Time Blu-ray).

Rourke and Hoskins are pretty great in A PRAYER FOR THE DYING (wonky accents aside).

[StingingVelvet]

Originally Posted by oildude

Interesting that Thunderbolt and Lightfoot was originally released 2/11/2014 and is now getting re-released in April 2016. This is well within the three year period. There appears to be some flexibility now with re-releasing sell-outs before the three year window is over (unless the "timer" started months before the title's street date). This is an MGM property, the first re-release of a title licensed from that studio.

It was mentioned with some previous reissues that the 3 year agreement is from when they sign the papers, not from when the disc comes out. Thunderbolt and Lightfoot might have has a long pre-release period after the contracts were signed, for whatever reason. Either way I am thrilled to see it back again.

Now just re-release Enemy Mine and the two Sinbad movies please.

[Brad1963]

Originally Posted by jayembee

It kind of has. It was released by Sony as an MOD DVD-R.

I'm pretty much interested in all of these titles except Chato's Land. But the ones I'm most interested in are Anastasia, Exodus, Lilies of the Field, and Julia.

I find it interesting that Thunderbolt and Lightfoot is getting a reissue this soon.

I'll check it out. I will be a nice companion piece to Breathless and Bonjour Tristesse.

[Fat Phil]

Replying to someone in the comments section, Twilight Time also confirmed Who'll Stop the Rain (aka Dog Soldiers) with Nick Nolte will also be getting a blu ray release.

[stephenwilson04]

Originally Posted by StingingVelvet

It was mentioned with some previous reissues that the 3 year agreement is from when they sign the papers, not from when the disc comes out. Thunderbolt and Lightfoot might have has a long pre-release period after the contracts were signed, for whatever reason. Either way I am thrilled to see it back again.



Now just re-release Enemy Mine and the two Sinbad movies please.

Well if they re-release Enemy Mine, better artwork would be a bonus.

[tylergfoster]

I remember they confirmed they had Cutter's Way back in late 2014. There had been a thread, even. Can't find it now. Glad it's finally coming.

[belcherman]

Originally Posted by Fat Phil

Replying to someone in the comments section, Twilight Time also confirmed Who'll Stop the Rain (aka Dog Soldiers) with Nick Nolte will also be getting a blu ray release.

Great news. Great movie, Nick Nolte's second best performance after Affliction and an equally great performance by the often under-rated Tuesday Weld as the femme fatale. I just might dig out my copy of Robert Stone's Dog Soldiers and re-read it in anticipation.

[jayembee]

Originally Posted by StingingVelvet

It was mentioned with some previous reissues that the 3 year agreement is from when they sign the papers, not from when the disc comes out. Thunderbolt and Lightfoot might have has a long pre-release period after the contracts were signed, for whatever reason. Either way I am thrilled to see it back again.

I don't recall ever seeing anything official regarding this. Just people pointing that the signing of the contracts was just as likely a starting point as the release date.

I've said any number of times that because we consumers aren't privy to any information regarding TT's contracts with the studios, we can never actually know when the 3-year period begins. The release date (or pre-order date) is just the most obvious point we can latch onto; it certainly wouldn't be any later than that.

It's actually most likely to be a specified date in the contracts. Consider that if the period begins when they sign the contracts, any delays in production -- as with, say, Zardoz, in which the delay was because of Fox -- would shorten TT's window of exclusivity.

Of course, beyond all that, it's really just speculation on our part that the 3-year window must be up before they can release a new edition. If a title's original release is sold out, neither TT nor the studio has any particular reason to enforce the 3-year window before offering a reissue with a new window.

[rdodolak]

The other factor is that any contract stipulation can be changed with an agreement from both parties as seen with the instance of Christine.

[Petemo2010]

Great news about Cutter's Way one of my most aticipated releases on Blu-Ray. Of Course being a devout Charles Bronson fan Chatos Land is a welcome announcement. Last, as a die-hard Clint Eastwood fan and because I already missed it the first time, I'll gladly purchase Thunderbolt and Lightfoot. Again, some great titles announced.

[StingingVelvet]

Originally Posted by jayembee

Of course, beyond all that, it's really just speculation on our part that the 3-year window must be up before they can release a new edition. If a title's original release is sold out, neither TT nor the studio has any particular reason to enforce the 3-year window before offering a reissue with a new window.

Certainly.

The three year window is only there for TT's benefit, to remove competition while they try and sell their limited stock. They can probably waive it if they want to, or it might not even be a factor at all to them negotiating a new contract since the wording might just be "3 year moratorium on any competing contracts."

[ArnieCunningham]

Originally Posted by rdodolak

The other factor is that any contract stipulation can be changed with an agreement from both parties as seen with the instance of Christine.

What about Christine?

[BluBonnet]

Originally Posted by ArnieCunningham

What about Christine?

Well, the TT version came out in March 2013...

[ArnieCunningham]

Originally Posted by rdodolak

The other factor is that any contract stipulation can be changed with an agreement from both parties as seen with the instance of Christine.

Originally Posted by BluBonnet

Well, the TT version came out in March 2013...

I know that. Was refering to rdodolak's comment.

[rdodolak]

Originally Posted by ArnieCunningham

What about Christine?

Sony released Christine within the existing 3-year window as, it's my understanding, both parties came to a mutual agreement.

[jstxanothrxstory]

If anyone is wanting a copy of State of Grace at cost ($22 with shipping), let me know. I forgot that I ordered it with last month's signed promo, so I wound up ordering an additional copy during the sale last night.

[ArnieCunningham]

Originally Posted by rdodolak

Sony released Christine within the existing 3-year window as, it's my understanding, both parties came to a mutual agreement.

So in other words Sony and TT own rights to Christine?