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Old 01-08-2019, 11:09 AM   #2141
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Done.
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Old 01-11-2019, 08:46 AM   #2142
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No US release, rest of the world will.

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Old 01-11-2019, 07:32 PM   #2143
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[Show spoiler]No US release, rest of the world will.

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Old 01-11-2019, 10:10 PM   #2144
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I'll still believe that comes out when I see it. Has there been a UK press release that says UHD?
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Old 01-12-2019, 08:18 PM   #2145
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Done.
what is the movie that was added? The original link (now dead) was http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/movies.php?id=229590
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Old 01-12-2019, 08:19 PM   #2146
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what is the movie that was added? The original link (now dead) was http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/movies.php?id=229590
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Old 01-14-2019, 10:58 AM   #2147
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Old 01-14-2019, 01:43 PM   #2148
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Pieter, have you seen confirmation of this? I've only seen info that the 35mm was scanned at 4k for this season. But it doesn't necessitate a 4k master.
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Old 01-14-2019, 04:23 PM   #2149
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Pieter, have you seen confirmation of this? I've only seen info that the 35mm was scanned at 4k for this season. But it doesn't necessitate a 4k master.
No, but I do have an opinion:
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...8#post15851728

The movie credits are 4K rendered as well.

I know how 4K looks, even the ones based on a 4K scan. Justice League is a recent example which is based on 4K scans and 2K DI.
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I don't run the thread but I'd only list confirmed 4k masters, not hunches.
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Old 01-14-2019, 05:57 PM   #2151
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No, but I do have an opinion:
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...8#post15851728

The movie credits are 4K rendered as well.

I know how 4K looks, even the ones based on a 4K scan. Justice League is a recent example which is based on 4K scans and 2K DI.
Most 2K movies are worked up from oversampled scanning (3K or greater) and/or digital sources (2.8K etc). Are we putting all of them on the list now?
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Old 01-14-2019, 06:03 PM   #2152
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Most 2K movies are worked up from oversampled scanning (3K or greater) and/or digital sources (2.8K etc). Are we putting all of them on the list now?
No. All I am saying is, how a movie shot on film 4K native looks and not.
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Old 01-14-2019, 09:45 PM   #2153
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Pieter, have you seen confirmation of this? I've only seen info that the 35mm was scanned at 4k for this season. But it doesn't necessitate a 4k master.
I posted the deets on the Westworld thread. They create two masters, one 2K and one 4K, with the 4K one being a 2K/4K hybrid of HDR graded 4K non-VFX shots and 2K-upscaled VFX shots. The 2K is the main master for immediate use and the 4K is the one for future use with UHD-BD and 4K streaming.
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I thought WestWorld 2 looked like a very good 2k upscale. Not sure I buy it's a native 4k title. Still recommended though even though I thought the blacks were terrible.
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Apropos of nothing, I just found a pdf on the wikihacks page (having been reminded of it in the Bill Hunt "the sky is falling!" thead) that shows what Sony do/did in order to rebuild their content in 4K, given that some of their 4K remasters started out as 2K DI's e.g. Bad Boys II or Total Recall.

It's from several years ago (September 2012) and doesn't reference HDR, only their short-lived fascination with xvYCC, but the basic logistics remain: for a movie shot on film but finished out to 2K then they will rescan the OG negative (which Sony insist upon a conformed neg cut for) and upscale any titles & VFX from the existing 2K digital master files on LTO tape.

Same applies for anything shot digitally, they return to the "DOCN" ("digital" negative of the raw camera files) for any first generation material and titles & VFX are taken from the 2K master and upscaled. Each method costs about a hundred grand per title while a complete 4K workup of a movie finished on film with a cut negative is about half that.



(top two relate to turning an existing 4K master into a home video deliverable, the fourth one down read "2K but captured on Film" just like the third one when it was supposed to say "2K but captured digitally" so I've altered it for the sake of clarity)
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I posted the deets on the Westworld thread. They create two masters, one 2K and one 4K, with the 4K one being a 2K/4K hybrid of HDR graded 4K non-VFX shots and 2K-upscaled VFX shots. The 2K is the main master for immediate use and the 4K is the one for future use with UHD-BD and 4K streaming.
Source? You don't give one in the Westworld thread.
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Old 01-22-2019, 02:11 PM   #2157
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The film was restored in 4K in 2018 by 20th Century Fox at Company 3/Deluxe Entertainment Services Group, supervised by Ridley Scott and Pam Dery. The 4K scans were done at EFilm and the audio restoration was done by Audio Mechanics.
https://www.seenit.co.uk/ridley-scot...on-screenings/

Different studio, different release different master:




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No 4K release anymore.
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No 4K release anymore.
Well, Walmart is selling the Pre-order 4K title. Not sure how to get the link working, but here is the direct link to order the 4K version:

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Welcome-t...Copy/619989429
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Different studio, different release different master:

The above UK version has a date of Nov 12, 2018, while the USA version (see below) came out Jan 15, 2019 (which I received today from Amazon for 16.99 on a presale)



Would they both be equally the same?
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Different studio, different release different master:




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No 4K release anymore.
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