Samsung 4K UHD Blu-ray Player UBD-K8500 - Page 237 - Blu-ray Forum

RockyIII · 03-18-2017, 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eddievanhalen

Now that Dolby Vision is software based I think it would be possible this player gets upgraded to Dolby Vision but I don't think Samsung does that,their more interested in selling new player with built in Dolby Vision than upgrading an older one that's phasing out.

What would happen if I try to do a firmware upgrade on my European palyer using a US firmware?

HDR and Dolby Vision are virtually identical

Stumac62 · 03-18-2017, 04:45 PM

I have the UBD K85000 and the Yamaha RX-V381 connected to a Samsung KS8000.

Although tv says its 2160 and HDT I'm not sure if im getting a 4k picture. The Revenant looks like the standard bluray to my eyes.

I was expecting a huge leap in PQ.

I've seen further back in this thread advice saying: "Turn off all video processing and GUI overlay settings in the receiver (either off or pass-through, depending on the model) as those can mess with the purity of the video signal along the way"

Can anyone tell me how I switch of video processing on this receiver? I'm wading through the manual but can't find it.

I have the receiver set to Mode 1 as instructed.

Thanks,
Stuart.

RockyIII · 03-18-2017, 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stumac62

I have the UBD K85000 and the Yamaha RX-V381 connected to a Samsung KS8000.

Although tv says its 2160 and HDT I'm not sure if im getting a 4k picture. The Revenant looks like the standard bluray to my eyes.

I was expecting a huge leap in PQ.

I've seen further back in this thread advice saying: "Turn off all video processing and GUI overlay settings in the receiver (either off or pass-through, depending on the model) as those can mess with the purity of the video signal along the way"

Can anyone tell me how I switch of video processing on this receiver? I'm wading through the manual but can't find it.

I have the receiver set to Mode 1 as instructed.

Thanks,
Stuart.

Maybe your TV is 4K but lacks HDR?

Stumac62 · 03-18-2017, 04:53 PM

Hi rocky. Tv is 4k and HDR. It's certified as ultra HD premium.

Cheers,
Stuart.

RockyIII · 03-18-2017, 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stumac62

Hi rocky. Tv is 4k and HDR. It's certified as ultra HD premium.

Cheers,
Stuart.

Maybe HDR must be manually enabled from your TV? Do you see the HDR pop-up when you play a 4K/HDR disc?

Stumac62 · 03-18-2017, 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockyIII

Maybe HDR must be manually enabled from your TV? Do you see the HDR pop-up when you play a 4K/HDR disc?

Yes I did see that message pop up. The tv also automatically changes the picture settings.

I'm comparing the Revenant on 4k and the standard bluray right now. I'm now tending to think there is a difference but hope it's just not me trying to convince myself!

Cheers,
Stuart.

StingingVelvet · 03-18-2017, 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stumac62

I was expecting a huge leap in PQ.

Not saying you don't have an issue (check your cables) but UHD is more a subtle improvement. It's not a huge leap.

GeneD5 · 03-18-2017, 07:26 PM

Is it correct that we still don't have hdr on Netflix?

If I read right, they put that in firmware 1010 then backed out? My player is on 1009 with no new updates available.

GeneD5 · 03-18-2017, 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stumac62

Yes I did see that message pop up. The tv also automatically changes the picture settings.

I'm comparing the Revenant on 4k and the standard bluray right now. I'm now tending to think there is a difference but hope it's just not me trying to convince myself!

Cheers,
Stuart.

In your ks8000 tv, have you gone to settings->picture->expert settings->hdmi UHD color and enabled the input for your blu player?

Hope that's it!

Stumac62 · 03-18-2017, 10:13 PM

Thanks for the replies.

I think I'm happy that I have got 4k output. Having spent the evening doing the comparison on the 4k and standard bluray for The Revenant did show differences. The picture seems to have more detail in the background, giving more depth to the picture. Also much brighter colours, which I assume is the HDR effect.

Yes I have switched on UHD colour on HDMI 4 on the TV.

I do think my expectations were too high!

Cheers,
Stuart.

eddievanhalen · 03-18-2017, 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockyIII

HDR and Dolby Vision are virtually identical

Dolby Vision is supposed to be better, actually, the best of the best.

aneed123 · 03-19-2017, 05:36 PM

can u have dolby vision on a non hdr tv?

GeneD5 · 03-19-2017, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by aneed123

can u have dolby vision on a non hdr tv?

No bud...you can quickly look to see if you have a Dolby vision tv...only a few of the newer modes have it. Specifically LG, not Samsung or Sony...not sure what others have it. I'm very satisfied with my hdr10 though.

FilmFreakosaurus · 03-19-2017, 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aneed123

can u have dolby vision on a non hdr tv?

No. It's HDR plus higher bit depths (12 rather than 10) plus wider color along with dynamic, per-scene customization via metadata per DV display. It's a complete package.

The display and the player must have DV along with DV encoding of the disc or streaming media.

Stumac62 · 03-19-2017, 09:49 PM

Hi. Update on my quest for confirmation on 4k output - just watched Deepwater Horizon. Must say as well as it being a very good film, I was very, very impressed with the picture. Very detailed and excellent depth, almost 3D like.

Incredible special effects and great acting.

aneed123 · 03-20-2017, 04:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GeneD5

No bud...you can quickly look to see if you have a Dolby vision tv...only a few of the newer modes have it. Specifically LG, not Samsung or Sony...not sure what others have it. I'm very satisfied with my hdr10 though.

So the TV I have Im screwed?....
I have the samsung player and I like it but Im misisng out big time huh

FilmFreakosaurus · 03-20-2017, 04:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aneed123

So the TV I have Im screwed?....
I have the samsung player and I like it but Im misisng out big time huh

If you don't have HDR support, your display probably isn't very good at reproducing wider colors either.

The 2017 OLED displays from Sony and LG look promising.

cynatnite · 03-20-2017, 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aneed123

So the TV I have Im screwed?....
I have the samsung player and I like it but Im misisng out big time huh

We have a non-HDR Vizio in the living room. There is a huge improvement in picture quality that I've noticed in a lot of movies. Others, not so much. Gods of Egypt didn't impress me as much as I thought it would. The Revenant by far is the best out of what I have so far. The blu-ray of Pacific Rim was a vast improvement in it's upscale. I was surprised at how well it looked. I'm seriously considering upgrading it to 4K now.

As far as I'm concerned, HDR is not a requirement to enjoy an improved picture. Although, it does help.

eddievanhalen · 03-20-2017, 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cynatnite

We have a non-HDR Vizio in the living room. There is a huge improvement in picture quality that I've noticed in a lot of movies. Others, not so much. Gods of Egypt didn't impress me as much as I thought it would. The Revenant by far is the best out of what I have so far. The blu-ray of Pacific Rim was a vast improvement in it's upscale. I was surprised at how well it looked. I'm seriously considering upgrading it to 4K now.

As far as I'm concerned, HDR is not a requirement to enjoy an improved picture. Although, it does help.

Same case with me, I have a SDR 4K Philips T.V. plus the Samsung player and I love how 4K picture looks on it either with 4K native UHD BD's or upscaled UHD BD's.

MovieBuff02 · 03-22-2017, 01:44 AM

This player came with my 49KS8000 FREE. Watched bits of Planet Earth 2 UHD- STUNNING.

03-18-2017, 04:45 PM	#4722
Stumac62 Junior Member Member since:Mar 2017	I have the UBD K85000 and the Yamaha RX-V381 connected to a Samsung KS8000. Although tv says its 2160 and HDT I'm not sure if im getting a 4k picture. The Revenant looks like the standard bluray to my eyes. I was expecting a huge leap in PQ. I've seen further back in this thread advice saying: "Turn off all video processing and GUI overlay settings in the receiver (either off or pass-through, depending on the model) as those can mess with the purity of the video signal along the way" Can anyone tell me how I switch of video processing on this receiver? I'm wading through the manual but can't find it. I have the receiver set to Mode 1 as instructed. Thanks, Stuart.

03-18-2017, 04:53 PM	#4724
Stumac62 Junior Member Member since:Mar 2017	Hi rocky. Tv is 4k and HDR. It's certified as ultra HD premium. Cheers, Stuart.

03-18-2017, 07:26 PM	#4728
GeneD5 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Feb 2008 4K collection:244 Blu-ray collection:246 Trading Score:168	Is it correct that we still don't have hdr on Netflix? If I read right, they put that in firmware 1010 then backed out? My player is on 1009 with no new updates available.

03-18-2017, 10:13 PM	#4730
Stumac62 Junior Member Member since:Mar 2017	Thanks for the replies. I think I'm happy that I have got 4k output. Having spent the evening doing the comparison on the 4k and standard bluray for The Revenant did show differences. The picture seems to have more detail in the background, giving more depth to the picture. Also much brighter colours, which I assume is the HDR effect. Yes I have switched on UHD colour on HDMI 4 on the TV. I do think my expectations were too high! Cheers, Stuart.

03-19-2017, 05:36 PM	#4732
aneed123 Active Member Member since:Dec 2009 Location:Lithonia, GA Home Theater Gallery:32 Blu-ray collection:75	can u have dolby vision on a non hdr tv?

03-19-2017, 09:49 PM	#4735
Stumac62 Junior Member Member since:Mar 2017	Hi. Update on my quest for confirmation on 4k output - just watched Deepwater Horizon. Must say as well as it being a very good film, I was very, very impressed with the picture. Very detailed and excellent depth, almost 3D like. Incredible special effects and great acting.

03-22-2017, 01:44 AM	#4740
MovieBuff02 Junior Member Member since:Mar 2017	This player came with my 49KS8000 FREE. Watched bits of Planet Earth 2 UHD- STUNNING.

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