Samsung 4K UHD Blu-ray Player UBD-K8500

[katiehlvr2]

Originally Posted by Ruined

Looking at AVSFORUM it looks like this player has all sorts of major video quality glitches, especially in the advanced video features. Further, it apparently does not work with IR blasters as it uses some proprietary IR coding. A lot of people returning and waiting for Panasonic.

I guess you cant please everyone. Sounds like others are going in and just complicating things. I now have watched 2 uhd titles and 2 blu rays.
The picture is wonderful. Will continue to buy uhd films from here on out.
Especially 4k shot. Chappie and Hancock are next.

[docmike]

*excited for my next lynching for loving having a 78" curved IMAX screen in my living room

[Mavrick]

Originally Posted by montyb

You cannot take away the fact that the black bands make the image smaller. That's why I feel films framed at 1.78 are bigger and badder than the smaller 2.35 image (plus 3D looks more immersive in 1.78. Look at James Cameron's Avatar and Titanic in 1.85 without much cropping from the sides). The BIGGER the image, the better 4K looks!

I've enjoyed black bars in 3D films when they have used them to enhance the 3D effect, such as in Life of Pi when the flying fish come out of the black bars, that was a very nice touch.

Shame there's no 3D 4k content though. I guess 3DBD discs will work in 3D on the sammy? Anyone tried out a 3D disc yet?

[JJ]

Let me tell you, I'm reading the last 5-6 pages of the Owner's Thread over on AVSForum - fascinating stuff going on over there, both good and bad.

Everyone seems to have positive impressions of the image quality, but frustrated over the setup necessary to maximize image quality.

[chip75]

Originally Posted by montyb

You cannot take away the fact that the black bands make the image smaller.

Which initially was the exact opposite of CinemaScope presentation's intentions. It would be nice to see more 21:9 TVs on the market to show off bigger pictures.

[dvdmike]

Originally Posted by JJ

Let me tell you, I'm reading the last 5-6 pages of the Owner's Thread over on AVSForum - fascinating stuff going on over there, both good and bad.

Everyone seems to have positive impressions of the image quality, but frustrated over the setup necessary to maximize image quality.

My purchase will be paved with the blood of the early adoptee

[Mtnbiker2001]

Originally Posted by Mavrick

I've enjoyed black bars in 3D films when they have used them to enhance the 3D effect, such as in Life of Pi when the flying fish come out of the black bars, that was a very nice touch.

Shame there's no 3D 4k content though. I guess 3DBD discs will work in 3D on the sammy? Anyone tried out a 3D disc yet?

Works great! Great picture and good 3D!

[Mavrick]

Originally Posted by Mtnbiker2001

Works great! Great picture and good 3D!

Good to here. I guess 3D BD plays in full 1080p now?

I kind of wish that the UHDBDs were bundled with 3D versions where applicable, going to suck having to buy the UHDBD and a separate 3DBD if you want to see it in 3D too.

[Five Inches]

Originally Posted by chip75

Which initially was the exact opposite of CinemaScope presentation's intentions. It would be nice to see more 21:9 TVs on the market to show off bigger pictures.

(not directed at you personally)

Whatever aspect you pick on your TV it will always be a compromise between the three most common aspects, to simplify; "Academy", "Widescreen" and "Scope".

I picked a 16:9 framed canvas for my projection, because I watch lots of Academy ratio stuff as well. Sure, ~1.78:1 looks bigger on the screen, but the Scope ratio looks perfectly fine and I've never been distracted by black bars, not even back on my 4:3 TV. To me it's all about OAR.

How you consume your movies is none of my business, but cropping away content that is supposed to be seen is not the way of a film enthusiast, my two cents worth. Warner distributed 16:9 pan & scan version of Branagh's "Hamlet" is one of the major reasons I stopped watching movies on broadcast TV (2006-ish). This was of course before I got into HD.

[cole2kb]

Originally Posted by montyb

Streaming will always be crap compared to physical media. Even with high internet speeds the compression in streaming ruins what could be a beautiful picture. I have even noticed blocking in the blacks streaming 4K material on Amazon, Netflix and Vudu. And Vudu needs to gets its act together because the ONLY way we can get 4K from them is through Roku 4 (seems our UHD TVs and UHD blu ray players are pushing 1080p on Vudu app). Give me physical media anyday over streaming because I am one finicky videophile wanting my images to look their best.

Streaming is fully capable of producing rival quality as long as the providers do their jobs correctly and your internet connection can support it. I honestly wanted this to be the year I began to go "all digital" with my brand new 4K set and my 200/20 connection. Unfortunately, I quickly discovered that was not the case when my rentals from Ultraflix were both underwhelming in quality and cropped to 16:9. Ugh.

[bruceames]

Originally Posted by dvdmike

HDR is a grading choice not everyone will adopt and will not suit all content

All but about 98% of it. How far back will they go with HDR, about 2 years? Definitely not interested in classics with HDR, nor even more recent movies like TDK Returns or Avatar. That would be revisionist. So HDR is for new movies only. I watch a lot of new movies when a new format comes out, but after the eye candy loses its novelty, the vast majority of my viewing is older movies.

[Five Inches]

On streaming; technology is a few steps ahead of streaming all the time it seems. Internet capacities that match BD or UHDBD bitrates is not commonplace, and the providers will not stream with anything that'll match physical media.

I don't think disc is in any way less convenient. But then I only watch movies on 117" projected canvas. Watching them on a smaller screen than my 46" will never happen (again).

If all I want to do is rent, sure streaming will be fine. But when it comes to my collection - I want the best PQ/AQ available, and streaming ain't it.

[bruceames]

Originally Posted by katiehlvr2

I guess you cant please everyone. Sounds like others are going in and just complicating things. I now have watched 2 uhd titles and 2 blu rays.
The picture is wonderful. Will continue to buy uhd films from here on out.
Especially 4k shot. Chappie and Hancock are next.

Same here. I'm very pleased with my player and that 2K UHD BD looks much better than I thought it would. Very excited to watch more content, especially native 4K.

[scorpiontail60]

Originally Posted by elwaylite

Robert has a background in broadcast IIRC, prob best to pay attention.

>implying that broadcasters aren't incompetent dolts

Everything about the broadcast system is ****ing pathetic, from its usage of the MPEG-2 codec to the low bitrates resulting in macroblocking galore that we've had to put up with for over a decade now. I have seen so many incompetent broadcasts it's insane.

[docmike]

What are ppl saying is the best settings for picture for a uhd hdr tv? It doesn't seem like there's many settings to even change. I have both hdmi color and dark to auto

[katiehlvr2]

Originally Posted by docmike

What are ppl saying is the best settings for picture for a uhd hdr tv? It doesn't seem like there's many settings to even change. I have both hdmi color and dark to auto

Docmike
I know the deep color setting on the player but what is the other feature you are referring to?
Dark setting?

[movielover1069]

Has anyone tried playing a regular DVD in the player yet to see how the upscale looks?

[aaronwt2065]

Originally Posted by elwaylite

Lot of deep color confusion too.

No problem with Deep color set to auto on my K8500 and my Sony 850C.

I can't wait until I get more UHD BD titles to try out. I picked up Kingsman today and I'm amazed at how much more detail is there. Between that and HDR it looks fantastic. If Kingsman is actually a 2K master then I can't wait until I see a UHD BD from a real 4K master.

Ironically it seems to be the people with Samsung UHD TVs that are having issues with the Samsung K8500.

[elwaylite]

Originally Posted by aaronwt2065

No problem with Deep color set to auto on my K8500 and my Sony 850C.

I can't wait until I get more UHD BD titles to try out. I picked up Kingsman today and I'm amazed at how much more detail is there. Between that and HDR it looks fantastic. If Kingsman is actually a 2K master then I can't wait until I see a UHD BD from a real 4K master.

Ironically it seems to be the people with Samsung UHD TVs that are having issues with the Samsung K8500.

Good to hear. Can't wait to test the LG.

[docmike]

For those curious. Watching pacific rim 3d bd on player and def better 3d depth and PQ than my ps4