The Official Yamaha RX V663 Owners Thread

[ReggaetonSalsero]

Originally Posted by crackinhedz

the PS3 will never display "TrueHD" on your receiver. It will only show up as Multichannel PCM.

This is because it is being decoded inside the PS3 first.

Also make sure you are selecting the correct audio track on the movie itself. Then hit the "display" or "select" button on the PS3 remote, this will show you what audio is being played.

Hey bud, i did exactly as u said i understand that all, but the problem with this yamaha 663 is that it doesn't have a multi channel selection. On the tuner knob i can choose a multi channel label but for whatever reason this receiver doesn't let me change anything the way the onkyo's used to like dds or dts or cinema, stuff like that. Also, when i ran the auto calibration, the first time a warning came out saying f/l speaker was out of phase, then i ran it again and it said the wiring was off, then i did it again a 3rd time then it said all the front speakers are off. I went out and bought expensive banana plugs and thick monster cables...guess what, still saying the same crap and nothing is sticking to gether. then my back left surround speaker made popping sounds twice. I checked the wiring i don't know how many times. These receivers are always giving me issues. Any ideas?

[ReggaetonSalsero]

Originally Posted by crackinhedz

the PS3 will never display "TrueHD" on your receiver. It will only show up as Multichannel PCM.

This is because it is being decoded inside the PS3 first.

Also make sure you are selecting the correct audio track on the movie itself. Then hit the "display" or "select" button on the PS3 remote, this will show you what audio is being played.

Yeah it doesn't say multi channel at all not on the ps3 either. I rechecked the ps3 to make sure the sound part on the ps3 menu was reading everything and it is. But still, it doesn't say multi channel pcm. I put in batman begins but only regular 5.1 d/d comes out and that movie doesn't let me change or switch to d/d hd.

[crackinhedz]

Originally Posted by ReggaetonSalsero

I put in batman begins but only regular 5.1 d/d comes out and that movie doesn't let me change or switch to d/d hd.

do you have the BD remote or just a game controller?

if you have the BD remote, just hit the "pop up menu" or the "audio" button. Not sure what the equivalent is for the game controller. (triangle will bring up options, look for this icon: pop-up menu or Audio )

[ReggaetonSalsero]

Originally Posted by crackinhedz

do you have the BD remote or just a game controller?

if you have the BD remote, just hit the "pop up menu" or the "audio" button. Not sure what the equivalent is for the game controller. (triangle will bring up options, look for this icon: pop-up menu or Audio )

No i have the game controller and yes i hit the triangle and i went to audio but that only changes the audio to different languages and doesn't give u the options to change anything else. I don't get why batman begins doesn't let u choose which format u want to listen to on ur own. Any ideas on what i said in the past post about the warnings i got from the receiver?

[STARKILLER--1138]

Originally Posted by ReggaetonSalsero

No i have the game controller and yes i hit the triangle and i went to audio but that only changes the audio to different languages and doesn't give u the options to change anything else. I don't get why batman begins doesn't let u choose which format u want to listen to on ur own. Any ideas on what i said in the past post about the warnings i got from the receiver?

DTHD is "english 2." So, if you select english 2, put your receiver on "Straight" to hear DTHD.

As for the warnings you got on the receiver, always check your connections first. Make sure the speaker wire is connected correctly (positive to positive and negative to negative). When I first set mine up, the "wire out of phase warning" came up for my right rear speaker. Checked the connections, and it was good. Just a flaw of the auto calibration I guess. You can follow Sling's suggestion (on page 6 I think) to get the warning to go away.

Enjoy!

[ReggaetonSalsero]

Originally Posted by Lil' Louie

DTHD is "english 2." So, if you select english 2, put your receiver on "Straight" to hear DTHD.

As for the warnings you got on the receiver, always check your connections first. Make sure the speaker wire is connected correctly (positive to positive and negative to negative). When I first set mine up, the "wire out of phase warning" came up for my right rear speaker. Checked the connections, and it was good. Just a flaw of the auto calibration I guess. You can follow Sling's suggestion (on page 6 I think) to get the warning to go away.

Enjoy!

Thanks but i didn't see that option. Does anyone know how to get MULTI CHANNEL output out of this receiver with the hdmi cable?

[blu master]

Originally Posted by wotter

Got mine:



Waiting for speakers to hook everything up.

I just bought the 6160 for $391 inc tax i'm picking it up tomorrow morning after work

[Headphone Czar]

Originally Posted by dobyblue

I'm sorry but you don't know what you're talking about. The sampling rate of a DAC has nothing to do with which DAC is being used. There are lots of 24/192 DAC's made from various companies, including several models from Burr Brown. Their specifications are all different.

The Yamaha RX-V3800 uses PCM1791A DAC's, which have 113 dB of dynamic range and are capable of DSD conversion and PCM at 24/192. The Denon 4308CI and Yammy RX-V1800 also use this DAC.
http://focus.ti.com/docs/prod/folder.../pcm1791a.html

(The links are mostly to Texas Instruments, because that's who owns Burr Brown now)

The Yamaha RX-Z9 uses a far better DAC than the 3800, the DSD1792, which is capable of 132 dB of dynamic range and DSD to analog conversion and PCM at 24/192. It doesn't support TrueHD or dts-ma though.
http://focus.ti.com/docs/prod/folder...t/dsd1792.html

This is the ONLY Yamaha receiver with this DAC.

The Yamaha RX-Z11, Onkyo 805, 875 and 905 use the PCM1796 DAC, which has dynamic range of 123 dB and of course DSD to analog and 24/192 PCM. The Denon 5308CI also employs this DAC.
http://focus.ti.com/docs/prod/folder...t/pcm1796.html

To summarize:

Burr-Brown PCM1791A  113dB SNR  $ 3.00/ea    Yamaha RX-V3800, Yamaha RX-V1800, Denon 3808, 4308 and DVD-2930CI
Burr-Brown PCM1796   123dB SNR  $ 6.50/ea    Yamaha RX-Z11, Onkyo 805/875/905, Denon 5308 and DVD-3930CI
Burr-Brown PCM1792A  127dB SNR  $13.00/ea    ? 
Burr-Brown PCM1792   132dB SNR  $13.65/ea    Yamaha RX-Z9, Denon 5805ci and DVD-5910

Sure if the components surrounding the PCM1792 chip are crap then you're going to get crap out, but usually this is not the case. It's important to know that the majority of DAC's support 24/192 right now and also Burr Brown is not the best name in DAC's either. The new $7,000 flagship Pioneer Elite receiver for example, the SC-09TXH, uses Wolfson DAC's.

http://www.pioneerelectronics.ca/POC...ivers/SC-09TXH

I hope this helps a little for you and others to understand DAC's a little better. When someone is considering Blu-ray or Super Audio CD, where dynamic range can play an important part in your overall listening enjoyment, getting deeper into DAC's and how they work is important. Super Audio CD has a dynamic range of 120 dB, so why would you want to get a DAC with only 113 dB dynamic range if SACD is important?

Nice list. I know my Benchmark DAC1 ran circles over my HK 146 for 2 channel.. But, if you are displeased with the DAC in your receiver you can always get a external DAC.. Which in most cases will be better.. But no external dac I know of is compatible with bit stream, nor does it have HDMI support. But for 2 channel, stereo for music it's hard to beat.

[Sling]

A great DAC discussion thread

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=58172

[smail.nathan]

hey everybody...i just got this receiver about a month ago, and I love it. Work great with everything. Have watched numerous blu-rays on my PS3 since I bouht it, and they all sound great, both in Dolby TrueHD and DTS MA. PS3 is set to linear pcm, as it should be. Question is this: every movie encoded in the high res sound formats have sounded greated with no probls. However, tonight, the wife and i went to watch harold and kumar go to guantanomo bay (with DTS MA), and all of of my speakers had a "popping" noise once every twenty minutes or so. It was quite loud, but only lasted a second each time. If you rewound it, it happens in the same exact places every time. I don't have this problem with any other movie. Anybody else have this problem with this receiver/ps3 combo? Any ideas as to what I should do?

[jomari]

Originally Posted by Sling

A great DAC discussion thread

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=58172

i actually wondered why that thread died down...

back on track...

the yammy is actually a great deal comparing it to the newer line of receivers out there... having this, the 1018, of course the infamous 606, and the 1909 (to a certain extent) as great competitors. if you have a small to mid size room, it can do well for its price point. you can also end up using external amps to boost how hard it can go...

but with burrbrowns? id be happy with it.

[twssas]

Been looking at this yamaha 663 for sometime now, along with the new sony bd350, and have a question.....
if you bitstream everything from bd350 to the yamaha 663, are you limited to 5.1 capabilities? I read somewhere here or in AVS, that if bitstreaming, the yamaha will not matrix to either 6.1 or 7.1

If this is the case, in order to really "futureproof", should I consider the sony bd550, or the panasonic bd50, to decode everything in the player, and then have 6.1 or 7.1 capabilities.

I think I have been reading too much stuff......it is all kinda runnning together....

I just want to insure I can enjoy all the new codecs with all my speakers.

Thanks

[ItsGettingHotInEER]

Really thinking about taking my Onkyo 606 back and getting this Yammy. What does everyone think, I'm happy with the audio of my Onkyo, but, I still feel it does something weird to my video even when I have it set to through, would most agree this is a better choice, even if for the simple fact I know this Yammy will not do anyting to my signal.

[Sling]

Originally Posted by smail.nathan

hey everybody...i just got this receiver about a month ago, and I love it. Work great with everything. Have watched numerous blu-rays on my PS3 since I bouht it, and they all sound great, both in Dolby TrueHD and DTS MA. PS3 is set to linear pcm, as it should be. Question is this: every movie encoded in the high res sound formats have sounded greated with no probls. However, tonight, the wife and i went to watch harold and kumar go to guantanomo bay (with DTS MA), and all of of my speakers had a "popping" noise once every twenty minutes or so. It was quite loud, but only lasted a second each time. If you rewound it, it happens in the same exact places every time. I don't have this problem with any other movie. Anybody else have this problem with this receiver/ps3 combo? Any ideas as to what I should do?

Never had pop effect on mine.
Question , Was pop present during chapter change?...If so you may need to clean PS3 laser.

[Sling]

Originally Posted by twssas

Been looking at this yamaha 663 for sometime now, along with the new sony bd350, and have a question.....

First off great choices.

Originally Posted by twssas

if you bitstream everything from bd350 to the yamaha 663, are you limited to 5.1 capabilities?

Yammy 663 is 7.1 capable ..not sure about bd350

Originally Posted by twssas

I read somewhere here or in AVS, that if bitstreaming, the yamaha will not matrix to either 6.1 or 7.1

Dont know..I use mine 5.1 PCM

Originally Posted by twssas

If this is the case, in order to really "futureproof", should I consider the sony bd550, or the panasonic bd50, to decode everything in the player, and then have 6.1 or 7.1 capabilities.

You want future proof, go with PS3 and wait a year for your standalone purchase.

[Sling]

Originally Posted by ItsGettingHotInEER

Really thinking about taking my Onkyo 606 back and getting this Yammy. What does everyone think, I'm happy with the audio of my Onkyo, but, I still feel it does something weird to my video even when I have it set to through, would most agree this is a better choice, even if for the simple fact I know this Yammy will not do anyting to my signal.

Not putting down Onkyo..just laying out facts,
Heat is electronic devices worst enemy as I'm sure you know.
Onkyos receivers are hot boxes and with that comes early failure.

Ive owned 663 for over 2 months finding it to run very cool , Excellent SQ and PQ.

[crackinhedz]

Originally Posted by twssas

Been looking at this yamaha 663 for sometime now, along with the new sony bd350, and have a question.....
if you bitstream everything from bd350 to the yamaha 663, are you limited to 5.1 capabilities?

you will not be able to matrix the lossless bitstream signal. (pcm signal yes, bitstream no)

[Jackeroo75]

Originally Posted by Sling

Never had pop effect on mine.
Question , Was pop present during chapter change?...If so you may need to clean PS3 laser.

THis is clearly an issue with the encoding of the disc!! DTS-HD MA sucks!! Check out the avs forum

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...php?p=14424282

[bigpapy]

any one knows if this reciver can matrix 5.1 to 7.1?

[Yeha-Noha]

Originally Posted by bigpapy

any one knows if this reciver can matrix 5.1 to 7.1?

It does not matrix 5.1 to 7.1 DTS-HD MA or DD THD bitstreams to the V663. It can only matrix 5.1 DTS-HD MA and DD THD that's decoded in the player and sent as PCM through HDMI. IOW, the V663 can matrix any 5.1 source to 7.1 thats PCM or lossy DTS/DD 5.1 bitstreams.