Samsung 4K UHD Blu-ray Player UBD-K8500

[RockyIII]

Originally Posted by BrownianMotion

What version is your Netflix app, by the way? And when you have the chance, would you mind taking a pic of the new UI and posting it here?

Sure. I'l do it this afternoon after work.

[keremix]

Hi,

I have just bought a Samsung UBD-K8500 to pair with my Samsung 4K TV. I have a very specific question and I was hoping someone could help.

I bought a couple of Monster HDMI Cables with Performance Indicators. Based on some of the reviews I have read, I have connected the amplifier to the Bluray player with one hdmi cable and the other one from bluray player to the tv. I have then changed the settings on the UBD-K8500 and directed the audio to HDMI 2 port of the bluray player. When I have put an UHD Blu Ray to test, I noticed both indicators of the HDMI Cables show "HD" as opposed to "4K".

Later on, I have removed one of the HDMI Cables and directed both video and audio to the HDMI 1 port of the UBD-K8500. When I played the same disk, this time the indicator was showing "4K".

Based on the above, am I right to assume that connecting the UBD-K8500 only with one HDMI cable gives a better result?

Many thanks in advance!

[FilmFreakosaurus]

Originally Posted by keremix

Hi,

I have just bought a Samsung UBD-K8500 to pair with my Samsung 4K TV. I have a very specific question and I was hoping someone could help.

I bought a couple of Monster HDMI Cables with Performance Indicators. Based on some of the reviews I have read, I have connected the amplifier to the Bluray player with one hdmi cable and the other one from bluray player to the tv. I have then changed the settings on the UBD-K8500 and directed the audio to HDMI 2 port of the bluray player. When I have put an UHD Blu Ray to test, I noticed both indicators of the HDMI Cables show "HD" as opposed to "4K".

Later on, I have removed one of the HDMI Cables and directed both video and audio to the HDMI 1 port of the UBD-K8500. When I played the same disk, this time the indicator was showing "4K".

Based on the above, am I right to assume that connecting the UBD-K8500 only with one HDMI cable gives a better result?

Many thanks in advance!

First of all, you wasted a lot of money on those fancy Monster Cables that don't really do you a lick of good and hopefully you can return them for a refund. You could snag perfectly fine Monoprice Certified Premium 18 Gbps cables for a fraction of the price with the difference going towards UHD discs.

Secondly, the HDMI 1 port is HDCP 2.2 and 2.0a compliant and can send 4k video with HDR10 and audio together. That's for when you have a similarly compliant receiver or pre-amp in the chain that will allow 4k and HDR10 signals to pass-through to the display.

Otherwise, the HDMI 2 port is supposedly 1.4 with a lower level of HDCP encryption that only sends audio in case your 4k TV is fully compliant, but your receiver or pre-amp is not.

[keremix]

Originally Posted by FilmFreakosaurus

First of all, you wasted a lot of money on those fancy Monster Cables and hopefully you can return them for a refund. You could snag perfectly fine Monoprice Certified Premium 18 Gbps cables for a fraction of the price with the difference going towards UHD discs.

Secondly, the HDMI 1 port is HDCP 2.2 and 2.0a compliant and can send 4k video with HDR10 and audio together. That's for when you have a similarly compliant receiver or pre-amp in the chain that will allow 4k and HDR10 signals to pass-through to the display.

Otherwise, the HDMI 2 port is 1.4 with a lower level of HDCP encryption that only sends audio in case your 4k TV is fully compliant, but your receiver or pre-amp is not.

thank you for your detailed answer. my tv and receiver are both fully compliant. based on this, which method (using only HDMI 1 port vs both ports) would be the preferred one?

[FilmFreakosaurus]

Originally Posted by keremix

thank you for your detailed answer. my tv and receiver are both fully compliant. based on this, which method (using only HDMI 1 port vs both ports) would be the preferred one?

Send both via HDMI 1 to the receiver. Turn off all video processing and GUI overlay settings in the receiver (either off or pass-through, depending on the model) as those can mess with the purity of the video signal along the way.

Then HDMI monitor out to one of the TV's HDMI inputs.

There may be a setting in the TV that you have to enable for 10 bit video processing. Samsung's normally have HDMI UHD Color mode. Sony's normally have HDMI Enhanced mode. Check with your manual for more specifics.

The player should have Deep Color set to off and other changes to the settings discussed in this thread.

If you have a Samsung display, turn off BD-Wise on both the player and the TV.

Be sure HDMI audio has Dynamic Range and PCM downconversion set to Off as well in the Samsung player menu.

My suggestion on returning the Monster Cables and saving some money still stands, however.

[keremix]

Originally Posted by FilmFreakosaurus

Send both via HDMI 1 to the receiver. Turn off all video processing and GUI overlay settings in the receiver (either off or pass-through, depending on the model) as those can mess with the purity of the video signal along the way.

Then HDMI monitor out to one of the TV's HDMI inputs.

There may be a setting in the TV that you have to enable for 10 bit video processing. Samsung's normally have HDMI UHD Color mode. Sony's normally have HDMI Enhanced mode. Check with your manual for more specifics.

The player should have Deep Color set to off and other changes to the settings discussed in this thread.

If you have a Samsung display, turn off BD-Wise on both the player and the TV.

Be sure HDMI audio has Dynamic Range and PCM downconversion set to Off as well in the Samsung player menu.

My suggestion on returning the Monster Cables and saving some money still stands, however.

this is very helpful. thank you very much!

[FilmFreakosaurus]

Originally Posted by keremix

this is very helpful. thank you very much!

No sweat. You're welcome.

Oh, and if you missed it among the many pages here... since you have a receiver, also set the Sammy's HDMI audio out to Bitstream (Unprocessed).

[larrs]

Originally Posted by RockyIII

Can anyone else confirm this on your device?

It is gone on every device that is on the latest Netflix update.

[RockyIII]

Originally Posted by larrs

It is gone on every device that is on the latest Netflix update.

Latest update is one step back and looks very primitive

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-J320A using Tapatalk

[Scarface32]

Does anyone else think the remote of a piece of crap? It makes the Apple TV remote seem good.

The buttons are so cramped, it's so easy to press the wrong one (especially in the dark, when you can't see the buttons). I'm referring mainly to the up, down, left, right, and ok buttons.

[imhh1]

Originally Posted by Scarface32

Does anyone else think the remote of a piece of crap? It makes the Apple TV remote seem good.

The buttons are so cramped, it's so easy to press the wrong one (especially in the dark, when you can't see the buttons). I'm referring mainly to the up, down, left, right, and ok buttons.

yup the remote suck.
I ordered this one, I read on AVSforum that it works with our player.
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/152275338451?...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

[HansYupp]

ya, the remote is almost useless. I noticed a friend's 2015 Samsung TV has the same remote but less buttons. I chuckled.

I use my TV's remote to control player though HDMI-CEC, but I have other Samsung BD player remotes sitting around in drawers.

[keremix]

Originally Posted by FilmFreakosaurus

No sweat. You're welcome.

Oh, and if you missed it among the many pages here... since you have a receiver, also set the Sammy's HDMI audio out to Bitstream (Unprocessed).

I didn't quite get this part. What do you mean by this exactly?

[FilmFreakosaurus]

Originally Posted by keremix

I didn't quite get this part. What do you mean by this exactly?

In the Samsung setup menu for sound, go to HDMI audio out and set it to Bitstream (Unprocessed). That way the raw audio tracks off the disc or streaming app get sent to your receiver. Turn off PCM Downconversion and Dynamic Range Control as well. You want the player to leave the audio data untouched.

[Mavrick]

So, the Netflix app on the player doesn't support HDR? I haven't used it on the player for a while but I was sure it used to play HDR

[FilmFreakosaurus]

Originally Posted by Mavrick

So, the Netflix app on the player doesn't support HDR? I haven't used it on the player for a while but I was sure it used to play HDR

The Netflix apps in the 2015 Samsung UHD TVs and this player have not been updated for HDR10 pass through. Promises have been made, but nothing concrete yet.

[Mavrick]

Originally Posted by FilmFreakosaurus

The Netflix apps in the 2015 Samsung UHD TVs and this player have not been updated for HDR10 pass through. Promises have been made, but nothing concrete yet.

Must have been imagining it then. I have it on the KS7000 in HDR, though I think the TV has had a couple updates recently and a few things seemed to have changed.

I can no longer view the source info by hitting the "123" button on the Samsung smart remote then selecting the "i" to show the screen resolution and if it is displaying HDR etc.

Does anyone know if you can pull up the screen resolution on the netflix app like you can on PC/Consoles etc?

[FilmFreakosaurus]

Originally Posted by Mavrick

Must have been imagining it then. I have it on the KS7000 in HDR, though I think the TV has had a couple updates recently and a few things seemed to have changed.

I can no longer view the source info by hitting the "123" button on the Samsung smart remote then selecting the "i" to show the screen resolution and if it is displaying HDR etc.

Does anyone know if you can pull up the screen resolution on the netflix app like you can on PC/Consoles etc?

The info screen for Netflix has been taken off.

[keremix]

Originally Posted by FilmFreakosaurus

In the Samsung setup menu for sound, go to HDMI audio out and set it to Bitstream (Unprocessed). That way the raw audio tracks off the disc or streaming app get sent to your receiver. Turn off PCM Downconversion and Dynamic Range Control as well. You want the player to leave the audio data untouched.

thank you! I will do this too

[eddievanhalen]

I have a 40'' Philips 4K T.V. set that has no HDR but it does have a 10 bit panel display. On the picture settings I have HDMI color set to Auto and Deep Color off. What will happen if I keep HDMI color to auto and change Deep Color to Auto instead of off? Will the Samsung player output a 10 bit video signal and improve color?