List of International BDs with Better PQ, AQ, and/or More Extras - ARCHIVED

[Moe Szyslak]

Originally Posted by amoergosum

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http://www.movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=416291

Interesting, thanks for the info. Never seen the extended cut, I've been disappointed that it hasn't been released on BD in the US. Has Mangold confirmed that the theatrical version is his preferred cut?

Side rant...when two, distinct cuts of a film have been released previously on home media, I get annoyed when studios elect to release only one version for BD. Almost Famous suffers from this issue. For how to do it right, see The Exorcist digibook.

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by wesslan

A extended version is on the way so I would wait

I'm still waiting on those extended cuts of True Lies and Terminator 3 that Cameron and Mostow (respectively) promised.

For me, until they've been officially announced it's never certain.

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by Moe Szyslak

Side rant...when two, distinct cuts of a film have been released previously on home media, I get annoyed when studios elect to release only one version for BD. Almost Famous suffers from this issue. For how to do it right, see The Exorcist digibook.

I've ranted on this too.

I'm all for extended/Director's cuts but they should *always* release a film as it was in theaters as well. If you can't branch it, include or sell it separately on another disc.

[wesslan]

Lethal Weapon 2, UK wins big

http://caps-a-holic.com/hd_vergleich...n=1&lossless=1

[TheOneWithThePrize]

Originally Posted by wesslan

Lethal Weapon 2, UK wins big

http://caps-a-holic.com/hd_vergleich...n=1&lossless=1

Compared to the old US standalone, yes, undoubtedly so. The US LW Collection is identical however.

[Kristian Idol]

Originally Posted by Moe Szyslak

when two, distinct cuts of a film have been released previously on home media, I get annoyed when studios elect to release only one version for BD. Almost Famous suffers from this issue. For how to do it right, see The Exorcist digibook.

Also Dances with Wolves - US is only the 4-hour version.

Another well done version (a fix, actually) was Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels. There were two DVDs with different extras. They put out a Blu with only one DVD's extras - I was bummed - but then for the combo, they included the other DVD with the other extras! Perfect!

(Goof, do you want an entry for Lock, Stock even though it's a better US version? i.e. US 1-disc / US combo, more extras)

[Early Memphis]

Originally Posted by Kristian Idol

Also Dances with Wolves - US is only the 4-hour version.
Another well done version (a fix, actually) was Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels. There were two DVDs with different extras. They put out a Blu with only one DVD's extras - I was bummed - but then for the combo, they included the other DVD with the other extras! Perfect!

(Goof, do you want an entry for Lock, Stock even though it's a better US version? i.e. US 1-disc / US combo, more extras)

You got a link for that? I can't find it on BRDC, they only list two versions of the same single disc (2009 & 2011).

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by Kristian Idol

Also Dances with Wolves - US is only the 4-hour version.

Another well done version (a fix, actually) was Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels. There were two DVDs with different extras. They put out a Blu with only one DVD's extras - I was bummed - but then for the combo, they included the other DVD with the other extras! Perfect!

(Goof, do you want an entry for Lock, Stock even though it's a better US version? i.e. US 1-disc / US combo, more extras)

I try to limit the list just to non-U.S. release(s) that are superior to the U.S. release(s).

[Kristian Idol]

Originally Posted by Early Memphis

You got a link for that? I can't find it on BRDC, they only list two versions of the same single disc (2009 & 2011).

It's this one:



...but the database has the incorrect image (as of 26 March, 4:10 pm PST). I'll scan mine and upload it and it should be updated in a day or two. It's the US Blu-ray combo: BD/DVD/digital copy.

(Note: neither Blu has great PQ. Lock Stock was micro budget, shot on 16mm in some low-light situations. It's a grain-fest. I just wanted all the extras.)

[wesslan]

Originally Posted by TheOneWithThePrize

Compared to the old US standalone, yes, undoubtedly so. The US LW Collection is identical however.

Ah yes US got that set also now, forget what I said

[Ben_R]

Does anyone know which releases are superior in AQ, PQ & OAR? Are there any better releases available that are either Region Free or Region B compatible? I'm happy to mix and match to get the best version of each.

Here are the specs according to the site.

Final Destination

US Release New Line Cinema

25GB Disc
English: Dolby TrueHD 5.1
English: Dolby Digital 5.1 (640 kbps)

DE Release Studio Canal

50GB Disc
English: DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1

Final Destination 2

US Release New Line Cinema

50GB Disc
English: Dolby TrueHD 5.1

DE Release Warner Bros.

25GB Disc
English: DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1

Final Destination 3

US Release New Line Cinema

50GB Disc
English: Dolby TrueHD 5.1

DE Release Warner Bros.

25GB Disc
English: DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1

The Final Destination

US Release New Line Cinema

?GB Disc
English: DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1

DE Release Warner Bros.

50GB Disc
English: DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1

[HD Goofnut]

Stay away from the FR release of Lord of War. http://www.caps-a-holic.com/hd_vergl...ma=&lossless=1 I have added the DNR notation to the entry.

[hedliniv]

Walk the Line definately should be on this list as the UK version is a 2 Disk edition and has the extended cut - the second disk has a song jukebox (with HD audio) with all the full musical numbers!!
The US version is a 1 disk with theatrical cut.

Originally Posted by amoergosum

It's not a director's cut. It's an extended cut.

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by hedliniv

Walk the Line definately should be on this list as the UK version is a 2 Disk edition and has the extended cut - the second disk has a song jukebox (with HD audio) with all the full musical numbers!!
The US version is a 1 disk with theatrical cut.

I have added it.

[Ill_Be_Back]

Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

Stay away from the FR release of Lord of War. http://www.caps-a-holic.com/hd_vergl...ma=&lossless=1 I have added the DNR notation to the entry.

That is very bad...

[wesslan]

Pan's Labyrinth (update)
UK - VC-1 29,45 Mbps 1.78:1 open matte, Spanish DD 5.1 640 kbps
UK new - VC-1 29,47 Mbps 1.78:1 open matte, Spanish DTS-HD MA 5.1 1812 kbps 16-bit Best PQ
US/TW - VC-1 15,77 Mbps 1.85:1, Heavy DNR, Spanish DTS-HD MA 7.1 5256 kbps 24-bit Best AQ
SE/NO - AVC 31,93 Mbps 1.85:1, Spanish DTS-HD MA 5.1 4237 kbps 24-bit, no eng subs, Audio pitch problems
DE - AVC 29,55 Mbps 1.85:1, Spanish LPCM 4608 kbps 16-bit, no eng subs, BD50
ES - AVC 1.85:1, DTS-HD MA 7.1 24-bit, BD50 Best AQ

Comparison
UK http://www.imagebam.com/image/8fe015245792405
Nordic http://www.imagebam.com/image/d42e4c245792179

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by wesslan

Pan's Labyrinth (update)
UK - VC-1 29,45 Mbps 1.78:1 open matte, Spanish DD 5.1 640 kbps
UK new - VC-1 29,47 Mbps 1.78:1 open matte, Spanish DTS-HD MA 5.1 1812 kbps 16-bit Best PQ
US/TW - VC-1 15,77 Mbps 1.85:1, Heavy DNR, Spanish DTS-HD MA 7.1 5256 kbps 24-bit Best AQ
SE/NO - AVC 31,93 Mbps 1.85:1, Spanish DTS-HD MA 5.1 4237 kbps 24-bit, no eng subs, Audio pitch problems
DE - AVC 29,55 Mbps 1.85:1, Spanish LPCM 4608 kbps 16-bit, no eng subs, BD50
ES - AVC 1.85:1, DTS-HD MA 7.1 24-bit, BD50 Best AQ

Comparison
UK http://www.imagebam.com/image/8fe015245792405
Nordic http://www.imagebam.com/image/d42e4c245792179

Yeah, the UK definitely takes the cake for PQ.

[wesslan]

Pandorum
UK - AVC 28,9 Mbps, Dolby TrueHD 5.1 24-bit, BD50
FR - AVC 27,8 Mbps, DTS-HD MA 5.1 16-bit, BD50 Best PQ
US - AVC 29,82 Mbps, Dolby TrueHD 5.1 3771 kbps 24-bit, BD50, exclusive extras (Region A)
DE - AVC 24fps, DTS-HD HR 6.1 2046 kbps 24-bit, BD50, most extras, no eng subs
SE - AVC 24fps, DTS-HD MA 7.1, less extras, no eng subs

Comparison. It's close but still a little better PQ and should make a difference for those with big screens
UK/US http://www.imagebam.com/image/154dfb246091804
FR http://www.imagebam.com/image/ef4e60246091002
UK/US http://www.imagebam.com/image/fec2f5246091968
FR http://www.imagebam.com/image/736f23246091276

[Torrente]

I'm pretty sure the best PQ for Pan's Labyrinth would be the french release, as the director worked with Wild Side on it!
Too bad it doesn't appear in the list...

[wesslan]

Originally Posted by Torrente

I'm pretty sure the best PQ for Pan's Labyrinth would be the french release, as the director worked with Wild Side on it!
Too bad it doesn't appear in the list...

I'm not so sure. We are above 30+ Mbps already with no dnr/filtering what so ever so don't see how the PQ could get better. But it is indeed interesting argument and I would like to see the FR disc to see what they did with it.