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Old 07-31-2013, 11:16 PM   #4001
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Has anyone added the 2008 Optimum release of Terminator 2: Judgement Day to the list? It's currently the best home video transfer of the film to date and it looks much better than the Skynet Edition.

Both transfers are sourced from the same HD master but the Skynet Edition is heavily DNR'ed whilst the Optimum release isn't DNR'ed.

I believe the Optimum release looks identical to the Japanese Premium Edition.
It's in the list.
 
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Sleepy Hollow UK disc is supposed to be an MPEG-4 AVC code with DTS-HD Master Audio, so for the price, it's the best PQ/AQ edition. It's just Region B locked so people need to have a region free player. It's currently not on the list and should be added.
 
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Sleepy Hollow UK disc is supposed to be an MPEG-4 AVC code with DTS-HD Master Audio, so for the price, it's the best PQ/AQ edition. It's just Region B locked so people need to have a region free player. It's currently not on the list and should be added.
I second that one, I have it and it is good.
 
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Sleepy Hollow UK disc is supposed to be an MPEG-4 AVC code with DTS-HD Master Audio, so for the price, it's the best PQ/AQ edition. It's just Region B locked so people need to have a region free player. It's currently not on the list and should be added.
I added it. Unfortunately, it has no extras and is region B locked.
 
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Also did a comparison US and DK Meet the Parents, DK wins in best PQ. Again, Universal's release is just plain awful being very dark, DNR'ed to death and no having no grain at all, but the Danish Paramount release has so much nicer color, no DNR and a nice grain structure.

Haven't compared audio yet.
Interesting. Do you think it's just the Danish Paramount, or all Paramount releases (like the UK)?
 
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From the list

Alien vs. Predator
US - MPEG-2 27410 kbps, DTS-HD MA 5.1 24-bit, BD50 (Region A locked)
FR - MPEG-2 27125 kbps, DTS-HD MA 5.1 4165 kbps 24-bit, BD50
HK - AVC 32102 kbps, DTS-HD MA 5.1 4213 kbps 24-bit, BD50
Great!!! Thanks Wesslan
 
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Alien vs. Predator
US - MPEG-2 27410 kbps, DTS-HD MA 5.1 24-bit, BD50 (Region A locked)
FR - MPEG-2 27125 kbps, DTS-HD MA 5.1 4165 kbps 24-bit, BD50
HK - AVC 32102 kbps, DTS-HD MA 5.1 4213 kbps 24-bit, BD50
So, you didn't bold the HK version - do you not think it's better or has no-one actually laid eyes on it yet?
 
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From the list

Alien vs. Predator
US - MPEG-2 27410 kbps, DTS-HD MA 5.1 24-bit, BD50 (Region A locked)
FR - MPEG-2 27125 kbps, DTS-HD MA 5.1 4165 kbps 24-bit, BD50
HK - AVC 32102 kbps, DTS-HD MA 5.1 4213 kbps 24-bit, BD50
Oh I see, thanks for the info.

I've just checked the U.K. release on the database on this website as I've got that release and it's MPEG-2 as well.
 
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Anyone knows what's the best version of The Bone Collector to get? UK or US?
Thanks.
 
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I'm sorry I don't know I only have the US and the french release.
Torrente, is the US release of Black Book OAR?
Also, is there a French release as well? A French release is not listed on this site (maybe it's not in the database).

Has anyone info on the UK release (OAR?)?
 
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What the hell is wrong with companys these days

Live Free or Die Hard
DE Theatrical Cut (from Fox) MPEG-4 AVC Video 26971 kbps
DE Recut Legacy Collection (also Fox) MPEG-4 AVC Video 19914 kbps

Although new one does look a little sharper but maybe a little more compressed http://caps-a-holic.com/hd_vergleich...ss=1#vergleich

Lazy bastards, both disc is just above 30gb so why not go ahead and do higher bitrate when you have the space?
 
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Torrente, is the US release of Black Book OAR?
Also, is there a French release as well? A French release is not listed on this site (maybe it's not in the database).

Has anyone info on the UK release (OAR?)?
Yes it exists. I have it. It's hard to find in France as it was an exclusive release through a deal between Pathé and a particular mall called "Carrefour" (I believe this brand also exists in several european country as well).
Price was 8€ and all the BDs from this batch were available in a very ugly slim cardboard digipack: http://www.blurayenfrancais.fr/viewtopic.php?id=2853
It is open mate 1.78.

The US release from Sony is OAR with a very good presentation.
 
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What the hell is wrong with companys these days

Live Free or Die Hard
DE Theatrical Cut (from Fox) MPEG-4 AVC Video 26971 kbps
DE Recut Legacy Collection (also Fox) MPEG-4 AVC Video 19914 kbps

Although new one does look a little sharper but maybe a little more compressed http://caps-a-holic.com/hd_vergleich...ss=1#vergleich

Lazy bastards, both disc is just above 30gb so why not go ahead and do higher bitrate when you have the space?
Is it strictly the Unrated cut or branched?

How many dub tracks? They impact video bandwidth.
 
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Is it strictly the Unrated cut or branched?

How many dub tracks? They impact video bandwidth.
Strictly the unrated on the new disc.

Many more dub tracks on new disc but as I said, only around 30gb used on both so those tracks doesn't matter. There are still at least 17gb unused space.
 
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Strictly the unrated on the new disc.

Many more dub tracks on new disc but as I said, only around 30gb used on both so those tracks doesn't matter. There are still at least 17gb unused space.
Space isn't everything. The BD stream isn't supposed to go above 48Mbps. If you have 20Mbps of audio streams that doesn't leave much room for the video.
 
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What the hell is wrong with companys these days

Live Free or Die Hard
DE Theatrical Cut (from Fox) MPEG-4 AVC Video 26971 kbps
DE Recut Legacy Collection (also Fox) MPEG-4 AVC Video 19914 kbps

Although new one does look a little sharper but maybe a little more compressed http://caps-a-holic.com/hd_vergleich...ss=1#vergleich

Lazy bastards, both disc is just above 30gb so why not go ahead and do higher bitrate when you have the space?
Could you post a BRDC link to this "Recut Legacy Collection" - or is it not listed on the site yet?

This one
https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Live-...Blu-ray/66323/
says it only has the uncut version on the DVD.

This one
https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Die-H...Blu-ray/61373/
is the 4-film collection which says it has the same discs as the first one. Neither says "Legacy Collection".

Amazon has a new (?) set with all 5 films called "The Legacy Collection"
http://www.amazon.com/Die-Hard-Colle...acy+collection
but all of the reviewers swear that it's not the uncut version, only the same old, same old - except that the video quality sucks on all the films.
 
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Space isn't everything. The BD stream isn't supposed to go above 48Mbps. If you have 20Mbps of audio streams that doesn't leave much room for the video.
Good point Peter.

For example, if one takes a look at this BDinfo scan you can see that the total bitrate is 41.68Mbps (Beverly Hills Cop II). If you continue down to 'stream diagnostics' you can see a break down of what that includes:

Code:
                                                                                                                Total   Video                                             
Title                                                           Codec   Length  Movie Size      Disc Size       Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track                          Secondary Audio Track
-----                                                           ------  ------- --------------  --------------  ------- ------- ------------------                        ---------------------
00051.MPLS                                                      AVC     1:42:58 32,849,934,336  33,439,617,864  42.54   34.49   DTS-HD Master 5.1 3871Kbps (48kHz/24-bit)
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DISC INFO:

Disc Title:     BEVERLY_HILLS_COP_II
Disc Size:      33,439,617,864 bytes
Protection:     AACS
BD-Java:        Yes
BDInfo:         0.5.8

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:                   00051.MPLS
Length:                 1:42:58.297 (h:m:s.ms)
Size:                   32,849,934,336 bytes
Total Bitrate:          42.54 Mbps

VIDEO:

Codec                   Bitrate             Description     
-----                   -------             -----------     
MPEG-4 AVC Video        34493 kbps          1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
DTS-HD Master Audio             English         3871 kbps       5.1 / 48 kHz / 3871 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit)
Dolby Digital Audio             French          224 kbps        2.0 / 48 kHz / 224 kbps / DN -4dB / Dolby Surround
Dolby Digital Audio             Spanish         224 kbps        2.0 / 48 kHz / 224 kbps / DN -4dB / Dolby Surround
Dolby Digital Audio             German          224 kbps        2.0 / 48 kHz / 224 kbps / DN -4dB / Dolby Surround
Dolby Digital Audio             Italian         224 kbps        2.0 / 48 kHz / 224 kbps / DN -4dB / Dolby Surround
Dolby Digital Audio             Spanish         224 kbps        2.0 / 48 kHz / 224 kbps / DN -4dB / Dolby Surround
Dolby Digital Audio             Portuguese      224 kbps        2.0 / 48 kHz / 224 kbps / DN -4dB / Dolby Surround

SUBTITLES:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Presentation Graphics           English         61.643 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           English         65.646 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Danish          45.124 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Spanish         47.570 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           German          55.440 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           French          0.173 kbps                      
Presentation Graphics           Spanish         0.188 kbps                      
Presentation Graphics           French          49.724 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Dutch           48.266 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Norwegian       42.459 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Finnish         44.892 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Swedish         44.975 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           German          0.137 kbps                      
Presentation Graphics           Italian         47.258 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Spanish         50.198 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Italian         0.190 kbps                      
Presentation Graphics           Portuguese      46.948 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Japanese        25.071 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Spanish         0.500 kbps                      
Presentation Graphics           Portuguese      0.145 kbps                      

FILES:

Name            Time In         Length          Size            Total Bitrate   
----            -------         ------          ----            -------------   
00051.M2TS      0:00:00.000     1:42:58.297     32,849,934,336  42,536          

CHAPTERS:

Number          Time In         Length          Avg Video Rate  Max 1-Sec Rate  Max 1-Sec Time  Max 5-Sec Rate  Max 5-Sec Time  Max 10Sec Rate  Max 10Sec Time  Avg Frame Size  Max Frame Size  Max Frame Time  
------          -------         ------          --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  
1               0:00:00.000     0:02:52.005     35,870 kbps     41,373 kbps     00:00:15.598    37,964 kbps     00:02:42.120    37,849 kbps     00:02:41.035    186,966 bytes   363,376 bytes   00:00:16.975    
2               0:02:52.005     0:06:25.051     33,077 kbps     42,438 kbps     00:02:55.592    37,935 kbps     00:09:12.051    37,875 kbps     00:09:07.046    172,447 bytes   434,941 bytes   00:04:21.386    
3               0:09:17.056     0:05:13.229     34,863 kbps     40,976 kbps     00:14:04.760    37,864 kbps     00:14:19.650    37,771 kbps     00:14:14.979    181,760 bytes   358,122 bytes   00:09:18.891    
4               0:14:30.286     0:07:41.335     36,428 kbps     39,517 kbps     00:19:33.714    38,080 kbps     00:19:28.792    37,844 kbps     00:19:31.378    189,921 bytes   412,919 bytes   00:19:34.715    
5               0:22:11.621     0:07:18.479     35,272 kbps     38,858 kbps     00:24:47.944    37,985 kbps     00:24:43.857    37,780 kbps     00:22:19.796    183,890 bytes   396,537 bytes   00:24:59.331    
6               0:29:30.101     0:16:55.639     34,878 kbps     39,262 kbps     00:43:16.969    37,934 kbps     00:41:48.297    37,844 kbps     00:46:08.557    181,839 bytes   398,950 bytes   00:31:17.250    
7               0:46:25.741     0:05:59.400     32,340 kbps     40,448 kbps     00:48:48.925    37,946 kbps     00:49:10.656    37,622 kbps     00:49:05.817    168,605 bytes   308,034 bytes   00:50:45.250    
8               0:52:25.142     0:09:40.579     34,539 kbps     39,138 kbps     01:01:47.662    38,037 kbps     01:01:43.616    37,883 kbps     01:01:38.653    180,070 bytes   472,115 bytes   01:00:40.553    
9               1:02:05.722     0:13:31.644     36,542 kbps     42,585 kbps     01:03:02.028    38,751 kbps     01:02:58.024    37,916 kbps     01:11:42.798    190,511 bytes   424,641 bytes   01:09:12.356    
10              1:15:37.366     0:08:08.154     36,915 kbps     39,705 kbps     01:20:11.681    38,262 kbps     01:20:07.636    37,849 kbps     01:23:13.321    192,457 bytes   379,791 bytes   01:20:15.477    
11              1:23:45.520     0:12:50.269     33,817 kbps     42,095 kbps     01:31:51.547    38,199 kbps     01:31:30.193    37,817 kbps     01:25:02.180    176,307 bytes   362,817 bytes   01:23:46.521    
12              1:36:35.790     0:02:17.554     34,835 kbps     51,006 kbps     01:38:50.925    37,906 kbps     01:37:32.054    37,075 kbps     01:37:29.385    181,612 bytes   539,595 bytes   01:38:51.550    
13              1:38:53.344     0:04:04.953     22,012 kbps     51,852 kbps     01:42:56.003    37,558 kbps     01:42:51.999    34,342 kbps     01:40:24.643    114,779 bytes   522,052 bytes   01:42:56.628    

STREAM DIAGNOSTICS:

File            PID             Type            Codec           Language                Seconds                 Bitrate                 Bytes           Packets         
----            ---             ----            -----           --------                --------------          --------------          -------------   -----           
00051.M2TS      4113 (0x1011)   0x1B            AVC                                     6178.130                34,494                  26,638,481,903  144,860,659     
00051.M2TS      4352 (0x1100)   0x86            DTS-HD MA       eng (English)           6178.130                3,871                   2,989,294,148   17,213,330      
00051.M2TS      4353 (0x1101)   0x81            AC3             fra (French)            6178.130                224                     172,992,512     965,360         
00051.M2TS      4354 (0x1102)   0x81            AC3             spa (Spanish)           6178.130                224                     172,992,512     965,360         
00051.M2TS      4355 (0x1103)   0x81            AC3             deu (German)            6178.130                224                     172,992,512     965,360         
00051.M2TS      4356 (0x1104)   0x81            AC3             ita (Italian)           6178.130                224                     172,992,512     965,360         
00051.M2TS      4357 (0x1105)   0x81            AC3             spa (Spanish)           6178.130                224                     172,992,512     965,360         
00051.M2TS      4358 (0x1106)   0x81            AC3             por (Portuguese)        6178.130                224                     172,992,512     965,360         
00051.M2TS      4608 (0x1200)   0x90            PGS             eng (English)           6178.130                62                      47,606,456      267,601         
00051.M2TS      4609 (0x1201)   0x90            PGS             eng (English)           6178.130                66                      50,697,421      285,243         
00051.M2TS      4610 (0x1202)   0x90            PGS             dan (Danish)            6178.130                45                      34,848,507      197,264         
00051.M2TS      4611 (0x1203)   0x90            PGS             spa (Spanish)           6178.130                48                      36,737,609      207,745         
00051.M2TS      4612 (0x1204)   0x90            PGS             deu (German)            6178.130                55                      42,815,781      240,831         
00051.M2TS      4613 (0x1205)   0x90            PGS             fra (French)            6178.130                0                       133,867         755             
00051.M2TS      4614 (0x1206)   0x90            PGS             spa (Spanish)           6178.130                0                       145,075         816             
00051.M2TS      4615 (0x1207)   0x90            PGS             fra (French)            6178.130                50                      38,401,207      216,647         
00051.M2TS      4616 (0x1208)   0x90            PGS             nld (Dutch)             6178.130                48                      37,274,901      209,902         
00051.M2TS      4617 (0x1209)   0x90            PGS             nor (Norwegian)         6178.130                42                      32,790,465      186,440         
00051.M2TS      4618 (0x120A)   0x90            PGS             fin (Finnish)           6178.130                45                      34,669,549      196,528         
00051.M2TS      4619 (0x120B)   0x90            PGS             swe (Swedish)           6178.130                45                      34,733,810      195,920         
00051.M2TS      4620 (0x120C)   0x90            PGS             deu (German)            6178.130                0                       106,130         605             
00051.M2TS      4621 (0x120D)   0x90            PGS             ita (Italian)           6178.130                47                      36,496,782      206,409         
00051.M2TS      4622 (0x120E)   0x90            PGS             spa (Spanish)           6178.130                50                      38,767,107      219,515         
00051.M2TS      4623 (0x120F)   0x90            PGS             ita (Italian)           6178.130                0                       146,950         826             
00051.M2TS      4624 (0x1210)   0x90            PGS             por (Portuguese)        6178.130                47                      36,257,530      205,717         
00051.M2TS      4625 (0x1211)   0x90            PGS             jpn (Japanese)          6178.130                25                      19,362,190      112,941         
00051.M2TS      4626 (0x1212)   0x90            PGS             spa (Spanish)           6178.130                1                       386,521         2,183           
00051.M2TS      4627 (0x1213)   0x90            PGS             por (Portuguese)        6178.130                0                       111,631         627
From the caps the recut version is ever so slightly sharper, maybe down to a newer encoder version, thus not needing the higher bitrate, but it defiantly falls below 48Mbps max stream rate.

But why is the runtime shorter on the recut version? Is it missing some end credits or studio logo's?

Also seems to be different framing.

Last edited by Tech-UK; 08-02-2013 at 09:49 AM.
 
Old 08-02-2013, 09:33 AM   #4018
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Could you post a BRDC link to this "Recut Legacy Collection" - or is it not listed on the site yet?

This one
https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Live-...Blu-ray/66323/
says it only has the uncut version on the DVD.

This one
https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Die-H...Blu-ray/61373/
is the 4-film collection which says it has the same discs as the first one. Neither says "Legacy Collection".

Amazon has a new (?) set with all 5 films called "The Legacy Collection"
http://www.amazon.com/Die-Hard-Colle...acy+collection
but all of the reviewers swear that it's not the uncut version, only the same old, same old - except that the video quality sucks on all the films.
http://www.caps-a-holic.com/hd_vergl...D=1827#auswahl
 
Old 08-02-2013, 12:33 PM   #4019
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And this uncut version seems to be out in Germany and Hong Kong so far. Hoping for a separate release so I can exchange my old disc.
 
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Thanks, Pieter, but you know me and screen-caps - FAIL! Some look better one way, some the other - and they don't seem to be the best shots to judge by, so ...

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Originally Posted by wesslan View Post
And this uncut version seems to be out in Germany and Hong Kong so far. Hoping for a separate release so I can exchange my old disc.
Again, not my opinion - I've never seen the "Legacy" versions - but all of the reviewers on Amazon swear that "Live Free" is not the uncut version and that the video quality sucks (comparatively) on all of the films.
 
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