HDR Discussion Thread

[Ray Jackson]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

Some 4K Blu-ray players will do a better job @ converting 4K UHD to standard HD, like 4K Panasonic players for instance.

* 720p TVs you can't buy anymore today; even 1080p TVs are very rare, and 3D TVs are all but gone. TV grocery shopping stores carry 4K HDR TVs today (95%), and some cost less than a 1080p Oppo Blu-ray player, and 4K too.

If stimulus money is coming use some of it for a new 4K HDR TV to match your 4K HDR Blu-ray player. That would be a sweet upgrade to your 720p display. And go HDR size as big as you can afford. Investing in home entertainment in the year 2021 is a better and safer investment than say a cruise ship romance, or a plane ticket to a month vacation in France, or Italy, or Germany, or UK, or ...

Have a safe holiday time, @ home watching the best 2020 HDR 4K Blu-ray discs ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mD2t...ature=youtu.be

So there should be no difference at all between the PQ on a HDX Blu-Ray played on a regular HD player and a 4K disc on a 4k player?...positive or negative?

I should also mention that I have a 32 inch tv in my bedroom, where I watch 95% of my movies. I have sensitive eyes and a bigger screen is too much for them, given the size of the room.

Is 4K still a significant improvement on a relatively smaller tv?

[LordoftheRings]

Ray, I forgot; you can add more brightness and contrast to your 720p TV settings for the input using your 4K player. And in the player use the setting that is the brightest for HDR>SDR conversion.
That way it will appear less dark and washed out.

But 4K players were made for 4K HDR TVs. With your 720p display the regular 1080p Blu-ray disc will look better than the 4K one.

[LordoftheRings]

Originally Posted by Robert Zohn

The video you posted two up from this one was shot in my store by Shane of SpareChange and Brian of Whisper Status74.

The video is an interviewed/evaluation narrated by our calibrator, John and myself.

I watched most of it; I enjoyed it. You guys make a good team.

[LordoftheRings]

Originally Posted by PaulGo

I watched Wonder Woman 1984 (IMAX 4K) last night on my Sony TV (HDR10) from HBO Max. I thought the picture quality and sound quality was very good. Gal Gadot was great as usual. Overall I enjoyed the movie, but it need a few more action sequences.

How long it has been released? I didn't know that; I've got to do something to remedy that immediately. Good to hear.

[Waboman]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

when the time comes, give us a sober (that means non-alcoholic ingestion while watching it) assessment of this movie - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...d#post18437710

doing well so far - https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/news_of_the_world

I don't click the cryptic links. Say it in the post.

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Wabs, I red your whimsical reply to me on the ‘Everyone critiques Vincent Teoh Thread’, so, for the record, I pay off my credit card charges every month, carrying over no owed balance . Plus, you should see my monthly cc statement back in the day which included the 005 which was the first commercially available consumer display to use LED backlighting -

of which I eventually received delivery after some production delays -

for, on a cost/inch basis, it was way more expensive than the 006, considering it be a 46 incher and cost $14,999.99 and that didn’t include the wall mount (SUXWQ005) for another $799.99

Lol. I'm sure that 005 was paid in cash by the loose change in your couch.

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

where's Wabo?, chat rooom?

I ask that every morning.

[Ray Jackson]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

Ray, I forgot; you can add more brightness and contrast to your 720p TV settings for the input using your 4K player. And in the player use the setting that is the brightest for HDR>SDR conversion.
That way it will appear less dark and washed out.

But 4K players were made for 4K HDR TVs. With your 720p display the regular 1080p Blu-ray disc will look better than the 4K one.

Great information...thank you.

Do you have any thoughts on this?

“I should also mention that I have a 32 inch tv in my bedroom, where I watch 95% of my movies. I have sensitive eyes and a bigger screen is too much for them, given the size of the room.

Is 4K still a significant improvement on a relatively small tv?”

[LordoftheRings]

Originally Posted by Ray Jackson

So there should be no difference at all between the PQ on a HDX Blu-Ray played on a regular HD player and a 4K disc on a 4k player?...positive or negative?

I have zero experience with HDX; so I can't 'pronounce' ...

I should also mention that I have a 32 inch tv in my bedroom, where I watch 95% of my movies. I have sensitive eyes and a bigger screen is too much for them, given the size of the room.

I bet today a 32" 4K HDR UHDTV you can buy for roughly what your 4K Blu-ray player cost you.

Is 4K still a significant improvement on a relatively smaller tv?

I don't have experience but from the experts, bigger is better.
* About a 42" HDR TV for you in 2021? Start saving now; it's the perfect time.
Just make sure you have enough for food and housing. Gas? The less you use the better the planet and its people on it.

[castor]

Originally Posted by Ray Jackson

“I should also mention that I have a 32 inch tv in my bedroom, where I watch 95% of my movies. I have sensitive eyes and a bigger screen is too much for them, given the size of the room.

Is 4K still a significant improvement on a relatively small tv?”

I think most experts say you need at least a 50" to see the benefits of 4K, but I have a Sony 43" XBR43X800H that looks amazingly good to me and I'm very happy with it.

[LordoftheRings]

Here's another list of ten best 2020 HDR flicks on 4K Blu ... Picture & Sound

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fd6P...ature=youtu.be

* My personal opinion: If a film doesn't massage my intellectuel emotions and romantic heart, it doesn't matter how fabulous the sound and picture...with scores of 100.
If the film is great, then yes I appreciate the technical HDR aspect and music composition that went through. ...Visual and sound effects. That's all.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Waboman

I don't click the cryptic links. Say it in the post.

Not cryptic and a simple click to NotW exclusive BTS pics by the camera crew -> https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...d#post18437710
Cripes you’re a lazy one.

Anyway, what about Nobody as in the red band trailer posted on the last page? Wabs, what’s your pleasure - blackjack, switchblade, hand guns?....flamethrowers like cuz Eddie? Is that your cup of tea? I’m trying to get a handle as to what movie fare you enjoy between sips of cognac other than with zombie alien sharks and ninjas with laser beams. Nobody will be in HDR, if you got a hankering for that. Bob shares his feelings as above .

Originally Posted by Waboman

Lol. I'm sure that 005 was paid in cash by the loose change in your couch.

I’m afraid to look under the cushions on any of our sectionals as I don’t think the maids clean under them. I hide all my loose change in a camouflaged hole on the bank out back under that tree -> https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...k#post18192410. Come to think of it, I think Amir may have also bought an 005 back in the day. Stacey would know.

[Penton-Man]

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...s#post18465824
^ -> For completeness I should mention there is at least one post shop (and likely more) that goes balls out and uses the 55” Flanders Scientific OLED monitor as a client display as it has an HDR mode for PQ and HLG. These monitors go for around $10-11,000. That my friends, is loose change under Wabs couch cushions.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mD2t...ature=youtu.be

What’s with all the Brits and their sexual innuendos recently? Sheesh, first it was Vincent and now it’s the reviewer above. Is this a side effect of the pandemic or peoples’ natural state of mind across the pond?

[Penton-Man]

DDH, are they hacking on you over there in the VT chat room? Ne t'inquiète pas. Here, copy this to all your friends in France not yet introduced to the topic -

Replay du webinar 'Pourquoi produire en HDR Dolby Vision ?' - YouTube

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Robert Zohn

The video you posted two up from this one was shot in my store by Shane of SpareChange and Brian of Whisper Status74.
The video is an interviewed/evaluation narrated by our calibrator, John and myself.

I think I remember John. Couple years back, 2018?, wasn’t he the one out of your retail store that in addition to calibration duties also offered good diverse public service to videophiles wrt the topic of - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...p#post16745561
I think you’ve got a keeper there Robert.

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

What’s with all the Brits and their sexual innuendos recently? Sheesh, first it was Vincent and now it’s the reviewer above. Is this a side effect of the pandemic or peoples’ natural state of mind across the pond?

Perhaps lack of soccer and people kicking balls?

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

What’s with all the Brits and their sexual innuendos recently? Sheesh, first it was Vincent and now it’s the reviewer above. Is this a side effect of the pandemic or peoples’ natural state of mind across the pond?

You're talking about the country that brought the world the Carry On films. There's no mystery here, we've always loved a good double entendre. Or even a bad one.

[I DO BLU]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

What’s with all the Brits and their sexual innuendos recently? Sheesh, first it was Vincent and now it’s the reviewer above. Is this a side effect of the pandemic or peoples’ natural state of mind across the pond?

Apparently you haven't seen any benny hill shows from a long time ago

[LordoftheRings]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

What’s with all the Brits and their sexual innuendos recently? Sheesh, first it was Vincent and now it’s the reviewer above. Is this a side effect of the pandemic or peoples’ natural state of mind across the pond?

Because you have a good sense of humor ... HDR trailer (F9)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRRu...ature=youtu.be

[LordoftheRings]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

DDH, are they hacking on you over there in the VT chat room? Ne t'inquiète pas. Here, copy this to all your friends in France not yet introduced to the topic -

Replay du webinar 'Pourquoi produire en HDR Dolby Vision ?' - YouTube

And your French is impeccable.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

Perhaps lack of soccer and people kicking balls?

Maybe not regular Joe’s in local communities in club leagues and such due to pandemic lockdowns, but they are playing at the Pro level in the EPL, even today and on NBCSN. As to the former, the amateurs/fans over there must have virtual stuff like here in the states. Just yesterday a guy won $50,000 in this year’s free to enter ‘Pick ‘Em’ - https://www.nbcsports.com/video/prem...ck-em-how-play with new contests offered up frequently.

Wabs, was that you being the big jackpot winner on Sunday sealing it with that Wolves v. Spur’s 1-1 prediction? A hidden talent I’m unaware of ? A palliative diversion from following Vikings football?