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kingofgrills · 04-14-2008, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by boss

Well, I'm not a videophile, but I want to get the best out of my new HD tv.

Is there a noticeable difference for a regular person between if it was calibrated with the Disney and DVE?

I'm debating on spending the $25 bucks (shipping included) to order the DVE from Amazon.

The DVE Blu-ray disc also has useful audio setup routines that are more comprehensive than the THX Optimizer audio tests (if you're familiar with those). I think it's worth $25 to get the DVE version, especially if you've spent $$$$ on your setup.

Zen Slug · 04-15-2008, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by boss

Well, I'm not a videophile, but I want to get the best out of my new HD tv.

Is there a noticeable difference for a regular person between if it was calibrated with the Disney and DVE?

I'm debating on spending the $25 bucks (shipping included) to order the DVE from Amazon.

they have the old version of the digital video essentials calibration disc for rent through netflix. you don't get the color filters for fine-tuning the color settings but for ballpark adjustments it works just fine.

There's also some basic test patterns on spider 3 and many other bd titles which you can access by entering a special code on the remote when the disc is in the player.

toon12 · 04-17-2008, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Zen Slug

they have the old version of the digital video essentials calibration disc for rent through netflix. you don't get the color filters for fine-tuning the color settings but for ballpark adjustments it works just fine.

There's also some basic test patterns on spider 3 and many other bd titles which you can access by entering a special code on the remote when the disc is in the player.

of course, you can always treat yourself and get it professionally calibrated!

Zen Slug · 04-18-2008, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by boss

It worked....however, not it seems dark. I tried brightening it, but it makes the picture sort of wash out.

you should have a black level control (usually called "brightness") and a separate white level control (usually called "picture"). i recommend getting the dve disc for a good setup guide and also greater understanding of how these controls work together on different types of monitors. on most monitors these controls work independently, meaning that adjustments to the "picture" settings should not change the black levels. however, some lower-end sets have a different type of circuitry where these two controls are not independent. the dve disc mentions that this type of set is much harder to calibrate.

but for a quick and dirty setup you can just follow these instructions:

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Originally Posted by GLOW @ Hi Def Forum

If you own a Sony Blu-ray disc, there is a "hidden" option for calibration screens. Press 7-6-6-9-Enter to access these. Most of you probably already knew this but some of you probably don't understand what the screens mean. Here are step-by-step instructions from a Sony employee:

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Originally Posted by paidgeek

There are a few adjustment where the included test patterns can be particulary useful for getting the best possible picture. Most of our discs have at least 4 test patterns included, SMPTE bars, monoscope, ramp and cross hatch. The first adjustment I usually concern myself with is the black level or "brightness". Bring up the colorbar signal and pause your player. Turn up your monitor "brightness" and confirm that all 3 pluge chips are visible in the lower right hand corner of the screen. If all three can be seen, then you have confirmed that your player and monitor are passing signals "below black". Next, adjust the brightness control down until the right chip is just visible. You now have an optimum black level setting. Put the player back into play mode and chapter skip to the next pattern, the monoscope and pause once again. Ideally, you should see a complete image with 16:9 shown at the corners and no truncating of the triangles. If you don't see the full image, check if you monitor supports "full pixel", "dot by dot" or some other description of a mode that allows a 1:1 relationship between the incoming signal and the pixels on your display. Some displays do not allow the disabling of "overscan" so you will not be able to make this adjustment. The monoscope is also useful for checking over sharpening, or filtering of the image. Ideally the round patterns comprised of wedges should be clear, sharp with no asymetrical gray bars or ovals. Distortions in the pattern usually indicate that a scaler is being used in the display. Also check that the squares comprised of 2x2 pixel black squares are distinct. If sharpening is used, the black or white portions of these squares is often exaggerated. And finally can you read the text on the bottom of the pattern for the company that created it? If you can, you are likely getting a full 1920 x 1080 image.

Of course there are many other important settings for Contrast and color, but these settings need to be adjusted according to your average room light. I recommend turning off all of the processing that is available in todays displays such as Noise reduction, DRC (Sony) or whatever a given CE company happens to be calling their image enhancement feature. If you have a good blu-ray disc, "Black Hawk Down" for example, you should be able to see the film grain from the original master faithfully reproduced. If it looks mottled or irregular, there is a good chance your display is using noise reduction or other processing and hurting, rather than helping the picture quality.

boss · 04-20-2008, 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Zen Slug

you should have a black level control (usually called "brightness") and a separate white level control (usually called "picture"). i recommend getting the dve disc for a good setup guide and also greater understanding of how these controls work together on different types of monitors. on most monitors these controls work independently, meaning that adjustments to the "picture" settings should not change the black levels. however, some lower-end sets have a different type of circuitry where these two controls are not independent. the dve disc mentions that this type of set is much harder to calibrate.

but for a quick and dirty setup you can just follow these instructions:

Thanks, I'll try this out.

boss · 04-27-2008, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zen Slug

you should have a black level control (usually called "brightness") and a separate white level control (usually called "picture"). i recommend getting the dve disc for a good setup guide and also greater understanding of how these controls work together on different types of monitors. on most monitors these controls work independently, meaning that adjustments to the "picture" settings should not change the black levels. however, some lower-end sets have a different type of circuitry where these two controls are not independent. the dve disc mentions that this type of set is much harder to calibrate.

but for a quick and dirty setup you can just follow these instructions:

I tried this, but wasn't able to get it to work.

Are you supposed to do this when the movie is playing or at the title screen or something?

I tried the Disney movie, "Invincible." Maybe that movie doesn't have this feature.

WriteSimply · 04-27-2008, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by boss

I tried this, but wasn't able to get it to work.

Are you supposed to do this when the movie is playing or at the title screen or something?

I tried the Disney movie, "Invincible." Maybe that movie doesn't have this feature.

If you mean 7669, IT ONLY WORKS WITH SPHE BDs. Put in any Sony Pictures Home Entertainment discs, wait till the main menu comes on and then key in 7669.

There are no onscreen instructions so you must follow paidgeek's instructions carefully. Even then, it may not be clear to you. The calibration menus on Ratatouille are better and they provide a PDF explaining what each menu does in the process.

fuad

boss · 04-27-2008, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by WriteSimply

If you mean 7669, IT ONLY WORKS WITH SPHE BDs. Put in any Sony Pictures Home Entertainment discs, wait till the main menu comes on and then key in 7669.

There are no onscreen instructions so you must follow paidgeek's instructions carefully. Even then, it may not be clear to you. The calibration menus on Ratatouille are better and they provide a PDF explaining what each menu does in the process.

fuad

What's SPHE?

Zen Slug · 04-27-2008, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Blu Jacket

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Originally Posted by Zen Slug

does anybody else notice sudden black level shifts during dark scenes and end credit rolls? i notice it anytime there's a white credit roll against a black background and also during dark scenes in films (e.g. during the train robbery in "the assassination of jesse james...") basically the blacks will look one way and then suddenly jump to a darker or lighter setting. it seems like the ps3 or my tv is doing black level correction but i have all that automated signal correction and noise reduction crap turned off. maybe there's some hidden "feature" in the ps3 menus that i missed?

I've noticed this on several of my Blu-rays but I only see it during the credits, at which point I don't really care.

okay, finally figured out my wandering black level problem and thought i would post an update here even though the problem turned out to be a fault of my sony lcd firmware and not the ps3.

the shifts in black levels observed during dark scenes and during end credits are the result of a "feature" called auto-dimming. sony implemented this "feature" in recent versions of the bravia firmware as a patch to hide the uneven backlight clouding that users were complaining about. auto dimming can be disabled by turning on the "game/text mode" for those who prefer a little cloudiness to sudden black level shifts.

MORE INFO

[/Hijack Off]

Zen Slug · 04-27-2008, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by boss

What's Sony Pictures Home Entertainment?

spiderman 3, for example

boss · 04-27-2008, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Zen Slug

spiderman 3, for example

Does it have to be Sony Pictures Home Entertainment (SPHE) and Disney?

Does it say SPHE on the Blu-Ray box?

I have: I am Legend, Hitman, Invincible, 50 First Dates, and Night at the Museum on Blu-Ray. Will any of these work? I know Invincible is Disney.

ixlegitballinxl · 04-27-2008, 11:47 PM

spiderman 3...ewwwwwwwwwww

Cinemaddict · 04-28-2008, 12:28 AM

I'm still having problems with the audio being just a little bit out of sync with the video. I was watching Pirates, and it's pretty obvious during the sword fights. The video is a little bit ahead of the audio.

My PS3 is hooked up to the HDTV via an HDMI cable. Any ideas?

boss · 04-28-2008, 01:48 AM

Well, thanks to all of you for your help. I decided to bite the bullet and just ordered the "Digital Video Essentials" Blu-Ray DVD. I bought a $3,000 flatscreen, I might as well make sure that I'm getting my money's worth.

The dvd was $18.95 at Amazon. I'll tell you how it works out.

I guess we get into the same conundrum as fisherman. Buy an expensive rod and reel and then the cheapest fishing line possible. Ironically, the fishing line is the only thing between you and the fish.

WriteSimply · 04-28-2008, 02:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zen Slug

the shifts in black levels observed during dark scenes and during end credits are the result of a "feature" called auto-dimming. sony implemented this "feature" in recent versions of the bravia firmware as a patch to hide the uneven backlight clouding that users were complaining about. auto dimming can be disabled by turning on the "game/text mode" for those who prefer a little cloudiness to sudden black level shifts.

MORE INFO

Nice to know. Thanks for the update.

fuad

WriteSimply · 04-28-2008, 02:46 AM

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Originally Posted by boss

Does it have to be Sony Pictures Home Entertainment (SPHE) and Disney?

The 7669 code works ONLY with SPHE discs. Only selected Disney discs have the calibration menu. The one that I know is Ratatouille.

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Does it say SPHE on the Blu-Ray box?

See the post above.

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I have: I am Legend, Hitman, Invincible, 50 First Dates, and Night at the Museum on Blu-Ray. Will any of these work? I know Invincible is Disney.

The rest are from Warner, Fox and Disney.

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Originally Posted by Cinemaddict

I'm still having problems with the audio being just a little bit out of sync with the video. I was watching Pirates, and it's pretty obvious during the sword fights. The video is a little bit ahead of the audio.

My PS3 is hooked up to the HDTV via an HDMI cable. Any ideas?

See if your TV has anything on the settings concerning HDMI audio sync. You sometimes get this problem with HDMI connections.

fuad

boss · 04-28-2008, 06:53 PM

Always one more question:

I'm sure this does not pertain to this, but I figure you guys probably know.

I have Comcast and when I got my new Comcast HD cable box and new TV, I set the Comcast Universal remote up so that I could control both my TV and Cable box with it.

It works great, accept the volume on the TV goes up and down very slowly. With the remote that came with the TV, it's nice and fast, so I know it works. But when I use the universal Comcast remote, it's slow.

Does anyone know how to fix this?

Acquiesce · 05-09-2008, 01:24 AM

Does the 40GB PS3 have the same features as the 60GB if I were to purchase one right now?

Thanks

WriteSimply · 05-09-2008, 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Acquiesce

Does the 40GB PS3 have the same features as the 60GB if I were to purchase one right now?

No.

The 40GB doesn't have the card reader, has only 2 USB ports, and can't play SACDs.

fuad

un4gvn94538 · 05-10-2008, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Acquiesce

Does the 40GB PS3 have the same features as the 60GB if I were to purchase one right now?

Thanks

forgot to add backwards compatability. the 40gig doesnt play as many of the older games and the 60gig also has wireless capabilities

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04-28-2008, 01:48 AM	#634
boss Member Member since:Mar 2008	Well, thanks to all of you for your help. I decided to bite the bullet and just ordered the "Digital Video Essentials" Blu-Ray DVD. I bought a $3,000 flatscreen, I might as well make sure that I'm getting my money's worth. The dvd was $18.95 at Amazon. I'll tell you how it works out. I guess we get into the same conundrum as fisherman. Buy an expensive rod and reel and then the cheapest fishing line possible. Ironically, the fishing line is the only thing between you and the fish.

04-28-2008, 06:53 PM	#637
boss Member Member since:Mar 2008	Always one more question: I'm sure this does not pertain to this, but I figure you guys probably know. I have Comcast and when I got my new Comcast HD cable box and new TV, I set the Comcast Universal remote up so that I could control both my TV and Cable box with it. It works great, accept the volume on the TV goes up and down very slowly. With the remote that came with the TV, it's nice and fast, so I know it works. But when I use the universal Comcast remote, it's slow. Does anyone know how to fix this?

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