4K Movies Releases

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

If It Ain't Laser, It's LieMAX™

This piece just came across my desk at lunch - http://screencrush.com/star-wars-the...imax-theaters/

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by dvdmike

I just don't like how it looks....

no problem for a re-do of your personal library, as one can easily adjust the HDR-ishness with a new tool….https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHzK...youtu.be&t=44s

Additionally, mike, entering from thee other end, the upcoming release of Premiere Pro will include an Export filter called “SDR Conform”, which enables your originally HDR-graded material to deliver an SDR copy without manually re-grading the footage if you don't have access to a high end color correction system.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

This piece just came across my desk at lunch - http://screencrush.com/star-wars-the...imax-theaters/

Sure, I read that several days ago: https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...0#post11450915

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Sure, I read that several days ago: https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...0#post11450915

It’s difficult for me to find time to venture out of this section of the forum…if I had more time I’d have been in the Prem thread several days ago alerting Arsenal supporters to be wary of poking a bear (ein Bär).

[Penton-Man]

Throwback Thursday post - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...d#post11450690

Workshop, seminars, meetings schedule is now listed for the public-at-large to view ….http://www.camerimage.pl/en/Workshop...-Meetings.html

Interested parties (mike , etc. ) should note it also includes an HDR front to end pipeline workshop (camera to 4K display (the BVM-X300 reference monitor)

[Kris Deering]

Went to Spectre last night. Saw it on a pretty massive 2.1:1 screen projecting from a Barco 4K projector. Overall the image quality was pretty good but I can see some not liking the rather subdued color palette and lean toward yellow in a lot of imagery. Not nearly as exciting visually as Skyfall. Overall I would give the movie a B, good but nothing to write home about. Meanders a lot and felt a bit unfocused in tone.

I realize this was shot in both 35mm and with the new Arri 65. It was VERY easy to tell when one camera was used or the other. The Arri really does an amazing job of looking like a 70mm captured film. So much more depth and detail, but I was honestly surprised how much different the images looked. I would have expected them to use the 65 in longer shots and blend the footage a bit more.

[bailey1987]

I went to Spectre on Tuesday, I nodded off halfway through so I can't really say much other then the bits a saw were a bit boring, also to say it cost nearly £300 million I didn't think there was much to show for it.

[Kris Deering]

Having watched it all I can't even imagine where that budget went to.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by bailey1987

I went to Spectre on Tuesday, I nodded off halfway through so I can't really say much other then the bits a saw were a bit boring, also to say it cost nearly £300 million I didn't think there was much to show for it.

300M dollars, not pounds. (The latter would equate to a $450M budget, not even Sony were estimating it to be that high! )

[Penton-Man]

I’m informed that the two worldwide premiers went well (looked good )….
http://www.digitaltvnews.net/?p=26650

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Kris Deering

Having watched it all I can't even imagine where that budget went to.

things like this, for instance, tend to add up….

SPECTRE vlog features Day of the Dead festival - YouTube

[Penton-Man]

Note to bailey :
Patriot (http://flavorwire.com/546368/the-spy...ngs-folk-songs ) was graded in HDR

[Penton-Man]

Nobody else seen Spectre yet?

Ooookay then, let’s perhaps go back and revisit some other worthy post from yesterday or several days ago to offer further elaboration in order to keep the thread warm.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Richard Paul

At the last HEVC meeting Movielabs took a stab at HLG and the BBC provided an explanation for how HLG can be converted to ACES.

So, to get back to ACES, for the sake of those who don’t understand anything at all about it and Richard’s link to the JCTVC input document perhaps proving confusing or ambiguous….. fundamentally, ACES is scene-referred, which is suitable for visual effects because it’s linear light. On the other hand, ST2084 is displayed-referred, which means the HDR content is fitted to a display.

To convert from ST2084 to ACES involves several transforms, so essentially it’s an indirect connection. But the advantage (with ACES) is that you have more of a display independence, in other words, your (the studio’s) ACES master is not bound to any of the output systems or devices. You have all the dynamic range you could desire in ACES and you may actually end up going down in dynamic range with viewing the content on your HDR tv as compared to that of what ACES is capable of.

Each thing (ACES and HDR) is different and has its own advantages. So, the thinking (esp. amongst color scientists and developers, not marketing folk) is that in the future, HDR and ACES might become complementary, working in tandem if you will. A cutting edge goal/concept being thrown around in peoples’ minds is that it would be beneficial if you could use the HDR workflow as a way to edit ACES (which is not exactly how the current ACES model works). So, in other words, edit the ACES content in HDR space and then covert it back to ACES (losslessly)….but that’s bits-dependent and a topic for yet another day as the bell tolls at 10:00 A.M.

[singhcr]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Nobody else seen Spectre yet?

Ooookay then, let’s perhaps go back and revisit some other worthy post from yesterday or several days ago to offer further elaboration in order to keep the thread warm.

I just got back from it.

My reactions below:

[Show spoiler]The movie overall was very average. There wasn't much of a plot, but rather a series of action sequences. Blofeld wasn't set up very well as an adversary, and the Bond girl wasn't convincing either. I thought the theme was average too. It seems every other Craig film is good. As a Bond fan, I was dissapointed. Bits and pieces were good, especially the opening sequence, but as I watched the film I thought of other films like the Dalton ones that were much better and more engaging. I did enjoy the cinematography, though- lots of wide angle shots.

Do NOT see a movie in 2K IMAX. Mine was sadly a former 15/70 screen. I don't know if they even have their film projector anymore. That was basically like watching a big LCD TV. No fine details even in closeups, colors were muted, and black levels were poor. To be honest, save for some dark scenes I couldn't even see film grain. No way to tell it was ever shot on film for most of it, even during snow sequences. It looked like a 1080p YouTube video during closeups. Quite disappointing.

[Penton-Man]

Real sorry to hear about your experience Sing, especially given your 007 expectations and given you work hard for your money. I wish I could do something.

[Penton-Man]

Follow-up elaboration to budgetary topic, the day following this Nov.6 post to Kris…

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

things like this, for instance, tend to add up….
SPECTRE vlog features Day of the Dead festival - YouTube

on the shark site, Nov.7…..http://www.redsharknews.com/producti...ctical-effects

[singhcr]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Real sorry to hear about your experience Sing, especially given your 007 expectations and given you work hard for your money. I wish I could do something.

Thanks, Penton. I very much appreciate that.

Unfortunately it seems I am somewhat lost around here when it comes to finding a decent place to watch movies when they come out. Sometimes the art house theaters that I frequent for 35mm and 70mm movies show modern films. It's a 30 mile drive, but at least the picture will be bright and detailed (for 2K digital at least) and I'm giving my money to a place that deserves it.

It is just frustrating when there are three major theater chains nearby (Paragon, AMC, and Regal) that all have 4K projectors but have shown 2D films with the 3D lens in place so many times that I stopped going there. Writing corporate HQ and complaining to the managers made no difference.

[AVfile]

Originally Posted by singhcr

I just got back from it.

My reactions below:

[Show spoiler]The movie overall was very average. There wasn't much of a plot, but rather a series of action sequences. Blofeld wasn't set up very well as an adversary, and the Bond girl wasn't convincing either. I thought the theme was average too. It seems every other Craig film is good. As a Bond fan, I was dissapointed. Bits and pieces were good, especially the opening sequence, but as I watched the film I thought of other films like the Dalton ones that were much better and more engaging. I did enjoy the cinematography, though- lots of wide angle shots.

Do NOT see a movie in 2K IMAX. Mine was sadly a former 15/70 screen. I don't know if they even have their film projector anymore. That was basically like watching a big LCD TV. No fine details even in closeups, colors were muted, and black levels were poor. To be honest, save for some dark scenes I couldn't even see film grain. No way to tell it was ever shot on film for most of it, even during snow sequences. It looked like a 1080p YouTube video during closeups. Quite disappointing.

I saw it on a regular screen in 2K and looks like I had a similar experience. Pixels clearly visible on subtitles and other text. Whites and flesh tones very yellow just like the TV trailers.

[Spike M.]

Originally Posted by singhcr

I just got back from it.

My reactions below:

[Show spoiler]The movie overall was very average. There wasn't much of a plot, but rather a series of action sequences. Blofeld wasn't set up very well as an adversary, and the Bond girl wasn't convincing either. I thought the theme was average too. It seems every other Craig film is good. As a Bond fan, I was dissapointed. Bits and pieces were good, especially the opening sequence, but as I watched the film I thought of other films like the Dalton ones that were much better and more engaging. I did enjoy the cinematography, though- lots of wide angle shots.

Do NOT see a movie in 2K IMAX. Mine was sadly a former 15/70 screen. I don't know if they even have their film projector anymore. That was basically like watching a big LCD TV. No fine details even in closeups, colors were muted, and black levels were poor. To be honest, save for some dark scenes I couldn't even see film grain. No way to tell it was ever shot on film for most of it, even during snow sequences. It looked like a 1080p YouTube video during closeups. Quite disappointing.

Oddly, despite the usual 2K IMAX offenders such as the screen door effect, I thought it was one of the best looking IMAX DCP's I'd seen in a long while. Detail and focus was remarkable; usually I expect such clarity to muddled by sharpness enhancing. Perhaps Mendes adopted the "keep your hands off the DMR button" philosophy he learned from Deakins on Skyfall. But yeah, I think it was night and day image quality compared to the likes of everything Marvel and M:I5, for example.

What wasn't so hot was the sound mixing. Certain moments of dialogue were uncomfortably and unnaturally low, whereas the very next scene it'd be painfully loud. Kudos to the projectionist for finding a volume setting that seemed to try and find as best a middle ground as could be found. A friend of mine in Chicago reported that same issue at Navy Pier, except the volume was set seemingly lower and some of the dialogue was literally inaudible.