4K Movies Releases

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Firstly congratulations.
Secondly I am fed up.

At least you didn’t have to listen to Ray - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...ay#post9935564 call the match.

[Kris Deering]

So I have the opportunity to see this in 15/70 IMAX here in Seattle but after a short talk with my normal movie cohorts we may skip it and go somewhere else. The last movie we saw in 15/70 IMAX was The Dark Knight Rises and all of us were in firm agreement that the contrast (or black levels) were extremely poor. This gave the image a washed out look in any of the darker moments. Since Interstellar looks to be a space movie I imagine there is a lot of content that will be on the darker side and I don't know if I will be blown away enough by the native IMAX footage to forgive the horrible contrast performance again. I can't even imagine seeing this in 35mm as the last few 35mm presentations I went to were horrible (I think these only look good in spiffy Hollywood area theaters that get good prints and have well kept projectors). So it will probably be 4K digital for us. If I like the movie enough I may go see it in 15/70 if I have some time just to see how it compares though. I'm actually surprised that the Cinerama in Seattle isn't showing it in 70mm. I saw The Master there in 70mm opening weekend and it looked fantastic aside from some obvious stuttering in pans. But they are undergoing some huge renovation and I know they are installing a new 4K laser projector so it is unclear when they are going to be open for business again and what they'll be showing at that time.

[Geoff D]

I think that modern digital cinema projectors aren't generally all that great with blacks either, though I didn't notice any particular problems with TDKR on 15/70 at the BFI IMAX in London.

It's ironic really, people worship at the altar of self-emissive display technology because of the ultra-black blacks, but most cinema screenings - which is the paradigm that we're trying to emulate in this hobby, no? - don't even match up to that sort of performance.

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

At least you didn’t have to listen to Ray - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...ay#post9935564 call the match.

His voice reminds me of legendary darts commentator Sid Waddell. RIP.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Kris Deering

I think these only look good in spiffy Hollywood area theaters that get good prints and have well kept projectors...

We’ve got fancy organs too …

El Capitan organ plays Disney songs at 2014 TCM Film Festival - YouTube

El Capitan organ plays Disney songs at 2014 TCM Film Festival - YouTube

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Kris Deering

But they are undergoing some huge renovation and I know they are installing a new 4K laser projector

which?, the Christie 3P as opposed to the futuristic 6P…

CinemaCon 21 - Christie 6P Laser Projector - George Scheckel - YouTube

CinemaCon 21 - Christie 6P Laser Projector - George Scheckel - YouTube

[Penton-Man]

No comment from Sap on the Interstellar theatrical format of choice thing?
Okay then Sap , read ‘em and weep….http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/...technologyNews

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

It's ironic really, people worship at the altar of self-emissive display technology because of the ultra-black blacks...

True connoisseurs of the color black marry and spend their lives living with women (Asians, Latinas, etc.) possessing the hair to prove it, rather than chasing that color on an inanimate screen.

Originally Posted by Geoff D

His voice reminds me of legendary darts commentator Sid Waddell. RIP.

Apparently, Ray likes ice cream too…
http://www.sbnation.com/soccer/2014/...een-commercial

[Penton-Man]

SMPTE members receive email reminders but, for the sake of those social media writer/reporter types who enjoy spending their time reporting rather than doing (e.g. experimenting, creating, producing) things as practitioners, heads-up….

https://www.smpte.org/webcasts/display-interfaces

[dobyblue]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

But putting aside the endless film vs. digital exhibition debate (http://deadline.com/2014/10/alamo-dr...ection-854765/ ) for the sake of my celluloid admiring friends, singhcr, Sap et al., check out the list applicable to your affections and, be there or be square on Nov. 5th….https://interstellar.withgoogle.com/ways-to-see

Penton-Man, which one do you choose if all of them were easy to get to?
I'm heading 1h30m to Toronto on Friday night next week to see it in the closest 15-perf/70mm to me (Niagara Falls has one but they only show Voyage Over The Falls). Seats reserved over a week ago, dead centre about 60% up.

[Kris Deering]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

I think that modern digital cinema projectors aren't generally all that great with blacks either, though I didn't notice any particular problems with TDKR on 15/70 at the BFI IMAX in London.

It's ironic really, people worship at the altar of self-emissive display technology because of the ultra-black blacks, but most cinema screenings - which is the paradigm that we're trying to emulate in this hobby, no? - don't even match up to that sort of performance.


His voice reminds me of legendary darts commentator Sid Waddell. RIP.

I'm certainly not trying to emulate cinema screenings. I'm sure most DOP's and Directors would LOVE to have more contrast than what a DCI projector can provide. And never mind all the other limitations that come with theatrical viewing (ambient light, poor screens, incorrect setup of projector). I would love to have the less compressed digital file, higher color resolution and gamut but they can keep their gray blacks and washed out low APL images. It ALWAYS looks better at home with darker movies.

[saprano]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

No comment from Sap on the Interstellar theatrical format of choice thing?

I'm seeing it here

https://www.amctheatres.com/movie-th...coln-square-13


One of the 3 in NY that still has 70mm projectors.

Okay then Sap , read ‘em and weep….http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/...technologyNews

This is nothing new or surprising. It has been known for months that plasmas were going away. Hey, everyone doesn't know quality when they see it right?


Whatever. The kuro will continue to satisfy me. About to unlock the ISF modes. So i'm good.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by saprano

This is nothing new or surprising. It has been known for months that plasmas were going away.

That was bait to get you involved in the Interstellar topic.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by dobyblue

Penton-Man, which one do you choose if all of them were easy to get to?
I'm heading 1h30m to Toronto on Friday night next week to see it in the closest 15-perf/70mm to me (Niagara Falls has one but they only show Voyage Over The Falls). Seats reserved over a week ago, dead centre about 60% up.

My advice would be to attempt to see Interstellar in as many formats as you can because this represents one of those rare opportunities for cinephiles to view and experience the differences (pluses and minuses) of each type of presentation and then judge for themselves as to which exhibition they feel is *best*…..and to what comparative degree, i.e. *splitting hairs* or *knock your socks off* difference.

The only caveat I would add is that for folks to see the celluloid versions first, or at least, soon, so as to view a fresh print (an opportunity which in itself is quite rare for theatergoers), and also try to pick a theater that has previously demonstrated some fairly recent past expertise with film projection; otherwise, you pays your money and yous take your chances . For the digital cinema version, try to pick an auditorium known to have a 4K projector system installed, and most preferably, one whose management takes the time to remove any 3D lens apparatus.

As we get a little closer to the release date, I’ll post the total file size of the 4K DCP version in order to give folks an idea as to whether or not the encoder was sufficiently generous with the bitrate, like with that of a past DCP arising from film acquisition source, namely, Django Unchained (2012) - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...go#post7546015

[Geoff D]

Bloody hell, that's a chunky file size for Django although it is a long film, at that. Even though Interstellar is a similar length I don't think it'll get as much love, so I'm betting it'll be between 225-250GB. That said, Dark Knight Rises was 302GB so they'd be selling Interstellar short if it was anything less...

[saprano]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

That was bait to get you involved in the Interstellar topic.

Figured you were teasing.

I try to glance at this thread when i can.

[saprano]

Originally Posted by Kris Deering

So I have the opportunity to see this in 15/70 IMAX here in Seattle but after a short talk with my normal movie cohorts we may skip it and go somewhere else. The last movie we saw in 15/70 IMAX was The Dark Knight Rises and all of us were in firm agreement that the contrast (or black levels) were extremely poor. This gave the image a washed out look in any of the darker moments. Since Interstellar looks to be a space movie I imagine there is a lot of content that will be on the darker side and I don't know if I will be blown away enough by the native IMAX footage to forgive the horrible contrast performance again. I can't even imagine seeing this in 35mm as the last few 35mm presentations I went to were horrible (I think these only look good in spiffy Hollywood area theaters that get good prints and have well kept projectors). So it will probably be 4K digital for us. If I like the movie enough I may go see it in 15/70 if I have some time just to see how it compares though. I'm actually surprised that the Cinerama in Seattle isn't showing it in 70mm. I saw The Master there in 70mm opening weekend and it looked fantastic aside from some obvious stuttering in pans. But they are undergoing some huge renovation and I know they are installing a new 4K laser projector so it is unclear when they are going to be open for business again and what they'll be showing at that time.

Funny. The theater i saw TDKR at above had deep blacks. Like really black with no gray washout. Maby the projector wasn't set up correctly or some light was shining on the screen?

Which reminds me.....during the movie one of the right wall lights came on. I don't know which genius did that but for like a half hour the picture was ruined. It seemed nobody was bothered by it except me. Not surprised given the current state of video displays.

Ba dum tssshhh - YouTube

Ba dum tssshhh - YouTube

[Penton-Man]

Iceman, Deci, please fix the forum imagery. All is currently white along with other viewing problems.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Iceman, Deci, please fix the forum imagery. All is currently white along with other viewing problems.

Well, still no joy? Then I’ll copy my next posts and repost them in case they get lost in the forum fix by you developer types. I can do white background.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by saprano

Which reminds me.....during the movie one of the right wall lights came on. I don't know which genius did that but for like a half hour the picture was ruined. It seemed nobody was bothered by it except me. Not surprised given the current state of video displays.

Sap, your problem is, unlike everyone else, you were looking at the wrong screen …

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Kris Deering

So I have the opportunity to see this in 15/70 IMAX here in Seattle but after a short talk with my normal movie cohorts we may skip it and go somewhere else. The last movie we saw in 15/70 IMAX was The Dark Knight Rises and all of us were in firm agreement that the contrast (or black levels) were extremely poor. This gave the image a washed out look in any of the darker moments. Since Interstellar looks to be a space movie I imagine there is a lot of content that will be on the darker side and I don't know if I will be blown away enough by the native IMAX footage to forgive the horrible contrast performance again. I can't even imagine seeing this in 35mm as the last few 35mm presentations I went to were horrible (I think these only look good in spiffy Hollywood area theaters that get good prints and have well kept projectors). So it will probably be 4K digital for us. If I like the movie enough I may go see it in 15/70 if I have some time just to see how it compares though...

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