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Old 09-14-2018, 06:39 PM   #97921
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With his current playoff record he will never be the greatest ever. Needs to win at least one more.
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He will never be the greatest ever even with another Superbowl win that title is on Brady followed by Montana
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Purely in terms of talent I really do think Rodgers might be GOAT. But obviously Brady will always have the jewelry.
I don't think he is GOAT. A week or two back Batman (I think) said he was and had a pretty odd looking top 5 QB list which he had Rodgers as #1
I do like Rodgers but GOAT, nope. Needs more rings for that argument
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Old 09-14-2018, 07:10 PM   #97922
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From a pure passing standpoint, Rodgers is as fluid as can be. But yes, Brady just gets it done and has the hardware to prove it.

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Old 09-14-2018, 07:40 PM   #97923
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I wonder how many rings Rodgers would have if he had the best coach in NFL history his whole career? We will never know, but worth pondering.
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Old 09-14-2018, 10:27 PM   #97924
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Ring counting is purely low hanging fruit when it comes to assessing one position. Using that logic, Eli is better than Brees, Aikman is the 4th best of all time, Dilfer is better than Marino or Fouts. There is way, WAY too much luck and outside influences in a handful of NFL playoff games to simply say one QB is better than another “because rings!”
I think looking at the careers of Peyton Manning and Rodgers are the perfect illustrations of that.
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Old 09-14-2018, 10:28 PM   #97925
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Ring counting is purely low hanging fruit when it comes to assessing one position. Using that logic, Eli is better than Brees, Aikman is the 4th best of all time, Dilfer is better than Marino or Fouts. There is way, WAY too much luck and outside influences in a handful of NFL playoff games to simply say one QB is better than another “because rings!”
I think looking at the careers of Peyton Manning and Rodgers are the perfect illustrations of that.
The flip side of that argument is that because there's "WAY too much luck and outside influences in a handful of NFL playoff games," those who can win rings repeatedly must be doing something right.
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Old 09-14-2018, 10:30 PM   #97926
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The flip side of that argument is that because there's "WAY too much luck and outside influences in a handful of NFL playoff games," those who can win rings repeatedly must be doing something right.
Yeah I suppose you could. At the same time, there are so few playoff games in a career that the good or bad run of luck may simply never regress to the mean before a player retires.

In my mind, Brady’s longevity and ability to play at a high level for this long is more impressive than the 5 titles.

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Old 09-15-2018, 03:25 AM   #97927
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Mychal Kendricks is literally going to prison next year for insider trading and the league is going to let him play out the season? SMH 😒
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Old 09-15-2018, 11:59 AM   #97928
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Joe Mixon having knee surgery today, out two weeks.
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Old 09-15-2018, 05:52 PM   #97929
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Old 09-15-2018, 06:22 PM   #97930
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Joe Mixon having knee surgery today, out two weeks.
too bad not for life
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Old 09-15-2018, 06:22 PM   #97931
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Mychal Kendricks is literally going to prison next year for insider trading and the league is going to let him play out the season? SMH 😒
Agreed.
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Old 09-15-2018, 06:23 PM   #97932
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Agreed.
Roger Baddell getting it done as usual.
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Old 09-15-2018, 11:42 PM   #97933
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Josh Gordon has another suspension looming?
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Old 09-16-2018, 12:06 AM   #97934
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Well, it sucks that Gordon hasn't be able pull himself together. He could have been a real threat for the Browns offense this year. It sad see a talented player be let go, but he just hasn't been able to keep himself together.

I guess this means that Cleveland will now try to get Dez, since they're cutting Gordon on Monday, to get some weapons for Tyrod now.
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Old 09-16-2018, 12:08 AM   #97935
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Well, it sucks that Gordon getting himself together. He could have been a real threat for the Browns to have. It sad see a talented player be let go, but he just hasn't been able to keep himself together.

I guess this means that Cleveland will now try to get Dez, since they're cutting Gordon on Monday, to get some weapons for Tyrod now.
Well, maybe someone bites on a trade between now and Monday?
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Old 09-16-2018, 12:17 AM   #97936
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Well, maybe someone bites on a trade between now and Monday?
I doubt it. They already said that they will release him on Monday. I guess it depends on what why he was late and 'not himself' when he showed up at the facility today. If he is getting a suspension, I don't know which team would take a chance on him with that uncertainty. Perhaps Seattle, maybe.
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Piece of shit.
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I doubt it. They already said that they will release him on Monday. I guess it depends on what why he was late and 'not himself' when he showed up at the facility today. If he is getting a suspension, I don't know which team would take a chance on him with that uncertainty. Perhaps Seattle, maybe.
The expectation from the insiders is that he will be traded.
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Old 09-16-2018, 02:25 AM   #97939
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Piece of shit.
Dude had chance after chance from multiple regimes, and he pissed them all away. Good riddance.
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Let's go Buffalo!

Bills, baby, Bills!

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