Ghostbusters 4K UHD (1984)

[Telemachus]

tfw everyone have 800 nit OLEDs

[gameguru]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

You know that HDR10 does 10,000 nits just fine, right?

While I appreciate the tech specs it didn't really answer the question What say you Geoff, is it really worth the extra dough even though I don't have a DV screen? From what I've gathered there's no easy import solution either.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by gameguru

While I appreciate the tech specs it didn't really answer the question What say you Geoff, is it really worth the extra dough even though I don't have a DV screen? From what I've gathered there's no easy import solution either.

Yeah, but you must know by now that I must correct the incorrect. I think the improved compression is worth it on the GB's BUT the old discs weren't terribad in that respect either. With the greatest of respect you don't strike me as someone who notices an awful lot of this stuff we're babbling about so no, I wouldn't chase down the redone discs if I were you.

[GaragePoet]

the director wanted Dolby Vision

[gameguru]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Yeah, but you must know by now that I must correct the incorrect. I think the improved compression is worth it on the GB's BUT the old discs weren't terribad in that respect either. With the greatest of respect you don't strike me as someone who notices an awful lot of this stuff we're babbling about so no, I wouldn't chase down the redone discs if I were you.

While it is true I'm more forgiving of bad discs I still strive for the best, within reason of course. I more than likely will buy them anyways because I love these movies, but I figured I'd get an opinion here first. Afterall, I could just buy the old discs and then sell them later.

[FilmFreakosaurus]

Originally Posted by C.C. 95

HDR10 - Static Metadata
• 4,000 nits peak brightness
• Same brightness and tone mapping for the entirety of the content
• 10-bit color depth
• 1 Billion Colors

DOLBY VISION - Dynamic Metadata
• 10,000 nits peak brightness
• Adjusts the brightness and tone mapping per scene
• 12-bit color depth
• 68 Billion Colors

12 bit per pixel color depth only applies to FEL (extension video and dynamic grading metadata) Dolby Vision on disc. Sony discs are normally MEL (metadata only) Dolby Vision, so only 10 bit.

[C.C. 95]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

You know that HDR10 does 10,000 nits just fine, right?

It does... true. except nobody masters HDR10 beyond 4000 nits.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by C.C. 95

It does... true. except nobody masters HDR10 beyond 4000 nits.

Apart from Sony, Warners, small players like that.

[thetano]

Originally Posted by Hedrox

The upcoming 4-Film set from France seems to come with the DV discs of the first two, if Amazon's description is to be believed. The catch is that it only has the 4Ks.

Seems like an easy choice to get France 4x films vs Japan 3x films.

[Markgway]

Originally Posted by thetano

Seems like an easy choice to get France 4x films vs Japan 3x films.

Unless like me you only want two of those films.

[C.C. 95]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Apart from Sony, Warners, small players like that.

Give me an example. Most HDR10 layers on UHDs are around 1000 nits

[teddyballgame]

Originally Posted by C.C. 95

Give me an example. Most HDR10 layers on UHDs are around 1000 nits

1000 is very common yes but there are still some oddly wild ones like Fury Road

I think Inferno might be another, but Geoff might have better examples

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by C.C. 95

Give me an example. Most HDR10 layers on UHDs are around 1000 nits

The movie that this very thread is about. The MaxCLL of 9000-odd nits may be exaggerating but it has regular peaks well over 1000 nits, as do most Sony Light Cannon™️ titles. Bad Boys II has regular dips over 4000 nits and even goes as high as 8000 nits. Starship Troopers and Strangelove both peak over 2000 nits. Several of the Harry Potter movies have peaks well over 2000 nits, there's a moment in Chamber of Secrets that hits 7500 nits!

So, yeah. Don't believe everything that bullet points pulled from some random webshite will tell you (hell, even Dobly's own site maintains the myth that 'standard HDR' can't do more than 1000 nits. And not to whatabout the issue, but I'd love to see some examples of the DV version of a movie hitting 10000 nits while the HDR10 is capped to 4000. Won't get many because there is no such nit limit on HDR10 as a technology, they both use the same EOTF and the same grading software and monitoring hardware, DV is just metadata added after it's been graded at source.

[Hedrox]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

The movie that this very thread is about. The MaxCLL of 9000-odd nits may be exaggerating but it has regular peaks well over 1000 nits, as do most Sony Light Cannon™️ titles. Bad Boys II has regular dips over 4000 nits and even goes as high as 8000 nits. Starship Troopers and Strangelove both peak over 2000 nits. So, yeah. Don't believe everything that bullet points pulled from some random webshite will tell you. And not to whatabout the issue, but I'd love to see some examples of DV alone hitting 10000 nits.

Fury Road hits 10 000 nits quite regularly.

[Geoff D]

Yes, teddy just mentioned that one. Just trying to bust (heh) some myths here.

[Hedrox]

Ewps, I think the original BvS and Pacific Rim are also incredibly bright, don't think they quite hit 10k, but easily pass 1000. Also Black Hawk Down, that may be the king of Light Cannon grades.

[Geoff D]

Indeed. As I said, it's mainly Warners and Sony who practice Light Cannonry.

[teddyballgame]

Originally Posted by Hedrox

Ewps, I think the original BvS and Pacific Rim are also incredibly bright, don't think they quite hit 10k, but easily pass 1000. Also Black Hawk Down, that may be the king of Light Cannon grades.

BHD is one of my favorite discs on the format. Just stunning

You mentioning BvS reminded me that Dawn of the Dead (2004) is another hot one. Snyder likes his HDR to be zesty

[thetano]

Originally Posted by Markgway

Unless like me you only want two of those films.

I’m just happy there is a sub $300 option for the first 2 😜

[Hedrox]

Originally Posted by teddyballgame

BHD is one of my favorite discs on the format. Just stunning

You mentioning BvS reminded me that Dawn of the Dead (2004) is another hot one. Snyder likes his HDR to be zesty

I don't think it's Snyder, just how WB were encoding (if that's the correct term) them at the time. Snyder famously "rejected" the first release of BvS and asked WB for a re-do.
To this day it's the only 4K title they've remastered.