4K Movies Releases

[SpoonySpoonerson]

May sound like a newb question so I didn't want to make a post for it, this seemed like a good place (mods?)

Do you think we'll get a 4kBD release of the LOTR/Hobbit movies soon? I wouldn't normally expect, but it looks like Warner Brothers is pretty happy to ***** out their popular franchises for a 4K double dip, such as the Nolan movies and Harry Potter just this year. With that in mind, is it not only a matter of time until we get to see the LOTR movies in glorious HDR?

[Pieter V]

Originally Posted by Pieter V

The Greatest Showman (2017) - 4K DCP
https://www.sony.co.uk/pro/article/d...t-showman-2017

Wrong info by Sony. 2K DCP.

[McSteebler]

Originally Posted by SpoonySpoonerson

May sound like a newb question so I didn't want to make a post for it, this seemed like a good place (mods?)

Do you think we'll get a 4kBD release of the LOTR/Hobbit movies soon? I wouldn't normally expect, but it looks like Warner Brothers is pretty happy to ***** out their popular franchises for a 4K double dip, such as the Nolan movies and Harry Potter just this year. With that in mind, is it not only a matter of time until we get to see the LOTR movies in glorious HDR?

I think that we will definitely be seeing 4k releases of the Hobbit considering it was shot digitally. I'm hesitant that it's worth the upgrade for Lord of the Rings considering that it was shot on 35mm. Not sure if a 4k transfer would really outshine the already stellar 2k release. HDR on both would be nice though.

[FilmFreakosaurus]

Originally Posted by McSteebler

I think that we will definitely be seeing 4k releases of the Hobbit considering it was shot digitally. I'm hesitant that it's worth the upgrade for Lord of the Rings considering that it was shot on 35mm. Not sure if a 4k transfer would really outshine the already stellar 2k release. HDR on both would be nice though.

If WB does anything, they'll probably upscale the current 2k DI's, unless they allow Peter Jackson to touch up some of the SFX as he has wanted to do for some time as well as replace Ian Holm in the Fellowship flashback with Martin Freeman.

Maybe, just maybe remix LOTR to Dolby Atmos too in order to match them with The Hobbit.

[Geoff D]

He may yet touch up some VFX but they'll still be upscales from 2K. Same goes for LOTR, just because it was shot on 35mm doesn't mean it was finished on 35mm. That's not to say that they couldn't rebuild either set of shows from scratch e.g. locating, scanning, cleaning, grading & editing the 35mm footage on LOTR, and doing the necessary for the 5K RED footage on the Hobbitses, along with whatever upscales/rebuilds of the VFX are deemed necessary, but this is a process that would take years to complete and would cost many millions of dollars to do so.

Considering that Warners baulked at the prospect of rebuilding just the extra features (Michael Pellerin wanted to restructure them to match the 'a day in the life...' style of the Hobbit EE extras) what makes people think that they'd pay to properly uprez the movies? These will be 2K upscales all round, and if King Kong is any indication of how odd some of that early DI fudgery looks on UHD (along with that whacked-out HDR grade) then I'm kinda fearful for how LOTR will ultimately turn out. Hobbit not so much because they're much more modern.

[puddy77]

It’s not a 4k movie, but will likely get an eventual home 4k release; Guillermo del Toro personally signed off on the home HDR10 grade of The Shape of Water.

https://www.bydeluxe.com/en/get-to-k...eluxe-toronto/

[TheSweetieMan]

'The Shape of Water' in 4K/HDR?

Yaaaaaassss.

[gkolb]

Originally Posted by puddy77

It’s not a 4k movie, but will likely get an eventual home 4k release; Guillermo del Toro personally signed off on the home HDR10 grade of The Shape of Water.

https://www.bydeluxe.com/en/get-to-k...eluxe-toronto/

Just gotta ask, streaming or disc? cause there's way too much stuff on streaming that has yet to see a physical disc light of day.

[Dubstar]

Originally Posted by TheSweetieMan

'The Shape of Water' in 4K/HDR?

Yaaaaaassss.

i was hoping for 7.1 surround sound - but no such luck

[puddy77]

Originally Posted by gkolb

Just gotta ask, streaming or disc? cause there's way too much stuff on streaming that has yet to see a physical disc light of day.

Hopefully both. But I have no idea if they'll release this on disc. I just know they made the HDR grade. With all the awards buzz, I'd be willing to bet this makes it to UBD.

[C.C. 95]

Originally Posted by McSteebler

I think that we will definitely be seeing 4k releases of the Hobbit considering it was shot digitally. I'm hesitant that it's worth the upgrade for Lord of the Rings considering that it was shot on 35mm. Not sure if a 4k transfer would really outshine the already stellar 2k release. HDR on both would be nice though.

35mm film has ALWAYS had higher resolution that HD video. (6K)
It would definitely benefit if the mastering tech knows what he is doing.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by C.C. 95

35mm film has ALWAYS had higher resolution that HD video. (6K)
It would definitely benefit if the mastering tech knows what he is doing.

Hobbit was shot 5K

[Pieter V]

Disobedience (2017)

The trio of films were shot at 6K to maximise dynamic range with Victoria And Abdul and Final Portrait down-rezzed to 2K for cinema. Disobedience was treated with a 4K finish.

https://britishcinematographer.co.uk...-disobedience/

[Pieter V]

Wonder Wheel (2017) - 4K DCP

[C.C. 95]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Hobbit was shot 5K

Yes. 5K digital is LESS than 6K 35mm film.

[Geoff D]

You said "HD video". HD is <2K. But if you think you're getting 6K for every frame on 35mm (especially when the people who spout those claims don't even transfer from the negative) then you're mistaken.

[Pieter V]

Darkest Hour (2017) 4K DCP

The finishing process
comprised a number of different delivery
items, including a conventional 2K DCP
release graded on a Christie CP2220 2K
projector at a screen brightness of 14
footlamberts, as well as 4K Dolby Vision
HDR, and 4K HDR10 releases that
targeted a 1,000-nit brightness level on a
Sony BVM-X300 monitor.

[FilmFreakosaurus]

Originally Posted by Pieter V

Darkest Hour (2017) 4K DCP

They'll probably f up and use the 2k file for the UHD Blu-ray master.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

The Post, 4K DI

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[LordoftheRings]

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