Superman Returns (2006)

[baheidstu]

Originally Posted by Ray_Rogers

Is this thread about Superman Returns or Margot Kidder?

Do you have something new and fresh you'd like to discuss about Superman Returns?

[Batmon77]

Originally Posted by CZAR

That doesnt matter. She still starred in several films after Superman. I never said I owned any of them. You said her career was dead after Superman which is far from the truth. Got Em!!

Name them without Google.

[Filmmaker]

Originally Posted by Ray_Rogers

Is this thread about Superman Returns or Margot Kidder?

Apparently neither. It seems to be about assessments of my moral character, or lack thereof, LOL.

[CZAR]

Originally Posted by Batmon77

Name them without Google.

Huh? Dude thats irrelevant to your statement. When someones career is dead, that means its dead and they arent doin anymore films. She did like 20 films since Superman lol. Im not gonna play your game because you made a inaccurate statement. Nice try though. Got Em!!

[IndyMLVC]

Originally Posted by CZAR

Huh? Dude thats irrelevant to your statement. When someones career is dead, that means its dead and they arent doin anymore films. She did like 20 films since Superman lol. Im not gonna play your game because you made a inaccurate statement. Nice try though. Got Em!!

20? It's far more than that, not counting TV movies and shows. To most people, your career is "dead" if you're not following up Superman with something of the same caliber. These are the same people that said that Carrie and Mark were losers because they weren't Harrison. Yet they failed to notice that both of them have made their mark in their own ways: her as a writer and him as a VO artist. Sure, neither one of them was Indiana Jones but there are various ways to attain success. And it's quite possible that not every actor wants nor needs to be Indiana Jones to be considered successful.

Hell, 99% of working actors don't even get ONE Superman, nevermind 4 of them. And if they can plus continue to work in TV and movies for the rest of their lives, I'd certainly consider that successful.

[Batman1980]

Superman Jr, what was the deal with that kid, am I right?

[Batmon77]

Originally Posted by IndyMLVC

20? It's far more than that, not counting TV movies and shows. To most people, your career is "dead" if you're not following up Superman with something of the same caliber. These are the same people that said that Carrie and Mark were losers because they weren't Harrison. Yet they failed to notice that both of them have made their mark in their own ways: her as a writer and him as a VO artist. Sure, neither one of them was Indiana Jones but there are various ways to attain success. And it's quite possible that not every actor wants nor needs to be Indiana Jones to be considered successful.

Hell, 99% of working actors don't even get ONE Superman, nevermind 4 of them. And if they can plus continue to work in TV and movies for the rest of their lives, I'd certainly consider that successful.

You dudes are lying to yourselves.

You werent checking for her as an actress after Superman. You never were supporting her work afterwards. You can go on imbd all u want to support your fake fandom to prove she was treading water in the industry with minuscule critical acclaim.

[AaronY]

I found kidder very attractive in those films. Her perky personality really did it for me and she's not bad looking. Might be an elbowstoopointy/10 internet scenario here

[Batmon77]

Originally Posted by Batman1980

Superman Jr, what was the deal with that kid, am I right?

Iron Man 3 and Logan.

[AaronY]

Originally Posted by Batmon77

Adams is my favorite Lane, yet looks nothing like classic brunette Lois.

Wow, Adams best ever. don't even know why I took your opinions seriously in the first place lol

[Batmon77]

Originally Posted by AaronY

Wow, Adams best ever. don't even know why I took your opinions seriously in the first place lol

My fav vs best ever?

Jordan isnt my favorite NBA player ever.

U get it?

[GeoffOliver]

Margot Kidder is my 70s crush, and I've always thought she was incredibly beautiful in her own unique way. She did basically become the Canadian version of Carrie Fisher though.

If you include voice acting though, Dana Delaney is my favorite. She could've been a good live action Lois too.

[David McMinn]

I watched "The Superman Anthology" blu-ray this weekend with a twist. I watched Superman: The Movie extended cut, Superman II: The Richard Donner cut along with Superman III, Superman IV, and Superman Returns. And it always strikes me the Lois Lane in Returns looks younger than Lois Lane in the Christopher Reeve's films. I know they should be about the same age and have the same work experience. I was wondering is it me are the films? I really liked Returns as it pays tribute to the Reeves films and even "The Adventures Of Superman", "Great Caesars Ghost!"

[StingingVelvet]

Originally Posted by IndyMLVC

This *REALLY* doesn't make sense. Considering that 1/2 were essentially shot together, that point is moot. She's barely in 3 (due to her badmouthing the producers) so that really only leaves IV for her to look "too old and substance happy." And, btw, that was 9 years after the original. Let's see how different you look between 30 and 40.

Man, even defending her I get this kind of rage! I just meant she looked like she smoked too many cigarettes later on, has that tighter and more quickly aged face in the sequels to me. I still think she's pretty and very much agree on the "stay classy guys" post above.

[baheidstu]

Originally Posted by IndyMLVC

This *REALLY* doesn't make sense. Considering that 1/2 were essentially shot together, that point is moot. She's barely in 3 (due to her badmouthing the producers) so that really only leaves IV for her to look "too old and substance happy." And, btw, that was 9 years after the original. Let's see how different you look between 30 and 40.

A large chunk of Superman II was re-shot by Richard Lester including most of the Niagara Falls stuff and the Paris stuff, you can even notice that she looks different at various points in the film.

Originally Posted by Batmon77

You dudes are lying to yourselves.

You werent checking for her as an actress after Superman. You never were supporting her work afterwards. You can go on imbd all u want to support your fake fandom to prove she was treading water in the industry with minuscule critical acclaim.

Now you're being childish and arguing points that weren't even made. She's done a lot of character work post Superman which is more than a lot of actresses in their late sixties. And yes I had to look it up on IMDB, what does that prove? Nobody has to proclaim themselves a Margot Kidder fan to contend that her career isn't dead.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by StingingVelvet

Man, even defending her I get this kind of rage! I just meant she looked like she smoked too many cigarettes later on, has that tighter and more quickly aged face in the sequels to me. I still think she's pretty and very much agree on the "stay classy guys" post above.

As said above, it can CLEARLY be noticed when they cut in the Lester stuff compared to what was shot originally, she looks so gaunt and angular in the reshot material it's almost kinda scary so you're not wrong to refer to her appearance changing in that way. It's IndyMLVC who needs to take another look at Superman II, methinks.

Me, I thought she was sexy as all get out in Superman 1. Not classically pretty but one hell of a brassy dame.

[Batmon77]

Originally Posted by baheidstu

A large chunk of Superman II was re-shot by Richard Lester including most of the Niagara Falls stuff and the Paris stuff, you can even notice that she looks different at various points in the film.



Now you're being childish and arguing points that weren't even made. She's done a lot of character work post Superman which is more than a lot of actresses in their late sixties. And yes I had to look it up on IMDB, what does that prove? Nobody has to proclaim themselves a Margot Kidder fan to contend that her career isn't dead.

You didnt watch those films so her career was nonexistent to you.

[Batmon77]

Originally Posted by GeoffOliver

Margot Kidder is my 70s crush, and I've always thought she was incredibly beautiful in her own unique way. She did basically become the Canadian version of Carrie Fisher though.

If you include voice acting though, Dana Delaney is my favorite. She could've been a good live action Lois too.

Whats Kidder's equivalent to Blues Brothers?

[baheidstu]

Originally Posted by Batmon77

Whats Kidder's equivalent to Blues Brothers?

Give it a rest. Know when to quit when you're behind.

[GeoffOliver]

I was mostly referring to her very public struggle with bipolar disorder, how she's aged, and her personality. I've never heard of Margot being on hard drugs though, except maybe pot.

Since Blues Brothers was Carrie's second most famous role, Margot's was probably The Amityville Horror. Both actresses were mostly famous for one role from the late 70s (Carrie for Princess Leia, Margot for Lois Lane), and there's nothing wrong with that. I don't know why you're going out of your way to hate Margot so much. She's pretty harmless, especially now that she's pushing 70.

Margot does have an Emmy though BTW, winning it just in 2014.